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Old Jun 30, 2018, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by holocker
What would be the latest that you can book to stay in one of the new cat 8 hotels at the Cat 7 rate? Has Marriott given a definite date when the new Cat 8 will come into effect?
Through the end of the calendar on the last day before the new system goes into effect. If that date is August 1, you should be able to book for mid-July of 2019 on July 31, 2018. If you book today, you will be able to book a room that checks out as late as June 16, 2019.

None of us know when the last day will be to book at the old rates, but you should be safe through July 31, given the announced August start. This does not, however, mean that you will find awards availability at your chosen hotel.

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Old Jun 30, 2018, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by aaupgrade
I haven't read this morning's posts so am not sure if this has been shared yet, if so my apologies if it has. Huge Travel Package devaluation and only 50K and 100K options. Using peak redemption amounts, the points to miles is no longer 1 to 1, but 1.5 points to 1 mile. See attachment.


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Old Jul 1, 2018, 1:41 pm
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has Marriott said anything about when they are starting the Category 8?
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Old Jul 1, 2018, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by holocker
has Marriott said anything about when they are starting the Category 8?
From the release, a footnote:
An eighth category will be added in early 2019. Until then, Category 8 hotels will be available at Category 7 pricing.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 6:31 am
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Not sure if this has been answered before but for Marriott Chase credit card holders who have an annual 1 night cat 1-5 hotel certificate, once the conversion occurs in August, do we know how many points will these (category 1-5) certs convert to? I didn't see it specified on the Marriott website.


Members may book a redemption reservation with an existing Free Night Certificate under the current terms up until August 2018, even if the arrival date is after August 2018. Starting in August, any outstanding Certificates will be updated from Category-based to points-based values in the new combined redemption chart and may be used for stays at Rewards or SPG hotels up to the points value displayed on your updated Certificate. For example, you will be able to apply a Marriott Rewards Free Night Certificate to an SPG stay, or an SPG Free Night Award to a Marriott Rewards stay. Ritz-Carlton Rewards Free Night Certificates can also be applied to Marriott Rewards and SPG hotels.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 7:42 am
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 11:40 am
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Members may book a redemption reservation with an existing Free Night Certificate under the current terms up until August 2018, even if the arrival date is after August 2018. Starting in August, any outstanding Certificates will be updated from Category-based to points-based values in the new combined redemption chart and may be used for stays at Rewards or SPG hotels up to the points value displayed on your updated Certificate. For example, you will be able to apply a Marriott Rewards Free Night Certificate to an SPG stay, or an SPG Free Night Award to a Marriott Rewards stay. Ritz-Carlton Rewards Free Night Certificates can also be applied to Marriott Rewards and SPG hotels

I was wondering if this will also apply to outstanding certificates that were bought as part of travel packages?
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 11:54 am
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This is really going to be a big kick in the pants once we find out just how widespread the 'peak' rates are.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
This is really going to be a big kick in the pants once we find out just how widespread the 'peak' rates are.
My bet is more widespread than off-peak.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by rylan
This is really going to be a big kick in the pants once we find out just how widespread the 'peak' rates are.
My bet is that it won’t be nearly as bad as everyone fears and not particularly different than the current peak/off-peak award rates through SPG.

Just like every other major fear that people have had for this new Marriott program that yet again turns out to be nothing more than typical fearmongering.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by lexdevil
Though 2 Marriott points per dollar of spend is a poor return compared to earnings on other cards. A 2% cash back card would be better. I only put Marriott spend on my Marriott card.
For the most part, yes. I've seen some people get pretty incredible value for points through Marriott, however. YMMV.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
My bet is more widespread than off-peak.
If you are suggesting that peak will be 50.01% / 183 days or greater, I disagree and would take that bet any day
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 4:05 pm
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Originally Posted by hudsonlaluna
Not sure if this has been answered before but for Marriott Chase credit card holders who have an annual 1 night cat 1-5 hotel certificate, once the conversion occurs in August, do we know how many points will these (category 1-5) certs convert to? I didn't see it specified on the Marriott website.


Members may book a redemption reservation with an existing Free Night Certificate under the current terms up until August 2018, even if the arrival date is after August 2018. Starting in August, any outstanding Certificates will be updated from Category-based to points-based values in the new combined redemption chart and may be used for stays at Rewards or SPG hotels up to the points value displayed on your updated Certificate. For example, you will be able to apply a Marriott Rewards Free Night Certificate to an SPG stay, or an SPG Free Night Award to a Marriott Rewards stay. Ritz-Carlton Rewards Free Night Certificates can also be applied to Marriott Rewards and SPG hotels.
Can use for properties up to and including 35K pts. It's printed somewhere.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
If you are suggesting that peak will be 50.01% / 183 days or greater, I disagree and would take that bet any day
Somewhere deep in one of these threads was a reference to the fact that hotels would be allowed to declare up to half of the year as "peak." If so, that's rather ridiculous: this is an area where SPG would have likely been much more judicious than Marriott. I base this partly on how the two have historically designated "special events" that allow properties to cheat program rules. At SPG, it was minimal. At Marriott, it was not.

Hotels that are in places that are almost always high demand for award users - Hawaii, London, etc. - already account for that by the relative quality of what you get for a given category.

I hope I'm wrong, and Marriott holds hotels to only invoking "peak" on their most high-demand weeks each year. But I'm not optimistic. If the East Podunk Fairfield Inn has six months of "peak" season, then we've all been hit with a not-so-stealthy devaluation.
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Old Jul 2, 2018, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by OU812
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LOL. At least we know someone is reading this BB.

Originally Posted by pinniped
Somewhere deep in one of these threads was a reference to the fact that hotels would be allowed to declare up to half of the year as "peak." If so, that's rather ridiculous: this is an area where SPG would have likely been much more judicious than Marriott. I base this partly on how the two have historically designated "special events" that allow properties to cheat program rules. At SPG, it was minimal. At Marriott, it was not.
My understanding, and I have no written reference to back me up, was that each hotel could only have as many peak nights as off peak nights. 100 peak nights, 100 discount nights. If Marriott is going to allow hotels to have 183 peak nights and no discount nights, then I expect we are about to see even more shenanigans from the franchisees than we already see.
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