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Old Jun 20, 2018, 1:35 am
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Hmm one sentence in the CNN article said if you unplug it the desk is notified and another, a few lines down says you CAN unplug it. All I know, as the Oregon story shows, the stupid thing can turn itself on and report on you. That may have been a rare occurance but I'm a believer in better safe than sorry.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 6:48 am
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Sorry, don't want some device listening in my hotel room, especially when it can be hacked, or inadvertently send messages and audio to somebody because it interpreted voice the wrong way.

How about Marriott fix their piece if crap website first? And bring customer service levels back to what they used to be? Email responsiveness is a joke now... taking weeks for anything.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 7:31 am
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AFAIK Marriott is not running hostels for backpackers. When I pay a Marriott rate for a single hotel room, I don't want to be forced to share with some strange stranger named Alexa, nor do I consider it good customer service to be assigned a room that's already occupied by this Alexa. I want my privacy.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 8:03 am
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Even in moments where I'm not paranoid that Marriott is spying on me, this seems like an expensive way to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

If it's for dinner reservations, I have a smartphone and Opentable for that. (Maybe Marriott needs to put their own restaurants on Opentable and make sure guests are aware of it.)
If it's for music, just deliver that through the TV - either a smart TV with Pandora or by letting me connect my phone. A hotel that wants to provide a little better audio quality can make some decent Bluetooth speakers available. Even ones that cost about what an Echo does usually sound good enough in a small quiet room.
If it's for Amazon, I already have that on my phone.
If I really want something else that Alexa does, I can use my own.

By providing it everywhere, even with the guest needing to take some action to turn it on, I have to think that Marriott is setting itself up for a lot of unintended consequences, a lot of requests for support from people who haven't used Alexa, lots of unfounded accusations of spying when Marriott isn't doing anything malicious, and guests who just end up unhappy with how limited Alexa actually is.

Hilton's approach makes more sense to me. I'll decide how connected I want to be via my own phone. And I'm one who likes Alexa and would probably use it for music in a hotel room if it was easy to do.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by pinniped
Even in moments where I'm not paranoid that Marriott is spying on me, this seems like an expensive way to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

If it's for dinner reservations, I have a smartphone and Opentable for that. (Maybe Marriott needs to put their own restaurants on Opentable and make sure guests are aware of it.)
If it's for music, just deliver that through the TV - either a smart TV with Pandora or by letting me connect my phone. A hotel that wants to provide a little better audio quality can make some decent Bluetooth speakers available. Even ones that cost about what an Echo does usually sound good enough in a small quiet room.
If it's for Amazon, I already have that on my phone.
If I really want something else that Alexa does, I can use my own.

By providing it everywhere, even with the guest needing to take some action to turn it on, I have to think that Marriott is setting itself up for a lot of unintended consequences, a lot of requests for support from people who haven't used Alexa, lots of unfounded accusations of spying when Marriott isn't doing anything malicious, and guests who just end up unhappy with how limited Alexa actually is.

Hilton's approach makes more sense to me. I'll decide how connected I want to be via my own phone. And I'm one who likes Alexa and would probably use it for music in a hotel room if it was easy to do.
Are they going to create a new market for a noise generator that defeats Alexa/Home being able to hear what's going on? Just like the phone companies did with caller ID where you paid to see caller ID and paid to block giving it out! How long until laws are established to restrict these devices in public spaces.?
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
Are they going to create a new market for a noise generator that defeats Alexa/Home being able to hear what's going on? Just like the phone companies did with caller ID where you paid to see caller ID and paid to block giving it out! How long until laws are established to restrict these devices in public spaces.?
I can see the EU potentially restricting/limiting/banning them.

The U.S. will do whatever corporations want, so I suspect they'll become more common as long as firms think they can gain value from the data.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 8:37 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
AFAIK Marriott is not running hostels for backpackers. When I pay a Marriott rate for a single hotel room, I don't want to be forced to share with some strange stranger named Alexa, nor do I consider it good customer service to be assigned a room that's already occupied by this Alexa. I want my privacy.
Oh but don't you know, Marriott is marketing and actively catering to millennials, who share everything they do on social media.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 8:46 am
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Oh but don't you know, Marriott is marketing and actively catering to millennials, who share everything they do on social media.
They should put Alexa at Moxy then. Make sure she's waterproof so she can go right next to the locker-room soap and shampoo dispensers.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 11:03 am
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The always-on nature of Alexa's listening (and occasional surprises in AI) makes it incompatible for when I am working or for when I am having personal time. Sooo.. yeah. Not going to work for me.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Just another thing to do right after checking in - remove Alexa from my room and deliver it to the front desk.
It'll go on my list for sure.

*opens door*
*checks for bugs*
*incapacitates Alexa*

One month later I start seeing pest control products on the internet ads that evade my blockers.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 1:45 pm
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The article said you'd be able to choose rooms without Alexa. What it didn't explain: Will it cost more to get a room with Alexa or a room without Alexa?

Plus how? On the ever-broken Marriott website?
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 1:54 pm
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I am willing to pick up a phone to speak with the desk, concierge, or whatever. I am less happy about having to remove this crap from my room.

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Old Jun 20, 2018, 2:09 pm
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I am having a tough time figuring the payback... Placing the units to begin with will not be cheap (although maybe subsidized by Amazon doing subliminal advertising while we sleep), tracking when they are disabled (just like phone systems will report when you pull the plug thinking the line was cut), replacing units that "disappear" along with the towels and all, and the pure frustration from users that don't know what's happening when room service shows up after leaving the TV on loud while watching a food program! I'm thinking someone is/was trying to make a name for themself.
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 2:16 pm
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I have three Alexas and a Google Home...and I DO NOT want them as standard in my hotel rooms! If I want it, I'll bring it along, and have on occasion.

I'm one of the paid voice models for Google's Assistant and it even gets my requests wrong more often than it should. I can't imagine how it'd react to all of the travelers' voices.

Also, with as screwed up as Marriott's IT department is, these things will likely deliver my pizza to the wrong hotel, in a different country. C'mon, this is the same Marriott IT which can't even get the website to show my name instead of someone else's!
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Old Jun 20, 2018, 2:19 pm
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I'm all in on "let's have more privacy", but for those worried about the world spying on them, let's divide you all into two categories.
  1. Spies, government agents, and others who really should be paranoid that someone is spying on them. Well, Alexa doesn't really change the equation that much for you. You should still be following best practices when staying in hotels.
  2. Everyone else. Let's face it, nobody is interested in what you're saying. Indeed, if you understand how Alexa (and Google Home) actually work, they only listen locally (meaning no data is sent off the device) until the "hot word" ("Alexa" or "OK Google") is said. A more detailed explanation, including background about the "omgz alexa was secretly recording one couple in portland" incident, is available here.
Of course, there is already at least one microphone (that omg could be secretly recording everything you say!!!) in every hotel room you're staying in... in the telephone. Just like Alexa, it doesn't do anything meaningful until you take an action to make it do something.

Do I need Alexa to call room service? Probably not. But voice assistants do make a class of tasks easier ("what's the weather?" "pause netflix" "play npr"), and I'd probably use them for that.
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