FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Marriott | Rewards (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards-427/)
-   -   Will the new Lifetime Gold be worth attaining? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marriott-rewards/1906719-will-new-lifetime-gold-worth-attaining.html)

Tomphot Apr 29, 2018 2:27 pm

Will the new Lifetime Gold be worth attaining?
 
New lifetime gold as I understand it will require 400 nights and at least 7 years as gold. I am at 320 with MR and 42 with SPG - 362 total. I called Marriott and they tell me that I have over 7 years as gold. I pretty much totally stopped staying at Courtyards when they went to the bistro, I hate standing in line to pay for a coffee and the mediocre breakfasts that sometimes take forever. Will it be worth the effort of staying 38 nights for LTG? Will there be any benefits to this? My situation - most of my MR stays occurred 20 some years ago, only 750,000 points on older cheaper stays. I'm Lifetime Diamond with Hilton, enjoy the free breakfasts everywhere, lounge access, some really nice upgrades and bottles of water when checking in. I'm planning on retiring in 2 years so am wondering if there will be any real advantage to having LTG when on vacation stays.

CJKatl Apr 29, 2018 3:20 pm

If you are staying at hotels anyway, why not? I wouldn't pay extra for the nights, but even if you have better options right now we have all learned that things can change quickly. While it might not be worth it today, another chain could get purchased with another loyalty program folded and benefits and qualification parameters might change and suddenly you might wish you had gotten LTG in the new program when it was easily doable. One in the hand is worth two in the bush...

I am kinda in the same boat with DL. I'm not flying for work but am about 10k points short of Million Miler. On the one hand it seems silly to to a MR just for status, but on the other hand once it's done I won't need the amex for free luggage.

Tomphot Apr 29, 2018 3:50 pm


Originally Posted by CJKatl (Post 29696913)
I am kinda in the same boat with DL. I'm not flying for work but am about 10k points short of Million Miler. On the one hand it seems silly to to a MR just for status, but on the other hand once it's done I won't need the amex for free luggage.

With Delta and their changes to AmEx spend and Diamond, I've backed off completely. I could have finished off another 300K MQMs before I retire with the AmEx bonus but at 3MM, you get nothing. No reason to shoot for it.

CPRich Apr 29, 2018 5:02 pm

Worth what?

There is no cost for the status, it comes with stays. What are your assumptions as the alternative? Are you planning to spend an extra $10 per night to stay with MR vs. another option, making it a $4000 investment?

If you're staying anyway then yes, it's worth $0.

There has to be some definition of a "cost" to be "worth" something.

Tomphot Apr 29, 2018 5:47 pm

Sorry, kinda new around here and don't post a lot.


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 29697176)
Worth what?
In my initial post I I outlined what I liked about being a Hilton LTD, is it worth giving these things up to attain LTG in Marriott?

There is no cost for the status, it comes with stays. What are your assumptions as the alternative? Staying at Hilton as LTD Are you planning to spend an extra $10 per night to stay with MR vs. another option, making it a $4000 investment?
NO - I'm asking what I would get in return in the future by giving up my current Hilton Diamond status for 40 nights to get to Marriott LTG

If you're staying anyway then yes, it's worth $0.
Well, I wouldn't staying at Marriott anyway, I would be staying at Hilton and getting the LTD benefits so it wouldn't be a $0 difference.

There has to be some definition of a "cost" to be "worth" something.
Again, I would be giving up Hilton Diamond benefits for 40 stays - what will Marriott LTG be worth?

Why if FT so hard at times???

CJKatl Apr 29, 2018 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by Tomphot (Post 29697287)
Sorry, kinda new around here and don't post a lot.

Why if FT so hard at times???

While I can see where you might read what he wrote as coming across as harsh, having read his posts for years it is likely more a writing style thing and jotting stuff down quickly than meant to be intentionally harsh. The regular posters on this thread tend to be more supportive of and kind to one another than you find on some other FT threads. This isn't our "hometown airline" thread.

BTW, just today I used a DL hat that IIRC you handed to me at a DL DO near Lindberg about eight years ago. My car is a convertible. The had is in the glove box so when someone asks for the roof to go up on a day like today to protect his/her hair the hat comes out.

Tomphot Apr 29, 2018 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by CJKatl (Post 29697338)
BTW, just today I used a DL hat that IIRC you handed to me at a DL DO near Lindberg about eight years ago. My car is a convertible. The had is in the glove box so when someone asks for the roof to go up on a day like today to protect his/her hair the hat comes out.

Fantastic!! I also had an extra 777 model that we gave away, I can't remember who won that.

catocony Apr 29, 2018 6:40 pm

If you're happy with Hilton, and have been staying with them almost exclusively for years, then you're not going to gain much by getting an equal status at Marriott. Are there issues with Hilton properties at some places you travel to?

CJKatl Apr 29, 2018 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by Tomphot (Post 29697350)
Fantastic!! I also had an extra 777 model that we gave away, I can't remember who won that.

IIRC I saw the model 777 and watched someone get it but cannot remember who or what the person looked like.

Tomphot Apr 29, 2018 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by catocony (Post 29697392)
If you're happy with Hilton, and have been staying with them almost exclusively for years, then you're not going to gain much by getting an equal status at Marriott. Are there issues with Hilton properties at some places you travel to?

I have no issues with Hilton properties. What I don't understand or seen (maybe I don't know where to look) is what are Gold benefits going to be 2019 and forward. Free breakfast? Lounge access? Upgrades? Free coffee and water? These are the things going forward in retirement that will mean something. If it's just a bump in points earnings, what good does that do you when your not traveling a lot anymore.

CJKatl Apr 29, 2018 7:13 pm

You triggered a pet peeve... Courtyards no longer have free coffee in the lobby no matter if you are regular, silver, gold, plat or titanium. Most CYs have the coffee maker near the toilet with free generic Maxwell House type grounds but since anyone can go on the Internet and learn how to wash socks or make meth in a hotel coffee maker I won't use it. Most other brands either have coffee in the lobby or CL. If I am reading this correctly, if you become MR LTG in the old program by the end of this year you will be LTG in the new program and have CL access.

MSPeconomist Apr 29, 2018 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 29697176)
Worth what?

There is no cost for the status, it comes with stays. What are your assumptions as the alternative? Are you planning to spend an extra $10 per night to stay with MR vs. another option, making it a $4000 investment?

If you're staying anyway then yes, it's worth $0.

There has to be some definition of a "cost" to be "worth" something.

The OP only needs 38 more Starriott nights to get MR LTG. Even at $10 extra per night, that's only $380, not $4,000. However, rather than a rate difference, for the OP the relevant cost is the implicit value of the foregone Hilton Diamond benefits.

Given that the OP is so close, my suggestion would be to go for it as having LTG will give more options where Hilton doesn't work for some reason. However, there is the question of how quickly to get those 38 remaining nights and how much to try to get the status now, before the rules could change again.

MSPeconomist Apr 29, 2018 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by CJKatl (Post 29697467)
If I am reading this correctly, if you become MR LTG in the old program by the end of this year you will be LTG in the new program and have CL access.

OP seems to be considering the plan to get LTG in the new combined program at 400 nights (where he already has 362) and seven years of Gold (done), not based on the current MR nights and points requirement as those Marriott stays long ago didn't earn many points.

Going to the new "members" Marriott website shows details of Gold benefits under the combined program, but of course the benefits can change.

It doesn't apply to the OP, but achieving LTG in the old MR program (using only Marriott nights and meeting the points requirement) should become LTP in the new combined program......unless SPG elites succeed in getting Marriott to renege on what we've been promised in the April 16th announcement.



nall Apr 29, 2018 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by Tomphot (Post 29696769)
Will it be worth the effort of staying 38 nights for LTG?

Or you could get a Marriott card that gets you 15 nights/year for a couple of years.

Tomphot Apr 29, 2018 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 29697470)
The OP only needs 38 more Starriott nights to get MR LTG. Even at $10 extra per night, that's only $380, not $4,000. However, rather than a rate difference, for the OP the relevant cost is the implicit value of the foregone Hilton Diamond benefits.

Given that the OP is so close, my suggestion would be to go for it as having LTG will give more options where Hilton doesn't work for some reason. However, there is the question of how quickly to get those 38 remaining nights and how much to try to get the status now, before the rules could change again.

thank you - I will not make LTG this year under current rules. I could make it under the new requirement of 400 nights and 7 years as gold starting in 2019 with another 38 nights before retirement. What would I get in return down the road as LTG? I would be giving up free breakfast at HGI equivalent (CY), free bottles of water when checking in and upgrades for 38 nights.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:56 am.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.