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This thread (post #5 from Marriott Rewards Insider) has the official announcement of changes effective later in 2018.
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August
#991
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
Am I correct that beginning in August when I log into my account on the Marriott website and enter a location (let's say Miami, Florida) and a date (let's say Jan 15-21, 2019), I will be offered a choice of not only the usual Marriott family brand hotels, but the Starwood brand hotels in the area as well?
Thanks.
NEWMAN
Thanks.
NEWMAN
Last edited by hhoope01; Jul 9, 2018 at 1:02 pm
#992
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Newton Centre, MA, USA
Programs: DL 2MM Gold, AA Plat Pro; Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium (via SPG), IHG Plat
Posts: 2,192
The details, as they exist now, is ONCE they merge the reservation systems you will be able to choose from all the MR, RC, SPG properties from a single point. However, they have not published a hard date as to when they expect to have that ready to roll out. Should they hit any major issues (maybe existing system coded to handle up to 25 brands), the August date may get pushed out further.
We are all guessing and those that know the facts aren't here to tell us.
We are all guessing and those that know the facts aren't here to tell us.
#993
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
There is also an issue with merging all the discount codes (and potentially having two discount codes stored in your FF account; I know my SPG account keeps track of my corporate discount code). I would not be surprised if this didn't all happen in August or even by the end of the year. As a data point, Hilton still hasn't fully integrated their (reservation) systems; while it looks transparent to the guest, Hilton Hotels and Doubletree Hotels are on different systems and you get radically different confirmation numbers.
#994
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
Praying the SPG SET codes last as long as possible...Marriott's are terrible IME.
#995
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
On top of everything else, the full service properties use Marsha as the reservation system while the lower tier properties have a different reservation system. As a description "MARSHA is a powerful reservation network and demand-management tool. MARSHA powers an industry-leading distribution system and is fully integrated with Marriott’s revenue management, eCommerce, customer loyalty, and property-management systems, as well as the Global Distribution Systems (GDS) used by travel agents and systems of e-Intermediaries."
Integrating points seems easy. Coming up with a name seems even easier. Moving all the SPG hotels off of one platform and making sure it all connects into their property management systems, and all the different GDS systems, and making sure everyone is trained so there is no revenue loss -- that seems complex.
And we know well they are doing with the name
Integrating points seems easy. Coming up with a name seems even easier. Moving all the SPG hotels off of one platform and making sure it all connects into their property management systems, and all the different GDS systems, and making sure everyone is trained so there is no revenue loss -- that seems complex.
And we know well they are doing with the name
#996
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,122
As far as I can tell, it may be done. Here's an excerpt from the T&C of the new Marriott Visa under the section where they describe the 15 elite night bebefit. I've bolded the references to the new program name. They went the boring route. Of course, this could be just a placeholder name...
Each calendar year a maximum of 15 Elite Night credits will be credited to one of your Marriott Loyalty Program accounts operated by Marriott International (i.e., Marriott Rewards®, Starwood Preferred Guest® or The Ritz-Carlton Rewards®) (the “Marriott Loyalty Program”) on or before March 1 in accordance with the Marriott Loyalty Program terms and conditions.
#997
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 101
Mariott gold via SPG match (credit card)? Downgrade =(
Hi all,
From everything I've read, it now seems that anyone who matched to Marriott gold via SPG credit card gold status, will not be being bumped up to Platinum in the new program, even temporaril.
Which sucks, as I have a stay planned for end August/early September that I really wanted to use the benefits for.
So, firstly, please confirm its true?
Secondly, what can i do to somehow quickly get platinum status, as I really would like the benefits associated with the old gold/new platinum
From everything I've read, it now seems that anyone who matched to Marriott gold via SPG credit card gold status, will not be being bumped up to Platinum in the new program, even temporaril.
Which sucks, as I have a stay planned for end August/early September that I really wanted to use the benefits for.
So, firstly, please confirm its true?
Secondly, what can i do to somehow quickly get platinum status, as I really would like the benefits associated with the old gold/new platinum
#998
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
Hi all,
From everything I've read, it now seems that anyone who matched to Marriott gold via SPG credit card gold status, will not be being bumped up to Platinum in the new program, even temporaril.
Which sucks, as I have a stay planned for end August/early September that I really wanted to use the benefits for.
So, firstly, please confirm its true?
Secondly, what can i do to somehow quickly get platinum status, as I really would like the benefits associated with the old gold/new platinum
From everything I've read, it now seems that anyone who matched to Marriott gold via SPG credit card gold status, will not be being bumped up to Platinum in the new program, even temporaril.
Which sucks, as I have a stay planned for end August/early September that I really wanted to use the benefits for.
So, firstly, please confirm its true?
Secondly, what can i do to somehow quickly get platinum status, as I really would like the benefits associated with the old gold/new platinum
In theory, if you can squeeze in a few meetings before the end of the month you could do it but will the time, effort & expense justify the benefits?
James
#999
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 101
Depends on how many night you have/need. Book 10 rooms for 5 nights! Pay for an upgrade to your stay into a room that gives you the benefits you are looking for. Book a single meeting in August for 10 Elite Nights. Max out 15 Elite Nights with credit cards.
In theory, if you can squeeze in a few meetings before the end of the month you could do it but will the time, effort & expense justify the benefits?
James
In theory, if you can squeeze in a few meetings before the end of the month you could do it but will the time, effort & expense justify the benefits?
James
from what ive read, it seems that smoeone with a ritz carlton card who gets gold that way will be bumped up to platinum...true?
#1000
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
James
#1001
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
Hi all,
From everything I've read, it now seems that anyone who matched to Marriott gold via SPG credit card gold status, will not be being bumped up to Platinum in the new program, even temporaril.
Which sucks, as I have a stay planned for end August/early September that I really wanted to use the benefits for.
So, firstly, please confirm its true?
Secondly, what can i do to somehow quickly get platinum status, as I really would like the benefits associated with the old gold/new platinum
From everything I've read, it now seems that anyone who matched to Marriott gold via SPG credit card gold status, will not be being bumped up to Platinum in the new program, even temporaril.
Which sucks, as I have a stay planned for end August/early September that I really wanted to use the benefits for.
So, firstly, please confirm its true?
Secondly, what can i do to somehow quickly get platinum status, as I really would like the benefits associated with the old gold/new platinum
#1002
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 297
A lot of hotels are actually honouring the lounge access until end of Dec if you book way before Aug. when the news didn't come out yet (gold from amex personal plat won't be matched to plat in Aug). Just email or call them and ask nicely, I am sure they will honour it if you are staying there this year.
#1003
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 101
A lot of hotels are actually honouring the lounge access until end of Dec if you book way before Aug. when the news didn't come out yet (gold from amex personal plat won't be matched to plat in Aug). Just email or call them and ask nicely, I am sure they will honour it if you are staying there this year.
i reserved earlier this month...not sure if its long enough in advance, but worth a shot
#1004
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Bern, Swiss-o-land
Programs: M&M (LX/LH) Silver, Marriott Platinum, Accor Silver, AF/KL Silver, Swiss Railway
Posts: 791
Merger of Starpoints to Marriott Points
Does anyone know on which date the Starpoints will be merged into Marriott Points.
I read that the conversion rate will be: 1 Starpoint = 3 Marriott Points.
Thanks
G
I read that the conversion rate will be: 1 Starpoint = 3 Marriott Points.
Thanks
G
#1005
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
In August, each Starpoint in your account will become 3 points in the new program. At that time, earning, redemption, benefits, participating brands, and the value of points will be the same for SPG, Marriott Rewards, and RC Rewards.
Marriott only announced August -- not a specific date in August. August is easily interpreted as August 1, so you see lots of references to August 1 on this forum. But it could be different date.
"Starting in August" (Marriott's words), Marriott will notify those of us who have an SPG account and a Rewards account when we can combine them into a single account.
I recommend spending some time studying the details, including the FAQ, at https://members.marriott.com/