Troopers

Based on the new website clarification that SPG Gold via Amex Plat will be new Gold in August, I was able to cancel several non-refundable reservations for post-August stays. it took a while to explain as the agent had no clue but a supervisor was able to cancel the non-refundable reservations without penalties.

estnet

Totally confused - so gold will be gold but you are cancelling non refundable res because?

hhoope01

Starwood Lurker just posted an update with a bit more information in the Starwood forum for the what will happen to elite status later this year: Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August

Troopers

Downgrade in benefits (4pm late checkout, lounge). New gold does not equal old gold. New gold is equivalent to old silver. New Platinum is equivalent to old gold.

estnet

Not according to this
https://www.marriott.com/marriott-re...er-benefits.mi

Gold gets late check out and lounge

Troopers

That's the current program. Post August, everything changes (purpose of this thread). See here:

https://members.marriott.com/benefits/

scubadu

To be a bit more explicit, "new" Gold will still have a late check out but it's 2PM instead of 4 PM (which still is better than noon), but it's space available not guaranteed.

Regards

estnet

Thank you - so confusing that Marriott doesn't have a notice on the page I looked at indicating only until end of July. I certainly get your point now - sorry I had missed it.

Marriott Rewards Insider

Since our announcement last month, we’ve been listening to member feedback and have a few updates and clarifications to share.

LIFETIME

Based on member response, we’re adding more flexibility for Lifetime Platinum Premier qualification. Now, SPG and Rewards members who achieve 750 nights and 10 years of Platinum status by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into that Lifetime tier, which starting in 2019 will no longer be available to earn. Rewards members can also qualify under the current criteria (750 nights + 2M points) through year end.

As we shared previously, members can also qualify for all other Lifetime tiers through both the new criteria on an ongoing basis and under the current criteria through December 31, 2018. And remember, we’ll combine lifetime activity across both Rewards and SPG toward qualification when members combine accounts in August.

AUGUST ELITE STATUS

We’ve also received some questions regarding status in the new program for members who status matched to receive elite in both SPG and Rewards. In August, nights earned (vs. linked status) will determine Elite status in the new program. For example, a SPG Gold member (10 stays/25 nights) who status matched to Rewards Gold Elite (50 nights) will be mapped to Gold Elite (25 nights) in the new program, whereas a Rewards Gold Elite (50 nights) will be mapped to Platinum Elite (50 nights).

The below FAQs hopefully provide even more detail, and have now been added to members.marriott.com. Please be sure to let us know what other questions we can help answer.

Additional FAQs

Can I earn Lifetime status under the legacy requirements (active prior to August 2018) for Lifetime Elite status in Marriott Rewards, Ritz-Carlton Rewards or SPG? If so, when will I be notified of my Lifetime Elite status?

Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.

Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.

If I will not be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite, will I have the ability to earn into this level in 2018?

Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.

How are years at tenure calculated for Legacy MR and RCR members?

We are keeping members “whole” in the applicable night tier in which they earned their Elite status.

Example: If a member has 4 years of Elite status at the 50 night level (Gold Elite status) they will be counted in August and beyond as 4 years at the new 50 night level (Platinum Elite status). Only the names of the levels are changing. How we account for tenure is not changing.

I already linked my SPG and Rewards accounts. What will happen to my matched elite status in August?

The current status matching opportunity is tier for tier (e.g. Gold gets Gold, Platinum gets Platinum), even though the qualification requirements and benefits between SPG and Rewards are quite different. Given this, the following Elite status mapping will occur in August (unless a member has also qualified by nights for higher status):

SPG Members

· SPG Gold (10 stays/25 nights) is status matched to Rewards Gold Elite (50 nights) and in August will be Gold Elite (25 nights)

· SPG Platinum (25 stays/50 nights) is status matched to Rewards Platinum Elite (75 nights) and in August will be Platinum Elite (50 nights)

Rewards Members

· Rewards Gold Elite (50 nights) is status matched to SPG Gold (10 stays/25 nights) and in August will be Platinum Elite (50 nights)

· Rewards Platinum Elite (75 nights) is status matched to SPG Platinum (25 stays/50 nights) and in August will be Platinum Premier Elite (75 nights)

Best regards,

Marriott Rewards Insider

RogerD408

Hmmm, was this lifted by the post by Starwood Lurker for SPG members? MR LTP is nights and points. They haven't been tracking years of status in the past so is this even possible now?

puntamita

What will happen to SPG Lifetime Plat members that have well over 750 nights and 10 years by August 1st. Will they be considered Lifetime Plat Premier on August 1st or have to wait until end of year.

Marriott did a great job listening to their customers!

rny321

For Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite, are Marriott and Starwood nights combined when calculating the required 750 nights? There have been conflicting comments about whether or not all nights must be earned in a single program. By yearend, I expect to have 650 Marriott nights and more than 100 Starwood nights and over 2MM MR points. Will I be LTP or LTPP at the end of 2018?

GVA

My understanding is that provided you have 10 years of platinum status then yes.

getagb

This is still frustratingly vague.

If I have 2 million lifetime Marriott points but only 749 lifetime EQNs I would not qualify for lifetime platinum under legacy requirements, which need 750 nights. But if I had 1 SPG lifetime night, would I now qualify for lifetime premier because you will “combine lifetime activity” and 749 + 1 = 750?

Or does the combined lifetime “activity” only refer to years, and not points or nights?

swag

For years of status, has it been determined how they count the partial membership year in which you quality? Starting from no status, you stayed 50 Marriott nights in calendar 2013, this gave 50-night status for the (rest of the) 2013 membership year, and for the 2014 membership year. Does this count as one year of status, or two?