Apr 16, 2018, 4:15 pm
Last edit by: dayone
This thread (post #5 from Marriott Rewards Insider) has the official announcement of changes effective later in 2018.
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August
Apr 16, 2018, 7:53 pm
#136
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I hit 101 nights for the year combined between the programs today. I have almost 3000 lifetime nights so I'll be grandfathered in at a LT PP.
I suppose at this point there's no harm in being program agnostic (recognizing there are currently some differences in benefits at particular hotels between the programs), right?
I suppose at this point there's no harm in being program agnostic (recognizing there are currently some differences in benefits at particular hotels between the programs), right?
Apr 16, 2018, 7:54 pm
#137
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
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--Jon
Apr 16, 2018, 7:55 pm
#138
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What make you think you lost value? Especially when no one has any idea what category any properties will be?
Apr 16, 2018, 7:59 pm
#139
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And no, I don't think 45K JW's in NYC will go to 70K off-peak.
How many properties went up significantly? I must have missed the list. Please provide a link.
Last edited by CPRich; Apr 16, 2018 at 8:09 pm
Apr 16, 2018, 8:01 pm
#140
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This is absolute death for me. I've got 402 nights at Marriott properties in the past three years. I could hit LT Plat in three more years under the old rules, and may never hit it now as my travel will dry up at the end of 2020. But I realize my travel is somewhat unique.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:03 pm
#141
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I think anyone who doesn't see the massive impending devaluation in redemptions is blind. Does anyone really believe that the highest level Marriott properties (think JWs in New York City) that are currently 45,000 won't jump to 70,000 off-peak? And does anyone really believe that there will be more than a handful of off-peak nights in any major metropolitan area? Come on. We'll be paying "Peak" pricing nearly year-round.
And remember the category changes Marriott announces every year? Remember how, like, 90% of the properties move up in category and only a few drop down? Does anyone really believe that most Marriott properties will not cost more? Come on. We'll be paying higher rates up and down the board.
Precisely this.
And remember the category changes Marriott announces every year? Remember how, like, 90% of the properties move up in category and only a few drop down? Does anyone really believe that most Marriott properties will not cost more? Come on. We'll be paying higher rates up and down the board.
Precisely this.
Better get used to Paris in the second or third weeks of January for any savings.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:03 pm
#142
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Don't get overly excited about the equivalent of SPG SNA's. They don't even apply until 5 days before a stay. I used 0 last year and 1 so far this year.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:04 pm
#143
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I will confess I haven't read through every post here. But I'm confused on my lifetime status situation.
I'm currently at 500 nights and >7 years as Marriott Gold. Currently I'm Platinum.
But for the new program, will I automatically qualify for LT status? If so, it looks like I would be the new Gold. However, under the new scheme, >50 nights is Platinum. So if I had 600 nights, and >10 years with 50+ nights, would I be LT Platinum? I guess I'm confused on if they're using the metal status or the # of nights to count past status years.
I'm currently at 500 nights and >7 years as Marriott Gold. Currently I'm Platinum.
But for the new program, will I automatically qualify for LT status? If so, it looks like I would be the new Gold. However, under the new scheme, >50 nights is Platinum. So if I had 600 nights, and >10 years with 50+ nights, would I be LT Platinum? I guess I'm confused on if they're using the metal status or the # of nights to count past status years.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:05 pm
#144
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Apr 16, 2018, 8:05 pm
#145
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Can you at least complete the remaining 50 nights through meetings? It will be a shame to miss out on the LTPPE, which will only be grandfathered once.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:08 pm
#146
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I'd be glad to exchange your "devalued" SPG's for MRs. Heck, I'll even give you 2:1.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:12 pm
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It never ceases to amaze me how cheapo hotel executives are with their highest revenue customers. No breakfast at resorts or RC - supposedly will be included for St. Regis but would not hold my breath. So basically if you want breakfast when you go on that once-a-year vacation you better take your family to a Fairfield or Courtyard.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:17 pm
#148
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So if I am currently marriott gold, but have that status from being plat and then getting a soft landing to gold where I did not qualify on stays last year will I be stuck at gold come august or will they bump me up to plat until the end of 2018?
Apr 16, 2018, 8:19 pm
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I have a 5-night road trip in May that I unfortunately have to spend at independent hotels. I'm trying to schedule 4-5 nights around that trip at Marriott properties. That would give me 45-46 nights.
I should hit 50 nights, but it could be close. I lost a couple clients this year so my travel is way down.
Apr 16, 2018, 8:20 pm
#150
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Your attitude is not much different to saying something like: "you can afford to stay at a hotel 25 or 35 or 50 nights a year(or have a job that pays for you to do so) so why would you need status and the free benefits that come with it?". Answer: everyone likes loyalty benefits, it is a large part of why this forum exists.