Apr 16, 2018, 4:15 pm
Last edit by: dayone
This thread (post #5 from Marriott Rewards Insider) has the official announcement of changes effective later in 2018.
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August
Apr 16, 2018, 3:20 pm
#31
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Manchester
Programs: BA GfL, Marriott TfL, Hertz 5*
Posts: 267
And for existing Platinum premier
No mention of new elite Status for existing MR PP.
The ‘What’s new’ for Marriott mentions an existing status ‘Platinum with 100 nights and $20K spend’ but doesn’t mention PP !!!!
The ‘What’s new’ for Marriott mentions an existing status ‘Platinum with 100 nights and $20K spend’ but doesn’t mention PP !!!!
Apr 16, 2018, 3:22 pm
#32
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,559
My questions:
- What is the last date on which to redeem an award under today's rules? (Specifically, a Category 5 Travel Package.)
- What happens to certificates sitting in our account, unattached to a hotel stay, that have an existing Marriott Category on them? Examples include the annual CC certs, Megabonus certs, and unused Travel Package certs. If these certs have an expiration date beyond August, what categories can they be redeemed for?
- When we pull the trigger on our final Travel Package, will we be able to extend it an extra year in 2019, redeeming it in 2020? Or is that option dead as the TP's are retired for good?
- What is the last date on which to redeem an award under today's rules? (Specifically, a Category 5 Travel Package.)
- What happens to certificates sitting in our account, unattached to a hotel stay, that have an existing Marriott Category on them? Examples include the annual CC certs, Megabonus certs, and unused Travel Package certs. If these certs have an expiration date beyond August, what categories can they be redeemed for?
- When we pull the trigger on our final Travel Package, will we be able to extend it an extra year in 2019, redeeming it in 2020? Or is that option dead as the TP's are retired for good?
Apr 16, 2018, 3:23 pm
#33
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Bonvoy Titanium, UA Silver, HH G, IHG P, Hyatt P
Posts: 55
THE GOOD:
- Existing Lifetime status members seem to come out okay. New LT Plat = Today's LT Gold, for the most part.
- "Main" brands like Courtyard and AC will now recognize elite status.
- Category system is still in place. They didn't go Hilton and go dynamic pricing from top to bottom. Although if it's dynamic above Cat 7, that's a bummer because that's where the most aspirational properties will be. (I guess I'm just happy they didn't turn the whole thing into a rebate program.)
- Incidentals count everywhere.
THE BAD:
- I sense a pretty big devaluation coming. Peak and non-peak always scare me, because "peak" ends up being like 8 months out of the year.
- Looks like Ritz is still OUT as far as elite benefits, as are Edition and Design.
- Can't tell if resorts are in or out?
THE UGLY:
- Travel Packages are dead.
What's the latest date we can redeem an existing TP? August sometime?
- Existing Lifetime status members seem to come out okay. New LT Plat = Today's LT Gold, for the most part.
- "Main" brands like Courtyard and AC will now recognize elite status.
- Category system is still in place. They didn't go Hilton and go dynamic pricing from top to bottom. Although if it's dynamic above Cat 7, that's a bummer because that's where the most aspirational properties will be. (I guess I'm just happy they didn't turn the whole thing into a rebate program.)
- Incidentals count everywhere.
THE BAD:
- I sense a pretty big devaluation coming. Peak and non-peak always scare me, because "peak" ends up being like 8 months out of the year.
- Looks like Ritz is still OUT as far as elite benefits, as are Edition and Design.
- Can't tell if resorts are in or out?
THE UGLY:
- Travel Packages are dead.
What's the latest date we can redeem an existing TP? August sometime?
Apr 16, 2018, 3:27 pm
#34
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
High and low season is a better way to do it rather than the same number of points year round. It now better matches demand.
Apr 16, 2018, 3:32 pm
#35
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: YOW
Programs: AC*SEMM, *G, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 897
THE GOOD:
- Existing Lifetime status members seem to come out okay. New LT Plat = Today's LT Gold, for the most part.
- "Main" brands like Courtyard and AC will now recognize elite status.
- Category system is still in place. They didn't go Hilton and go dynamic pricing from top to bottom. Although if it's dynamic above Cat 7, that's a bummer because that's where the most aspirational properties will be. (I guess I'm just happy they didn't turn the whole thing into a rebate program.)
- Incidentals count everywhere.
THE BAD:
- I sense a pretty big devaluation coming. Peak and non-peak always scare me, because "peak" ends up being like 8 months out of the year.
- Looks like Ritz is still OUT as far as elite benefits, as are Edition and Design.
- Can't tell if resorts are in or out?
THE UGLY:
- Travel Packages are dead.
What's the latest date we can redeem an existing TP? August sometime?
- Existing Lifetime status members seem to come out okay. New LT Plat = Today's LT Gold, for the most part.
- "Main" brands like Courtyard and AC will now recognize elite status.
- Category system is still in place. They didn't go Hilton and go dynamic pricing from top to bottom. Although if it's dynamic above Cat 7, that's a bummer because that's where the most aspirational properties will be. (I guess I'm just happy they didn't turn the whole thing into a rebate program.)
- Incidentals count everywhere.
THE BAD:
- I sense a pretty big devaluation coming. Peak and non-peak always scare me, because "peak" ends up being like 8 months out of the year.
- Looks like Ritz is still OUT as far as elite benefits, as are Edition and Design.
- Can't tell if resorts are in or out?
THE UGLY:
- Travel Packages are dead.
What's the latest date we can redeem an existing TP? August sometime?
Apr 16, 2018, 3:35 pm
#36
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 845
looks like off peak travelers win starting in 2019
Apr 16, 2018, 3:36 pm
#37
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 17
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ogram-end-spg/
"This new program is more generous than the current Marriott program, and I’m told that “anyone who has achieved the thresholds on August will automatically be upgraded to Lifetime Elite status.”"
Apr 16, 2018, 3:37 pm
#38
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
I believe that you can. From the website:
So you can qualify based on 25 stays (all must be SPG) or 50 nights across the programs.
- Starting January 1, 2019, Elite status will be achieved on nights and not on stays. Until then, SPG members can achieve status based on stays at SPG-associated brands only, but can also qualify based on nights at any of the 29 brands.
Apr 16, 2018, 3:38 pm
#39
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
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From that, I inferred that the TPs disappear August 1st. I would be happy to be wrong.
Apr 16, 2018, 3:42 pm
#41
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They're going with 8 Categories. Cat 8 will be priced the same way as 1-7; high season (higher points required) and low season (less points required).
High and low season is a better way to do it rather than the same number of points year round. It now better matches demand.
High and low season is a better way to do it rather than the same number of points year round. It now better matches demand.
So I guess my fear is more about Hilton's implementation of peak pricing and then, in 2017, true dynamic pricing. Now I'm watching Marriott start down this same path and am uneasy about it.
Apr 16, 2018, 3:43 pm
#42
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador
Posts: 598
Question: Does anyone know how the suite night awards will work for this year?
I'm Marriott Platinum through Feb 2019, so I understand that I'll turn to Platinum Premiere in August (still through Feb 2019?). Will I be able to get 5 suite night awards in August, or will this start only if I requalify for next year?
I'm Marriott Platinum through Feb 2019, so I understand that I'll turn to Platinum Premiere in August (still through Feb 2019?). Will I be able to get 5 suite night awards in August, or will this start only if I requalify for next year?
Apr 16, 2018, 3:47 pm
#43
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 85
Question: Does anyone know how the suite night awards will work for this year?
I'm Marriott Platinum through Feb 2019, so I understand that I'll turn to Platinum Premiere in August (still through Feb 2019?). Will I be able to get 5 suite night awards in August, or will this start only if I requalify for next year?
I'm Marriott Platinum through Feb 2019, so I understand that I'll turn to Platinum Premiere in August (still through Feb 2019?). Will I be able to get 5 suite night awards in August, or will this start only if I requalify for next year?
"Marriott has informed us that members who achieved Platinum status prior to the launch of the combined program in August and chose Suite Night Awards for their choice option will receive 10 Suite Night Awards for this year."
I don't totally understand this perk. Can someone walk me through it?
1) When it says "Additional Annual Choice Benefits (5 Suite Night Awards, a Free Night Award or Gift Options)", what are the "gift options"? Points?
2) It still lists "Enhanced Room Upgrade (Including Select Suites)" as a perk for Platinums and Platinum Premiers. What's the difference between this and the Suite Night Awards? The Suite Night Awards are guaranteed upgrades if you use the award?
Apr 16, 2018, 3:52 pm
#44
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hold it down for The Bay, reppin' Oakland
Programs: Lowly UA silver, Marriott Ambassador/Tit4Lyf, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,763
Apr 16, 2018, 3:52 pm
#45
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: PHL, NYC
Programs: AA PLT, DL SLV, UA SLV, MR LTT, HH DIA
Posts: 10,064
https://members.marriott.com/spg/
- Starting January 1, 2019, Elite status will be achieved on nights and not on stays. Until then, SPG members can achieve status based on stays at SPG-associated brands only, but can also qualify based on nights at any of the 29 brands.