Apr 16, 2018, 4:15 pm
Last edit by: dayone
This thread (post #5 from Marriott Rewards Insider) has the official announcement of changes effective later in 2018.
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
An earlier, speculative discussion appears in the following closed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...tus-tiers.html
Official announcement – See how our three loyalty programs will become one in August
Apr 17, 2018, 10:12 am
#256
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I guess time will tell if StR and LuxCol manage to pull the usual RC guest to their hotels.
(Personally I want to try RC and compare them to StR and LuxCol.. So far I'm very happy with those 2 brands service)
Then by then RC owners can start thinking of provide equal benefits to SPG/MR members
I wonder if RC Singapore will finally participate in the new program ?
And also RC Reserve properties.
It seems like no mention about Ritz Carlton Reserve anywhere in the announcement. Either RCR is considered as separate brands not under Marriott altogether, or Marriott just simply forgot they have those in their portfolio
(Personally I want to try RC and compare them to StR and LuxCol.. So far I'm very happy with those 2 brands service)
Then by then RC owners can start thinking of provide equal benefits to SPG/MR members
I wonder if RC Singapore will finally participate in the new program ?
And also RC Reserve properties.
It seems like no mention about Ritz Carlton Reserve anywhere in the announcement. Either RCR is considered as separate brands not under Marriott altogether, or Marriott just simply forgot they have those in their portfolio
Apr 17, 2018, 10:13 am
#257
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If the new program starts August then I assume it would be then. Based on 2017 nights?
Apr 17, 2018, 10:17 am
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(Kenny, an unwashed Marriott elite)
Apr 17, 2018, 10:17 am
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Looking at my numbers it appears that I've already qualified for ambassador. So when the new tiers go into effect (August?), what will I get from ambassidor that I don't have now as a P/LTP? I've looked throughout the Marriott forum and there are too many results when searching for the word ambassador. Is there a link somewhere to what defines a Marriott Ambassador? Sorry if it's obvious.
I would like to see the new terms and conditions clearly define the upgrade order with platinum premier ambassador taking a codified precedence over platinum premier and platinum premier clearly given a codified precedence over platinum.
I actually wonder if the ambassador service is all smoke and mirrors in that many people don't really use it. It's like credit cards that offer concierges. I don't know anyone who has ever used it. I suspect that many high-rollers have a travel agent or manager, executive assistant, or junior staffer who helps with their air travel and hotel reservations. Regardless, I also suspect that in many cases it's just easier to make a booking yourself and then just let the ambassador know you have a special request for that upcoming stay.
Apr 17, 2018, 10:23 am
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I missed the StR butler coffee and packing/unpacking service at the RC, so I’d likely choose StR over RC when given the choice. For those who like lounges, however, the RC Club level may be a deciding factor in the RC favor. I don’t care about lounges, so the StR is still my preference.
Do you tip for butler for coffee? I'd assume 'yes' for packing/unpacking.
I suspect they would wipe your butt if you asked nice enough. Or jump off the side of a building. All while smiling and nodding their head.
Apr 17, 2018, 10:24 am
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Apr 17, 2018, 10:28 am
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Getting some conflicting info. Will keep it simple. Have Marriott Gold & SPG Gold. Under the revised plan am I correct in assuming that it becomes Marriott Platinum?
Apr 17, 2018, 10:33 am
#263
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Apr 17, 2018, 10:36 am
#264
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https://members.marriott.com/redeem/ for the new rates. Very unclear what hotels will be in what category.
Best regards,
Marriott Rewards Insider
Apr 17, 2018, 10:41 am
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I'm referring to transferring points from two different people with same address, eg. husband transfers points into wife's account.
Apr 17, 2018, 10:46 am
#266
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If a hotel brand is going to participate in the program then it should have to comply with all of the benefits. If you're going to give a property an opt-out on breakfast, which frankly makes no sense because Marriott International manages most or all Ritz-Carlton properties (you'd think Marriott could force itself to comply), then where does it stop? It's much easier for a high-end property that gets an exemption from breakfast to also thumb their nose at upgrades, which they will be required to provide, unless the new terms and conditions exempt them.
Apr 17, 2018, 10:52 am
#267
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Apr 17, 2018, 10:53 am
#268
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Good news! Marriott Gold will be Marriott Platinum this August!
Apr 17, 2018, 10:57 am
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Good news! Marriott Gold will be Marriott Platinum this August!
Apr 17, 2018, 10:57 am
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1) Is the new "breakfast offering" conditioned beyond the exemption for Ritz-Carlton, Design, Edition, Vacation Club and Executive Apartments?
2) Is "breakfast" defined so a property can't claim toast, coffee and juice is breakfast?
3) Is there a clearly defined order for upgrades? In word others, platinum premier ambassadors take precedence over platinum premiers and platinums and platinum premiers takes precedence over platinums for upgrades.
4) Is Rewarding Events staying as-is?
5) What is the policy on resort fees that charge for benefits (like internet access) that are supposed to be complimentary for elites? Will elites get a resort fee waiver or, at the least, a resort fee discount to compensate?
6) Can you fix the US version of the Marriott website? It doesn't recognize anyone with the current Rewards platinum premier status. Marriott UK, Marriott Japan and other versions of the website recognize platinum premier status. It's a HTML coding error.
7) If a St. Regis has a club lounge do platinum, platinum premier and platinum premier ambassadors get access?