joshua362

My guess, which echos my personal stay CY pattern over 15 years, is either a very low percentage or very high percentage at any one time.

A typical smart Platinum stays far away unless forced to due to lack of other choices, geography or high demand in the immediate area!

stvr

Newest leak shows 29 brands and excludes BULGARI. So 25/29 means 4 will not.

C17PSGR

Source?

hockeyinsider

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29623903-post232.html

LINDEGR

I don't get that comment. This is like a turtle swimming in molasses slow....

sdsearch

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garkster

I'd rather stay at a nice Best Western property than any U.S. Courtyard.

Also, just because there's free breakfast doesn't mean it's worth eating.

stvr

After 50 nights across the portfolio, members will achieve Platinum Elite status. As part of the Platinum Welcome Gift, members will have the option of choosing points, an amenity or a breakfast offering – options vary by brand, and The Ritz-Carlton, EDITION, Marriott Vacation Club, Gaylord Hotels, Marriott Executive Apartments and Design Hotels do not participate in the breakfast offering option. A breakfast offering is new for Courtyard, AC Hotels by Marriott, Moxy Hotels, Protea Hotels and resorts. Brands that are currently offering lounge access will continue to offer complimentary breakfast as part of the lounge offering.

So that's 23 of 29.

Here are the global footprints of the naughty six per Skift, if it soothes the heart...

EDITION Hotels: 4 hotels; 819 rooms
Marriott Executive Apartments: 28 hotels; 4,181 rooms
Gaylord Hotels: 5 hotels; 8,098 rooms
Marriott Vacation Club: 58 properties; 12,807 rooms
Design Hotels: 290 hotels worldwide; 23,000 rooms
Ritz-Carlton: 96 hotels; 27,131 rooms (THE PAINFUL ONE!!!)

C17PSGR

So bizarre on RC and Edition, not that I care ... but why breakfast for LC/StR but not RC/Edition?

pinniped

Mildly disappointed to see Ritz excluded. I never expected MVCI or Execustay to have breakfast, have yet to run across EDITION or Design, and really hope to never have to set foot inside another Gaylord Hotel.

Happy about Moxy, AC, and Courtyard. I don't particularly love any of these brands, but it's good to know that status will now be recognized there.

spgplat21

• Lounge Access (with Breakfast — at JW Marriott®, Marriott Hotels, Delta Hotels by MarriottTM, Autograph Collection® Hotels, Renaissance®Hotels, Sheraton®, Westin®, Le Meridien®); Excludes Resorts

Does that mean no breakfast at all at the other brands?

Edit: Never mind, I see that this is specifically dealing with lounges and the list of excluded brands was posted above. The wording had me extra nervous.

joshua362

"As part of the Platinum Welcome Gift, members will have the option of choosing points, an amenity or a breakfast offering – options vary by brand"

This makes me nervous. "Here's your 4 ounce Juice cup and prepackaged muffin. That's our breakfast offering. Take it or take 500 points".

azepine00

Does breakfast benefit start in august or jan 1?

Horace

I think it's because of franchise agreements. Starwood legacy luxury brands had breakfast as a Platinum welcome option baked into the agreements. Marriott legacy luxury brands (except for JW Marriott) had nothing similar.

Of course, that raises the question of how the new Platinum breakfast offering at Courtyard, AC Hotels by Marriott, MOXY Hotels, and Protea Hotels is being mandated and funded.

I imagine that the kind of breakfast that guests would expect from Ritz-Carlton and Edition would represent a significant cost to the hotel. A much simpler breakfast at a select service brand would represent a much lower cost, with some of that offset by not having to provide a welcome gift of 400 points and an amenity from the pantry (as Courtyard and AC Hotels do now).

An even bigger (and very welcome) change is that resorts are no longer excluded at the five Marriott brands that excluded them. The cost to the resorts and/or to Marriott marketing is likely to be significant.

When you start to think about 6,500 hotels -- with almost all of them franchised -- it's mind-boggling how much renegotiation and arm-twisting Marriott probably had to do with hotel owners.

DJ_Iceman

Actually, I suspect there is some kind of clause in the franchise agreements that basically lets Marriott do whatever they want whenever they want. Of course being that blunt about things would be bad business and not in keeping with the values of a company that still promotes ethical behavior, but when push comes to shove I suspect Marriott had to remind some of their franchisees on which side of the relationship the power really lies.