Last edit by: MSPeconomist
In addition to the OP, see posts 70 and 121 for "information". Also, see post 1402 in the sticky merger thread in the Starwood forum which summarizes the information posted by OMAAT. [VFTW also had a similar discussion yesterday.]
Post 434 has a summary of qualification requirements for Marriott LTP in various periods.
Post 434 has a summary of qualification requirements for Marriott LTP in various periods.
Leaked New Combined Marriott / SPG Status Tiers
#181
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hold it down for The Bay, reppin' Oakland
Programs: Lowly UA silver, Marriott Ambassador/Tit4Lyf, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,763
I just got that chase Marriott card last year, getting the 15 nights right away. Apparently, they have stopped the 15 nights as a benefit going forward, but do existing a card holders continue to get 15 nights per enrollment year? I do not have an employer, so have to qualify for these statuses out-of-pocket. So, if I can now start combining Marriott and Starwood property stays, along with the 15 automatic nights, that will make it a lot easier to get to the golden level of 75 per year.
#182
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
I just got that chase Marriott card last year, getting the 15 nights right away. Apparently, they have stopped the 15 nights as a benefit going forward, but do existing a card holders continue to get 15 nights per enrollment year? I do not have an employer, so have to qualify for these statuses out-of-pocket. So, if I can now start combining Marriott and Starwood property stays, along with the 15 automatic nights, that will make it a lot easier to get to the golden level of 75 per year.
Go to: https://creditcards.chase.com/travel...4R8&iCELL=6C1Y
Click on: Ways to earn Elite Status. You'll get a popup, pasted below. It still lists 15 EQNs per year.
The popup:
Marriott Rewards® Premier credit card
The fastest way to earn Marriott Rewards Elite statusYou'll receive 15 Elite credits after account opening and every year after your account anniversary, giving you guaranteed Silver Elite status every year.* Same page link to Offer Details
Every $3,000 you spend on purchases earns you 1 additional credit toward Elite status – with no limit to the number of credits you can earn.*
Every $3,000 you spend on purchases earns you 1 additional credit toward Elite status – with no limit to the number of credits you can earn.*
#183
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
Marriott has been doing this as a trial for a couple of years now. They have not, however, based it on status or spend (if they did, I would have a concierge). I'm mostly DIY with my bookings, but I would appreciate a concierge/ambassador to run interference for me when there are problems. I would love avoiding lengthy hold times and phone calls when chasing missing points. And if they do put a spend requirement on getting a concierge/ambassador, I hope it is not measured by points (unless they include credit card points). I put $40-60k of Marriott spend on my Marriott card every year. If I only get credit for the points from three rooms, this will radically understate the amount of business I am bringing Marriott.
Someone upthread mentioned a vacation to Asia as a cheap way to keep status. I did something similar with my daughter a few years ago ... did a month or so in China/HK/Thailand to keep SPG Plat. It wasn't all that cheap though, as we stayed at the nicest properties in most cities, such as the St Regis in Lhasa (Tibet). I've still got a planned vacation to Egypt should I decide I want to get status with someone other than Marriott; hotels are also cheap there.
#184
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Don't forget one of the Chase-issued credit cards is also called Marriott premier. So someone could be a platinum and a premier without being a platinum-premier.
#185
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
I guess anything is possible, but I would be very surprised if SPG LT Plat is not matched to the same lifetime tier as MR LT Plat. I know it's a popular thought, but not every SPG platinum member qualifies on exactly 25 stays.
10 years of platinum means probably 600-800 nights for the average lifetime platinum and 2M points sounds like a lot, but adding in credit card spend and a 3:1 transfer ratio, I would imagine the majority of LT Plats would meet that threshold too, especially since the SPG card is a better option for regular CC spending.
The most troubling aspect of all the speculation is the dynamic awards though. Airline transfers are where the big point values are, but both MR and SPG offer solid rewards for hotel stays too, and dynamic awards would almost certainly kill that. I use hotel rewards way more often than I need international first class award flights, and I've already been pretty disappointed at MR award availability for peak travel times so to add this on top would be would be tough to swallow.
10 years of platinum means probably 600-800 nights for the average lifetime platinum and 2M points sounds like a lot, but adding in credit card spend and a 3:1 transfer ratio, I would imagine the majority of LT Plats would meet that threshold too, especially since the SPG card is a better option for regular CC spending.
The most troubling aspect of all the speculation is the dynamic awards though. Airline transfers are where the big point values are, but both MR and SPG offer solid rewards for hotel stays too, and dynamic awards would almost certainly kill that. I use hotel rewards way more often than I need international first class award flights, and I've already been pretty disappointed at MR award availability for peak travel times so to add this on top would be would be tough to swallow.
#186
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: UA*1K, Marriott Titanium (LTP), Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,665
Unfortunately we Canadians get screwed on the best credit card bonus, and if I recall correctly, several of the worldwide versions don't grant nights/stays either.
#187
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, UA Gold, Marriott LTT, Avis President's Club
Posts: 1,539
With the addition of the new rumored tier, if they do allow lifetime at that level, I hope I qualify with what I already have. I just left my consulting job. I "retired" (i'm only 27) with 1305 lifetime nights, and 2,765,796 lifetime points.
#188
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Someone upthread mentioned a vacation to Asia as a cheap way to keep status. I did something similar with my daughter a few years ago ... did a month or so in China/HK/Thailand to keep SPG Plat. It wasn't all that cheap though, as we stayed at the nicest properties in most cities, such as the St Regis in Lhasa (Tibet). I've still got a planned vacation to Egypt should I decide I want to get status with someone other than Marriott; hotels are also cheap there.
#189
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hold it down for The Bay, reppin' Oakland
Programs: Lowly UA silver, Marriott Ambassador/Tit4Lyf, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,763
As gokeeper mentioned, this is a reply to worldtraveller73'spost about the Canadian version of the cards; of which, the Chase Marriott officially terminated all accounts as of March 14th, leaving no Marriott card in Canada. Thankfully, we get 2x the free night certificates as a consolation, and either 15 or 30 night credits this year, depending on renewal dates.
Unfortunately we Canadians get screwed on the best credit card bonus, and if I recall correctly, several of the worldwide versions don't grant nights/stays either.
Unfortunately we Canadians get screwed on the best credit card bonus, and if I recall correctly, several of the worldwide versions don't grant nights/stays either.
#190
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hold it down for The Bay, reppin' Oakland
Programs: Lowly UA silver, Marriott Ambassador/Tit4Lyf, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,763
It looks like you can fly from New York to Jakarta for under $660. You could book one of those $30-50 per night hotels for a month. If you stay there, you stay there. You don't need to physically check-out thanks to Marriott's mobile application. If you need 35 nights, $40 x 35 = $1400 + $660 = $2060. If I was short 35 nights for lifetime status, I'd totally do it.
#191
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: PHL and LAS
Programs: AA PLT Pro, Marriott Lifetime PLT
Posts: 144
This was a gripe of a coworker of mine. He asked several times if he could be part of the beta program when they trialed it last year and was turned down. His number was somewhere in the 150's.
#192
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
I'm a 30+ year member with 125-150 nights a year, and Plat Premier for several years. I've had an ambassador but still not really sure the purpose. I have asked her to check on upgrades for a couple of weekend trips -- none of which I received -- and to add people's name to a reservation which I suppose saved me from calling in a couple of times. Otherwise, it sounds cool but I don't get the value.
#193
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 4,609
I wondered about this too, especially since for me as a Canadian, my AMEX Plat offers me SPG Gold, which gives me Marriott Gold. If SPG gold becomes like Marriott Silver, it is worthless for me, and I would rather shift to a card that offered me Plat status, which is most likely going to be where you get the free breakfast/lounge access.
I really hope this doesn't affect me for the rest of the year as a Marriott Gold member, I booked Marriott hotels with the knowledge I would be getting that lounge / breakfast. I have about 20 nights booked thus far, half of which were a pre-paid booking I cannot change.
I really hope this doesn't affect me for the rest of the year as a Marriott Gold member, I booked Marriott hotels with the knowledge I would be getting that lounge / breakfast. I have about 20 nights booked thus far, half of which were a pre-paid booking I cannot change.
#194
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,232
What’s interesting to me is the discussion of a spend requirement attached to top tier status BUT seemingly no way to earn or advance tiers based solely on spend . Isn’t it possible to earn top tier at Hyatt and Hilton based solely on spend regardless of stays and nights ? Or am I mistaken ?
#195
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 5
I wonder what will happen to the folks who will have qualified for plat by the time the new program is implemented. Will they be given Plat 75 until the next qualification period or will they be given the lowly Plat 50? If given the Plat 50, they are getting royally screwed.