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Differences in MR/SPG Program Benefits for Plats at full service properties

Differences in MR/SPG Program Benefits for Plats at full service properties

 
Old Apr 7, 18, 2:03 pm
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Differences in MR/SPG Program Benefits for Plats at full service properties

Don't believe there there is a thread on this but, with some trepidation, it might be worthwhile to have a mostly objective list of differences of program differences at full service properties for those who are Plats or above.

1. Lounge access plus $10 voucher at JW/Ren/Marriott/Autograph properties vs. breakfast voucher at W/Westin/Sheraton/Tribute properties
2. Breakfast benefit at SPG resort properties vs. no benefit at MR properties
3. $100 room type guarantee at MR properties vs. no guarantee at SPG properties
4. Breakfast benefit at St. Regis/LC vs. no benefit at RC/Edition
5. A more defined suite benefit at SPG properties compared to MR properties
6. SNA for 100+ night SPG members
7. Points on all purchases at St. Regis/LC vs RC/Edition room rates only

I'm sure I'm missing some.

Of course, there will be properties that fail to deliver or exceed program wide benefits ...

Last edited by C17PSGR; Apr 8, 18 at 11:09 am Reason: Added Edition in a couple of spots
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Old Apr 7, 18, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
Points on all purchases at St. Regis/LC vs RC room rates only
Actually not much different. Like RC, Starwood properties do not give points for most non-room charges. Excluded items include spa, car service, and often restaurant.

The big win here is for the non-RC/Edition Marriott properties which in most cases give points for all these items.
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Old Apr 7, 18, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee View Post
Excluded items include spa, car service, and often restaurant.
For restaurants, it only happens with those rare properties where the restaurant is run by a third party.

Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
1. Lounge access plus $10 voucher at JW/Ren/Marriott/Autograph properties vs. breakfast voucher at W/Westin/Sheraton/Tribute properties
If there's a lounge (at least at Sheraton and Westin), you get access. The breakfast voucher is only for properties that don't have lounges, or if the lounge is closed.
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Old Apr 7, 18, 11:09 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman View Post
For restaurants, it only happens with those rare properties where the restaurant is run by a third party.
Then I must just have bad luck, because I'm now two in a row on this (most recently Milan Excelsior Gallia - where they didn't even credit me the full room rate). And I've also had room service not credited.
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No breakfast at Editions either for Plats?
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
Don't believe there there is a thread on this but, with some trepidation, it might be worthwhile to have a mostly objective list of differences of program differences at full service properties for those who are Plats or above.

I'm sure I'm missing some.

Of course, there will be properties that fail to deliver or exceed program wide benefits ...
I really like the elite guarantee on MR. In fact it is included in the terms and conditions of the program..not sure if SPG has something similar. In addition to room type, elites are also guaranteed on breakfast (select brands), 48-hour availability, and PAG. MR also has walk-out policy for where you will be re-accommodated to a similar hotel and paid US$100-200 plus up to 140k MR points.

Originally Posted by Jimgotkp View Post
No breakfast at Editions either for Plats?
Sadly, no.

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Don't forget that Marriott also has Club Marriott in Asia, which I believe is the only loyalty program (at least for now) that spans both legacy Marriott and legacy Starwood properties:

https://myclubmarriott.com

It seems to be primarily dining-based.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by Jimgotkp View Post
No breakfast at Editions either for Plats?
Good catch. I added that.
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Originally Posted by zoqfotpik View Post
I really like the elite guarantee on MR. In fact it is included in the terms and conditions of the program..not sure if SPG has something similar. In addition to room type, elites are also guaranteed on breakfast (select brands), 48-hour availability, and PAG. MR also has walk-out policy for where you will be re-accommodated to a similar hotel and paid US$100-200 plus up to 140k MR points.
Is there a form of a guarantee at SPG? I was surprised to see a thread on the SPG forum where a member booked a suite, didn't get it, and was only offered the difference in room rates.
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
Don't believe there there is a thread on this but, with some trepidation, it might be worthwhile to have a mostly objective list of differences of program differences at full service properties for those who are Plats or above.

1. Lounge access plus $10 voucher at JW/Ren/Marriott/Autograph properties vs. breakfast voucher at W/Westin/Sheraton/Tribute properties
2. Breakfast benefit at SPG resort properties vs. no benefit at MR properties
3. $100 room type guarantee at MR properties vs. no guarantee at SPG properties
4. Breakfast benefit at St. Regis/LC vs. no benefit at RC/Edition
5. A more defined suite benefit at SPG properties compared to MR properties
6. SNA for 100+ night SPG members
7. Points on all purchases at St. Regis/LC vs RC/Edition room rates only

I'm sure I'm missing some.

Of course, there will be properties that fail to deliver or exceed program wide benefits ...
Also no breakfast at Courtyard, Bulgari , Moxy and MVC.
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Also no breakfast at Courtyard, Bulgari , Moxy and MVC.
I was trying to capture the full service properties. I don't have enough experience to distinguish between Aloft/Element/Courtyard/Four Points.

Not much benefit at all from Bulgari ..
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
Not much benefit at all from Bulgari ..
I didn't know Bulgari was still around. I haven't heard anything about it in years.
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR View Post
Is there a form of a guarantee at SPG? I was surprised to see a thread on the SPG forum where a member booked a suite, didn't get it, and was only offered the difference in room rates.
None that I'm aware of.
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SPG gives 10 SNAs after 50 nights.
At 75 nights, you get Your24 and extra point/$ spent.
At 100 nights, you get an Ambassador with varying degrees of satisfaction.
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Some lower end Marriott properties only award points at half of the usual rate. With SPG, the amenity points option (if selected) is 250 at lower brands versus 500 points.

Marriott lounges are more likely to be closed on weekends. When this happens, some hotels (often large convention properties) are exceptions to the breakfast benefit.

It's not specific to Plats, but many Starwoods participate in Make a Green Choice and you can get 500 or 250 points per night (excluding the last night and sometimes with restrictions for long stays) for declining housekeeping.

You get limited elite benefits at Design Hotels, but some go above and beyond what is required. AFAIK some Design Hotels still don't participate in SPG at all.
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