5th Night Free - Non Consecutive Award Nights / Same Stay
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5th Night Free - Non Consecutive Award Nights / Same Stay
I assume I already know the answer to this, but would it at all possible to use the 5th award night free benefit with a paid stay in the middle?
The reason why I ask is that I have been invited to my company's sales club at a Ritz Carlton, Sunday-Thursday. I would like to arrive the Friday prior, stay 2 nights on an award, then leave the Sunday after, with another 3 nights on an award. I would love to get the "5th" night free, but I can't have the award nights be consecutive given the paid stay in the middle.
The reason why I ask is that I have been invited to my company's sales club at a Ritz Carlton, Sunday-Thursday. I would like to arrive the Friday prior, stay 2 nights on an award, then leave the Sunday after, with another 3 nights on an award. I would love to get the "5th" night free, but I can't have the award nights be consecutive given the paid stay in the middle.
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I assume I already know the answer to this, but would it at all possible to use the 5th award night free benefit with a paid stay in the middle?
The reason why I ask is that I have been invited to my company's sales club at a Ritz Carlton, Sunday-Thursday. I would like to arrive the Friday prior, stay 2 nights on an award, then leave the Sunday after, with another 3 nights on an award. I would love to get the "5th" night free, but I can't have the award nights be consecutive given the paid stay in the middle.
The reason why I ask is that I have been invited to my company's sales club at a Ritz Carlton, Sunday-Thursday. I would like to arrive the Friday prior, stay 2 nights on an award, then leave the Sunday after, with another 3 nights on an award. I would love to get the "5th" night free, but I can't have the award nights be consecutive given the paid stay in the middle.
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I tried with a hotel I stay at frequently and was shot down. I wanted to do three nights, gone for two and return for two. I asked the hotel, Marriott, the hotel manager and posted online several places and got nothing. If you do figure out a way please let us know.
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It's been a few years since I last did what alc shows, but Marriott has allowed us to mix paid and award nights within a single reservation for quite a long time (maybe since the beginning of their rewards program). For a 5th night free award, the restriction is that all the nights have to be within a single contiguous stay. It used to be that one had to call MR to get a customer service agent to piece together the "mixed" nights reservation, but from what alc shows above, it looks like we can now do it all online without requiring a call. ^
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Yes, but the point being missed here is it sound like the OP will need a folio for the paid middle night only for the expense report. The few times I needed something like this, I found generating my own folio to show the "company nights" kept things simple and didn't raise any concerns. As soon as there was anything of a personal nature every fine-tooth comb in the office came out.
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Yes, but the point being missed here is it sound like the OP will need a folio for the paid middle night only for the expense report. The few times I needed something like this, I found generating my own folio to show the "company nights" kept things simple and didn't raise any concerns. As soon as there was anything of a personal nature every fine-tooth comb in the office came out.
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Oh, trust me, I don't! AND I hold their feet to the fire to make sure I get what I'm due if they try to cheat me. It's just that some like to take the path of least resistance.
I once did a road trip with a co-worker, we shared a room and he submitted for the room bill. I submitted my expense report and it got bounced because I did not include any room charges (and wasn't due any reimbursement). So, to have a little fun, my response was: If you spend enough time at the hotel bar you don't need your own room! They never questioned me again! Don't ask questions you really don't want the answer to! LOL
I once did a road trip with a co-worker, we shared a room and he submitted for the room bill. I submitted my expense report and it got bounced because I did not include any room charges (and wasn't due any reimbursement). So, to have a little fun, my response was: If you spend enough time at the hotel bar you don't need your own room! They never questioned me again! Don't ask questions you really don't want the answer to! LOL
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Under a normal award night, there will be nothing on the Folio for each night stay itself, isn't it? So, I would expect in this case, the Folio will show just the Paid nights on it. The only info that can't change will be the Check-In and Check-Out date, anything else hotel can always split the charges however you want anyway, am I correct?
In this case, I would understand accounting thinking the total $s spent should be divided by the number of nights and then times the number of business nights. The beauty about math, you can usually spin the numbers to be whatever you want.
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Some basic questions about fifth night free, etc
For the current program of course, is there a limit to the number of consecutive nights that I can book to get night credit? Is there a similar limit for Starwood stays?
if I make a booking for say 30 nights , all award stays, will every fifth night be free?
i presume that that the fifth night will not be free if I book five consecutive award nights, one night at a time, in five seperate bookings?
thank you
if I make a booking for say 30 nights , all award stays, will every fifth night be free?
i presume that that the fifth night will not be free if I book five consecutive award nights, one night at a time, in five seperate bookings?
thank you
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1. No for Marriott. If you want the Starwood t&c's, check the Starwood forum.
2: Yes.
3. Correct.
2: Yes.
3. Correct.