Age of Hotels/Year Built
Is there any way you can see or find out what year a hotel was built? I am really trying to make a effort to not stay in crappy old hotels. Today I stayed in a brand new Spring Hill Suites and was blow away! I will never stay in the crappy Courtyard in that town again when I am on business!
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So those Autograph Collection properties, some of which were built over a 100-years ago, and now refurbished better then most new builts are now to be excluded from stay consideration.
Originally Posted by Marriott15
(Post 29549267)
Is there any way you can see or find out what year a hotel was built? I am really trying to make a effort to not stay in crappy old hotels. Today I stayed in a brand new Spring Hill Suites and was blow away! I will never stay in the crappy Courtyard in that town again when I am on business!
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Originally Posted by Srisarin
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So those Autograph Collection properties, some of which were built over a 100-years ago, and now refurbished better then most new builts are now to be excluded from stay consideration. What the poster wants is the condition of the hotel and maybe the layout, which can usually be figured out by looking at the property pictures and checking this site and TA. The TA comments are usually pretty useful and can differentiate between bad properties and older but still good properties. For example, while the Miami Airport CY might be newer, it's lack of insulation and location on the take-off path make it a bad property, while the Atlanta Executive Park CY was the first CY but is quiet, well maintained and has a good staff. Many people like it over the nearby Marriott Century Center. |
Originally Posted by Marriott15
(Post 29549267)
Is there any way you can see or find out what year a hotel was built? I am really trying to make a effort to not stay in crappy old hotels. Today I stayed in a brand new Spring Hill Suites and was blow away! I will never stay in the crappy Courtyard in that town again when I am on business!
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However, just because a hotel was built 20, 50, or even 100 years ago, there's no reason to assume it's a "crappy old hotel." In recent years, I've stayed in older properties -- first-generation Courtyards, historical Autograph Collection properties, cookie-cutter Marriott Hotels from the 1980s -- whose rooms and lobbies are in excellent condition. Also the "built" and "renovated" years are not always reliable. The "built" year can sometimes be the year the hotel was brought into the Marriott system, not the year when the building was built. The "renovated" year can be ten years go, but the hotel actually performs ongoing maintenance and refreshes that keep the hotel in excellent condition. I find that the best way to get warnings about hotels in poor condition is to read reviews at TripAdvisor, Marriott.com, and here on FlyerTalk. When multiple recent reviews mention that a hotel needs to be renovated, the reviews tend to be right. |
Originally Posted by CJKatl
(Post 29550715)
What the poster wants is the condition of the hotel and maybe the layout, which can usually be figured out by looking at the property pictures and checking this site and TA.
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 29550773)
You actually believe those pictures? Those are specifically staged, edited, and touched up to make the property look much much better than it really is. Not to mention they could be years old immediately after the hotel was refurbished. I defy anyone to actually find a room that looks like one in the pictures.
BTW, someone asked about rooms at the Majestic in KL recently in another thread. I went into the site to get the name of the room type and immediately smiled. The room pictured was exactly like my room. The Bangkok FS has very accurate pics, too. Come to think of it, the same can be said for the Bangkok Ren and CY. |
It's not the age of the hotel but the owner's willingness to maintain and refurbish when needed.
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For suburban and rural locations I use a few metrics to try to determine if the hotel is rundown:
For major metro areas you can usually find enough reviews to get a good idea. Major metro areas frequently tend to have a lot of older properties; however, many (if not most) are very well maintained. --Jon |
JW Phu Quc L’Hermitage Gantois Autograph Collection Renaissance Tuscany II Ciocco Resort among others (actually stayed at)
Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 29550773)
I defy anyone to actually find a room that looks like one in the pictures.
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OP didn't say "hotels over a certain age".
It's possible to exclude hotels built in the 80s without writing off all hotels older than that. |
I should of stated this in the beginning. This is for hotels in the middle of no where, not in bigger cities. The only options mainly are Courtyard, Springhill, and Fairfield Inn normally. If I stay in a metro city I don't have a issue if the hotel if it's older as I try to stay in regular Marriott's, renaissances , or AC Hotel's. Again this is in the USA.
It just seems like a Courtyard, Spring Hill, or Fairfield Inn that was built in the last two years for the places I have been going lately really have made my stay a lot better! Just the new look from the outside to the modern look on the inside. You can just tell the difference. But again that is just my personal opinion! I know some people like the older look and feel! |
Originally Posted by Marriott15
(Post 29553162)
I should of stated this in the beginning. This is for hotels in the middle of no where, not in bigger cities. The only options mainly are Courtyard, Springhill, and Fairfield Inn normally. If I stay in a metro city I don't have a issue if the hotel if it's older as I try to stay in regular Marriott's, renaissances , or AC Hotel's. Again this is in the USA.
It just seems like a Courtyard, Spring Hill, or Fairfield Inn that was built in the last two years for the places I have been going lately really have made my stay a lot better! Just the new look from the outside to the modern look on the inside. You can just tell the difference. But again that is just my personal opinion! I know some people like the older look and feel! |
Crystal Gateway Marriott- First Class Arlington, VA Hotels- GDS Reservation Codes: Travel Weekly
Originally Posted by Marriott15
(Post 29549267)
Is there any way you can see or find out what year a hotel was built? I am really trying to make a effort to not stay in crappy old hotels. Today I stayed in a brand new Spring Hill Suites and was blow away! I will never stay in the crappy Courtyard in that town again when I am on business!
For example, for the CC Gateway Marriott near me it shows the build and reno dates. You can search by region, country and state/city. |
I agree, OP. I'm suspicious of older, unrenovated or poorly maintained properties. I gauge the condition of the property by checking three things:
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Sometimes, even decent, well-maintained middle-aged Marriotts suffer in comparison with the newest properties. I’ve stayed at brand new properties that were so modern, stylish, and packed with up-to-date features (USB charging points everywhere, Internet-connected TVs, kitchen appliances that I’d like to have in my own home) that it can be a letdown to stay at a five-year-old property afterward.
On the other hand, I have encountered a relative few “crappy old hotels” in the Marriott family, and most of my bad experiences fall into three categories. • Older Fairfield Inns - Overall, I find that the combination of the cheaper materials and methods used for construction, furnishings, and décor—plus their exposure to the families and itinerant workers who tend to frequent Fairfields—leave them looking kind of worn and dumpy after about four years. If the property’s construction or renovation date is older than that, chances are the property will be disappointing. • First generation TownePlace locations - Perhaps these were supposed to be “cheap and cheerful” when the brand was launched in the ’90s (?), but they have definitely not aged well. First-gen locations which have been substantially renovated are still iffy propositions, but I’ll avoid unrenovated ones if at all possible. • First generation Residence Inns - You know—the kind of Residence Inns that look like a ’70s/’80s suburban apartment complex. I’ve never stayed at one that I would consider to be even remotely “nice”. As with early TownePlace locations, renovations seem to be focused on public areas with room updates being minimal at best. • Old FS Marriotts - Particularly in secondary markets or neglected parts of major markets. Locations that come to mind offhand are Rancho Cordova, CA, Albuquerque Pyramid, and Houston Hobby. You get the sense that these were nice hotels at one point but have been allowed to become rather frowsy. |
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