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Old Mar 17, 2018, 5:59 am
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Originally Posted by iflyjetz
For bottled water, I'd like to see a cheaper alternative than plastic containers. Paper?



The package is made primarily of paper, sourced from certified, responsibly-managed forests where new trees replace the ones that are harvested.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 8:11 am
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.... and for a second I thought: "wow, funny if a hotel were going to buck the trend of some hotels going cash-free" and wanting "plastic" but no cash for the bills.

They still want "plastic" -- as in plastic credit cards.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by dayone



The package is made primarily of paper, sourced from certified, responsibly-managed forests where new trees replace the ones that are harvested.
What coats the primarily-paper/paper containers? And the lids/caps are made of what?

Hotels' "environmental" initiatives aimed at customers often seem to include a plan for a service/product downgrade of sorts.
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Old Mar 17, 2018, 9:18 am
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I loved it in South Africa when the hotels provided water in re-usable glass bottles! ^
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
It's probably most PR. It's pretty easy to eliminate something if you don't actually have it.
Exactly, Edition customers are likely pretty progressive and understand the damage being done by plastic. Marriott will likely think that doing this at Edition addresses the 'problem' they have on the PR front. When in fact if they did this at say Marriott or Courtyard they would have a far greater impact due to the number of properties but also reaching a client base that may not be as understanding about the impact of plastic on environment and climate change.
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by itsaboutthejourney
Exactly, Edition customers are likely pretty progressive and understand the damage being done by plastic. Marriott will likely think that doing this at Edition addresses the 'problem' they have on the PR front. When in fact if they did this at say Marriott or Courtyard they would have a far greater impact due to the number of properties but also reaching a client base that may not be as understanding about the impact of plastic on environment and climate change.
Ah, that's why I didn't understand what Edition and Marriott are doing - I'm a stupid insensitive Marriott elite.

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Old Mar 18, 2018, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by DELee
I'm a stupid insensitive Marriott elite.

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Hopefully you are neither stupid or insensitive, rather you a Marriott elite who will tell the company you spend a lot of money at that they should be doing something good for the environment. ^
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
What coats the primarily-paper/paper containers? And the lids/caps are made of what?
Linings are usually aluminum foil or polyethylene. Caps can be made out of plastic derived from sugarcane. All of the products can be recycled.

If interested, you can read more about how packaging giant TetraPak is moving to 100% renewable products: TetraPak | Our Packs | Pick the Pack that Grows back
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by writerguyfl
All of the products can be recycled.
The problem is that even though these can be recycled, the recycling rate is abysmally low and they still end up clogging the oceans.

Reusable is always better than recyclable.
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by writerguyfl
Linings are usually aluminum foil or polyethylene. Caps can be made out of plastic derived from sugarcane. All of the products can be recycled.

If interested, you can read more about how packaging giant TetraPak is moving to 100% renewable products: TetraPak Our Packs Pick the Pack that Grows back
All CAN be recycled, but normally not. For example, what can I do with a TetraPak that will actually get it recycled? I doubt there are many communities in the US that will do so because it is mixed material.

And regardless of whether one believes in or opposes manmade climate change, there's no question that plastic is a serious waste. I wish there was an option in all Marriott's to request no water bottles or toiletry bottles in the room. Tap water is just fine ...
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Old Mar 18, 2018, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR
I wish there was an option in all Marriott's to request no water bottles or toiletry bottles in the room. Tap water is just fine ...
I just don't use them. That's about the best you can do.
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Old Mar 19, 2018, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
I just don't use them. That's about the best you can do.
Disagree, you can tell Marriott that you oppose such waste and ask them to implement a sustainable solution. Remind them you vote with your $$.

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Old Mar 19, 2018, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
I would guess they're referring to Styrofoam.
I would guess you're referring to EPS white foam. Styrofoam is XPS, trademarked by the Dow Chemical Corp, and is used for the continuous insulation (CI) on walls, roofs, etc in the commercial construction market, typically.
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Old Mar 19, 2018, 11:46 am
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I've been pleased with the rooms that have both a trash AND recycle can available. Now what happens afterwards is unknown, but I feel I've done my part. Of course, not using the water bottles might be more appropriate. I do believe it wise to have them there for those that need/want it. Tap water can vary greatly from one property to the next.
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Old Mar 19, 2018, 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
The problem is that even though these can be recycled, the recycling rate is abysmally low and they still end up clogging the oceans.
Originally Posted by C17PSGR
All CAN be recycled, but normally not. For example, what can I do with a TetraPak that will actually get it recycled? I doubt there are many communities in the US that will do so because it is mixed material.
I guess I don't understand why this is a problem. Maybe I'm misreading tone, but you both seem upset at TetraPak. They don't control whether an end user is responsible enough to recycle a recyclable product.
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