Marriott is denying me points
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 38
Marriott is denying me points
Hi all,
i had a recent stay with Marriott in which i had in excess of 10 rooms booked under my name/account. When i saw the amount of points that were posted to my rewards account, i called MR to say that there are points missing.
I was told that per terms and conditions, i was only allowed to receive points for 3 rooms per stay. She spoke to a supervisor and told me "there's nothing i can do about it, it's in the terms and conditions".
I dont understand the logic behind being penalized for spending more at Marriott.
Had i known, i would have gone to a less expensive hotel. I made that spend expecting to receive points for it and they are flat out denying me, won't even put a supervisor on the phone with me.
Given my status and annual spent, i am shocked.
Does anybody have any suggestion how to go about getting the missing points?
I doubt calling the hotel would be any help, anytime i call a hotel directly about points they refer me back to calling MR directly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
i had a recent stay with Marriott in which i had in excess of 10 rooms booked under my name/account. When i saw the amount of points that were posted to my rewards account, i called MR to say that there are points missing.
I was told that per terms and conditions, i was only allowed to receive points for 3 rooms per stay. She spoke to a supervisor and told me "there's nothing i can do about it, it's in the terms and conditions".
I dont understand the logic behind being penalized for spending more at Marriott.
Had i known, i would have gone to a less expensive hotel. I made that spend expecting to receive points for it and they are flat out denying me, won't even put a supervisor on the phone with me.
Given my status and annual spent, i am shocked.
Does anybody have any suggestion how to go about getting the missing points?
I doubt calling the hotel would be any help, anytime i call a hotel directly about points they refer me back to calling MR directly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
Yes, read the T's and C's of the MR program-especially when making such a large and unusual reservation. There are many threads here that talk about benefits available only to the room the member is staying in and only earning points for a max of three rooms. That's actually pretty generous IMHO. Sorry you didn't know this upfront, but I cannot see any way that you would get points not owed to you.
The thread title is very misleading. You aren't being denied anything. You got exactly what you earned.
The thread title is very misleading. You aren't being denied anything. You got exactly what you earned.
#4
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA USA
Programs: UA 1KMM, Bonvoy LTE+A, HH D, Nat'l EE, Hertz Plat, Avis PC
Posts: 3,710
I'm sure you're disappointed, but as others have pointed out this rule is quite clear. If you're angry, it should be at yourself for not doing a little research rather than assuming you could get points for as many rooms as you wanted.
#6
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Jakarta
Programs: *wood & marriott plat, Hyatt, Accor
Posts: 410
Hi all,
i had a recent stay with Marriott in which i had in excess of 10 rooms booked under my name/account. When i saw the amount of points that were posted to my rewards account, i called MR to say that there are points missing.
I was told that per terms and conditions, i was only allowed to receive points for 3 rooms per stay. She spoke to a supervisor and told me "there's nothing i can do about it, it's in the terms and conditions".
I dont understand the logic behind being penalized for spending more at Marriott.
Had i known, i would have gone to a less expensive hotel. I made that spend expecting to receive points for it and they are flat out denying me, won't even put a supervisor on the phone with me.
Given my status and annual spent, i am shocked.
Does anybody have any suggestion how to go about getting the missing points?
I doubt calling the hotel would be any help, anytime i call a hotel directly about points they refer me back to calling MR directly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
i had a recent stay with Marriott in which i had in excess of 10 rooms booked under my name/account. When i saw the amount of points that were posted to my rewards account, i called MR to say that there are points missing.
I was told that per terms and conditions, i was only allowed to receive points for 3 rooms per stay. She spoke to a supervisor and told me "there's nothing i can do about it, it's in the terms and conditions".
I dont understand the logic behind being penalized for spending more at Marriott.
Had i known, i would have gone to a less expensive hotel. I made that spend expecting to receive points for it and they are flat out denying me, won't even put a supervisor on the phone with me.
Given my status and annual spent, i am shocked.
Does anybody have any suggestion how to go about getting the missing points?
I doubt calling the hotel would be any help, anytime i call a hotel directly about points they refer me back to calling MR directly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
#7
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
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Posts: 12,159
If you're booking over 10 rooms, you should call it a meeting/conference/convention and get some extra points for that (and maybe negotiate a lower room rate).
#8
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,275
There are times when an individual member might book a second or third room, typically for a large or multigenerational family. So Marriott provides points for up to three rooms, although the member is personally only occupying one of them. Even with three rooms, there's still just a single elite qualifying night.
See Rewards Terms & Conditions and look for the section that begins, "A Member is eligible to receive Points/Miles for a qualifying stay at participating Marriott brand hotels or Ritz-Carlton hotels for his/her room and up to two additional rooms."
As already noted in this thread, there are other approaches you might want to consider in the future.
#9
Join Date: Oct 2001
Programs: LTP, PP
Posts: 8,698
While the OP is dead wrong, I get his frustration.
#10
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 38
Love the replies "well it's in terms and conditions", same attitude as Marriott employees, not helpful at all.
Sure, i can take some blame for not having read fine print, but my point was that it is illogical to punish a paying customer for spending more because i can physically only occupy one room. If i'm paying for all the rooms I should be rewarded for the money i spend not for square footage my body occupies.
If i buy 15 rooms or 15 people buy 1 room, it's the same revenue to the hotel so why should I...the extremely loyal customer who has spent a fortune and proven loyalty above and beyond, not earn the same amount of points as 15 people? I'm not asking for more, i'm asking for fair.
This is the opposite of fair, sorry but that's how i see it.
It will def determine where and how I spend my money in the future.
Sorry for the venting, just very frustrated, I could have split up the group in so many different ways to earn more points.
Sure, i can take some blame for not having read fine print, but my point was that it is illogical to punish a paying customer for spending more because i can physically only occupy one room. If i'm paying for all the rooms I should be rewarded for the money i spend not for square footage my body occupies.
If i buy 15 rooms or 15 people buy 1 room, it's the same revenue to the hotel so why should I...the extremely loyal customer who has spent a fortune and proven loyalty above and beyond, not earn the same amount of points as 15 people? I'm not asking for more, i'm asking for fair.
This is the opposite of fair, sorry but that's how i see it.
It will def determine where and how I spend my money in the future.
Sorry for the venting, just very frustrated, I could have split up the group in so many different ways to earn more points.
#11
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: DL DM, National EE, Hertz PC, IHG PL, Bonvoy Amb
Posts: 1,337
Love the replies "well it's in terms and conditions", same attitude as Marriott employees, not helpful at all.
Sure, i can take some blame for not having read fine print, but my point was that it is illogical to punish a paying customer for spending more because i can physically only occupy one room. If i'm paying for all the rooms I should be rewarded for the money i spend not for square footage my body occupies.
If i buy 15 rooms or 15 people buy 1 room, it's the same revenue to the hotel so why should I...the extremely loyal customer who has spent a fortune and proven loyalty above and beyond, not earn the same amount of points as 15 people? I'm not asking for more, i'm asking for fair.
This is the opposite of fair, sorry but that's how i see it.
It will def determine where and how I spend my money in the future.
Sorry for the venting, just very frustrated, I could have split up the group in so many different ways to earn more points.
Sure, i can take some blame for not having read fine print, but my point was that it is illogical to punish a paying customer for spending more because i can physically only occupy one room. If i'm paying for all the rooms I should be rewarded for the money i spend not for square footage my body occupies.
If i buy 15 rooms or 15 people buy 1 room, it's the same revenue to the hotel so why should I...the extremely loyal customer who has spent a fortune and proven loyalty above and beyond, not earn the same amount of points as 15 people? I'm not asking for more, i'm asking for fair.
This is the opposite of fair, sorry but that's how i see it.
It will def determine where and how I spend my money in the future.
Sorry for the venting, just very frustrated, I could have split up the group in so many different ways to earn more points.
The best advice I think is to negotiate before the booking and to know the rules.
If you have friends with MR accounts, maybe MR will let you credit some of those rooms to their accounts. call and ask and report back
#14
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Love the replies "well it's in terms and conditions", same attitude as Marriott employees, not helpful at all.
Sure, i can take some blame for not having read fine print, but my point was that it is illogical to punish a paying customer for spending more because i can physically only occupy one room. If i'm paying for all the rooms I should be rewarded for the money i spend not for square footage my body occupies.
If i buy 15 rooms or 15 people buy 1 room, it's the same revenue to the hotel so why should I...the extremely loyal customer who has spent a fortune and proven loyalty above and beyond, not earn the same amount of points as 15 people? I'm not asking for more, i'm asking for fair.
This is the opposite of fair, sorry but that's how i see it.
It will def determine where and how I spend my money in the future.
Sorry for the venting, just very frustrated, I could have split up the group in so many different ways to earn more points.
Sure, i can take some blame for not having read fine print, but my point was that it is illogical to punish a paying customer for spending more because i can physically only occupy one room. If i'm paying for all the rooms I should be rewarded for the money i spend not for square footage my body occupies.
If i buy 15 rooms or 15 people buy 1 room, it's the same revenue to the hotel so why should I...the extremely loyal customer who has spent a fortune and proven loyalty above and beyond, not earn the same amount of points as 15 people? I'm not asking for more, i'm asking for fair.
This is the opposite of fair, sorry but that's how i see it.
It will def determine where and how I spend my money in the future.
Sorry for the venting, just very frustrated, I could have split up the group in so many different ways to earn more points.
Generally speaking, loyalty programs are benefits for the member and not anyone and everyone they know. Although not hard to conceive, I would guess far less than 1% of guests book more than one room.
#15
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 38
As for the 1%, i guess you're right because in all these years i never encountered this issue which means i never booked more than 3 rooms at a time ever.