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I've never asked but have been upgraded much of the time since making platinum.
Example: Current trip is 4/4 (Boscolo Milan, Boscolo Venice, Marriott Copenhagen, Courtyard Stockholm). |
Originally Posted by qofmiwok
(Post 28799585)
I am a Marriott/SPG Gold, Hilton Silver, and IHG platinum, all from credit cards.
I wouldn't even bother to ask for anything on IHG Plat or Hilton Silver. I mean, you can I suppose, but we all know they aren't real statuses. On Marriott Gold and SPG Gold, I'd expect the hotel to get the basics of your room right and give you a fairly desirable room. IME, the "upgrade statuses" that still exist are SPG Platinum (higher tier the better), the top Hyatt status (whatever used to be Diamond but now has some weird name), and maybe that paid IHG status (Royal Ambassador something-or-other). I hear Kimpton regulars at specific properties still do really well, as do Fairmont regulars at specific properties. Marriott and Honors aren't really upgrade-centric programs. Many properties have relatively few true suites to begin with. Sure, I used to run into one every now and then as a Platinum, but I never expect it (and almost never get it) as a Gold. I do have a week at a Boscolo hotel in 2018 (Rome), so tai4de2's post has me mildly hopeful, although I'll still be a Gold - not a Plat. Maybe a room-category mini-upgrade or a nice view, perhaps. In any case, I hear it's a great hotel so I'm looking forward to it either way. |
To amplify this, SPG Gold has an enhanced room in the same category as what was booked as its published benefit. Golds are not entitled to upgrades at Starwood, although apparently Marriott Gold and Platinum are treated the same (IME badly) in terms of upgrades, but YMMV.
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In my experience, the last 20-25 stays (between 2016 and now) in both Marriott and SPG, I was offered an upgrade about 80% of the time. Other times, I kindly and respectfully asked the rep if there is any upgrade available today, and there always has been for me. My advice is, it doesn't hurt to ask, but don't beg or fight either. Also, the earlier in the day you check-in (between 3pm to 6pm), the better chance you have at an upgrade. I have never been denied an upgrade-- except at Hilton properties as a Hilton Gold.
I am a Marriott and SPG Gold. I book a basic 1 king room. This always gets upgraded to the usual 1 bedroom suite with the preferred view. Rarely if sold out I get a corner room or junior suite. At one point I was upgraded to a bi-level suite. My stays mostly happen on Fridays/Saturdays/Holidays. I also always request 4pm late checkout. And these take place in major North American cities. |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 28811092)
I do have a week at a Boscolo hotel in 2018 (Rome), so tai4de2's post has me mildly hopeful, although I'll still be a Gold - not a Plat. Maybe a room-category mini-upgrade or a nice view, perhaps. In any case, I hear it's a great hotel so I'm looking forward to it either way.
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Originally Posted by jtwiz
(Post 28801751)
I agree with this completely. Sure, if traveling for business and I land a nice upgrade, I am happy. But I never ask for one. I did recently get a horrible room in LA and was told it was due to the bed type guarantee. It was the only King bed left. I said I don't care what type of bed I have and they moved me to a giant 2 Queen bed room overlooking the pool, with a balcony.
But when I am traveling somewhere out of the ordinary with Mr jtwiz, then I may call/email in advance asking for an upgrade. For example, when we went to The Glasshouse in Edinburgh (on a paid stay), I asked for an upgrade as we were there on my birthday and got an amazing suite. |
Originally Posted by CommentatusMaximus
(Post 28813196)
Mind me asking what you say in the email? I would like to pre-arrange upgrades when they matter but not sure what to say that doesn't sound demanding or pretentious. I usually just wait until check-in but getting it done ahead of time would be great.
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I travel for leisure with week long stays on average but at multiple Marriotts for 4-8 weeks at a time. Currently Gold, hitting Plat soon, travel mostly Asia but have done most continents. I've come to not expect any kind of upgrade unless I ask. I usually check in late evening and if it's important to me, I'll ask in advance.
I have a few different tricks. My most recent one was after a problem arose while I was at a JW. I spoke to the GM to offer feedback and suggestions on how to improve. In addition to a small bit of compensation (which I didn't ask for), he offered to call the GMs of my upcoming stays to warn them of me / upgrade me as a favor to him. In my current hotel they upgraded me to the second biggest room in the hotel and gave me a platinum welcome present & hand written note, despite being only Gold. Will be Platinum next month though ;) |
Originally Posted by prince.ali
(Post 28811537)
... My advice is, it doesn't hurt to ask, but don't beg or fight either....
Nearly two decades ago when I first started traveling, I was a regular guest at the Monrovia Holiday Inn. Based on my status, I was entitled to a suite upgrade, if available. Every FDC was happy to upgrade me to a suite, except one guy. He tried his best not to give away those suites. You'd think he was paying for them out of his pocket. After this happened a few times, I insisted on the suite and he would reluctantly relent. He always looked so unhappy :D ) A few years later, I met him at the Omni hotel in Los Angeles trying the same foolishness, but I this time, my upgrade was not subject to availability, but rather I used an upgrade certificate that had been applied at the time of booking. Again, he looked so unhappy :( |
Some related discussion can be found here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...pgrades-2.html Posts#24 makes good conclusion |
What I find interesting as a Plat Premier and occasionally staying at SPG properties as a mere Plat is that SPG properties almost always take a suite upgrade as a requirement. I never have to ask at an SPG property. At a Marriott property -- where I have a higher status -- I often have to ask.
That being said, my upgrade rates to suites are fairly comparable at both brands although I haven't been tracking (I'm switching back to focusing on Marriott properties now because I'm a little concerned about PP renewal -- not that it matters!) |
Originally Posted by CommentatusMaximus
(Post 28813196)
Mind me asking what you say in the email? I would like to pre-arrange upgrades when they matter but not sure what to say that doesn't sound demanding or pretentious. I usually just wait until check-in but getting it done ahead of time would be great.
I will say I tend to ensure I book the level room that is the least I can live with. In a city, I don't care that much (view, no view, etc.) But on a beach vacation, I like to have a water view so I book it. And if I get an oceanfront upgrade vs. partial ocean view that was booked - that's great. |
Originally Posted by C17PSGR
(Post 28816975)
What I find interesting as a Plat Premier and occasionally staying at SPG properties as a mere Plat is that SPG properties almost always take a suite upgrade as a requirement. I never have to ask at an SPG property. At a Marriott property -- where I have a higher status -- I often have to ask.
Marriott's version of it ("Based on room availability at check-in, we'll do our best to upgrade your room. Upgrades are subject to availability identified by each hotel"), is pretty weak, and similar to Hilton's. Starwood's is much stronger ("An upgrade to best available room at check-in — including a Standard Suite.") Will be interesting to see the 2018 go-forward language...I'm not optimistic. |
Originally Posted by UA-NYC
(Post 28823641)
Marriott's version of it ("Based on room availability at check-in, we'll do our best to upgrade your room. Upgrades are subject to availability identified by each hotel"), is pretty weak, and similar to Hilton's.
Starwood's is much stronger ("An upgrade to best available room at check-in — including a Standard Suite.") |
Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman
(Post 28824260)
Yet the results are exactly the same--Starwood properties are infamous for claiming no upgradable rooms are "available", even when they're available for sale or paid upsell.
I run legit upgrades (not just a higher floor) ~50% of the time w/SPG, year over year...and I never ask. |
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