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SkiAdcock May 18, 2016 4:52 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 26646485)
If the hotel cancels the OP's reservation but he shows up, yes it will cost the hotel something, but that amount is probably less than the rate for which the hotel can sell the room. If there are no rooms available in town, getting the compensation but being walked to a Motel6 fifty miles away would not be a good outcome for the OP.

Agree.

desi May 18, 2016 7:46 pm

I would get MR involved (let them handle it) and once stay is over (yes, after it is over), send a very strong letter to CEO/Chairman's office demanding action against G and/or property. Most people dont do the last step and hence shody practices of such GM continues.

Voodoo Daddy May 19, 2016 6:38 am

Is the consensus seriously that this hotel will cancel the OP's reservation if he doesn't reply to this one email? I find this extremely unlikely. As has been previously mentioned, one email is often not received or missed or ignored. Canceling a reservation because of this would result in scores of angry would-be-guests. In addition, the email says nothing about canceling anything. It just says the deposit will be taken. I would absolutely ignore this email.

Kacee May 19, 2016 7:46 am

Everything after the first two responses in this thread is essentially surplus. Sharon and MrVker laid out the blueprint for how to handle this situation.

I hope we get a report from OP how this turns out.

Orange County Commuter May 19, 2016 7:50 am

I would just call Marriott and get them involved. I would not bother emailing or calling the GM, he/she has already shown that he is not really too concerned with customer service.

freeflyin May 19, 2016 8:36 am


Originally Posted by Kingston (Post 26642152)
I don't see anywhere in the OP where the GM is looking for approval. He says he's going to charge the card and to contact him if there's a different form of payment.
I would ignore it. Email gets ignored all the time and this one doesn't ask for acknowledgment.
If you go, you've got a room. If there's no room, OP is platinum and it will cost the hotel dearly.
If the OP cancels, he's got the terms he originally agreed to for a charge back.

This would be my approach to this issue. He didn't mention anything about a rate change or cancellation if you don't respond- if you cancel and he has charged your card,it seems that you have an easy case to dispute.

StevensFirstPrints May 19, 2016 11:34 am


Originally Posted by Voodoo Daddy (Post 26649396)
Is the consensus seriously that this hotel will cancel the OP's reservation if he doesn't reply to this one email? I find this extremely unlikely. As has been previously mentioned, one email is often not received or missed or ignored. Canceling a reservation because of this would result in scores of angry would-be-guests. In addition, the email says nothing about canceling anything. It just says the deposit will be taken. I would absolutely ignore this email.



I get where you are coming from and I agree with you. But I can say from personal experience working at an IHG property, that there are some truly inconsiderate, careless operations managers out there that will make this terrible call and cancel the reservation.

VickiSoCal May 19, 2016 1:55 pm

Does the op want to make a point, or does the op want a room?

joshua362 May 19, 2016 2:27 pm

Exactly, I wouldn't respond if none is required, cancel if I really wanted in accordance with the original terms, then complain afterwards (if so inclined).

sjpmurph01 May 19, 2016 8:44 pm

It's a shame OP is staying at CY and not FI, as this could be an interesting opportunity to invoke the 100% guarantee at check-out.

dayone May 20, 2016 1:25 am


Originally Posted by VickiSoCal (Post 26651645)
Does the op want to make a point, or does the op want a room?

It's reassuring to know that I'm not the only one who thinks this way.

A hotel stay should not have a winner and a loser.

ohmark May 20, 2016 7:17 am


Originally Posted by VickiSoCal (Post 26651645)
Does the op want to make a point, or does the op want a room?

Under the circumstances, maybe both?

pinniped May 20, 2016 10:36 am


Originally Posted by StevensFirstPrints (Post 26650939)
I get where you are coming from and I agree with you. But I can say from personal experience working at an IHG property, that there are some truly inconsiderate, careless operations managers out there that will make this terrible call and cancel the reservation.

My concern is that any hotel with the stones to send such an unethical, offensive email to begin with is the same hotel that would cancel your reservation and deny that it existed at all when you tried to check in. You'd then be in an email/phone hassle-fest with corporate, and nothing would get figured out in time for you to actually get your room.

Not quite as bad, but I've had Marriotts flip my post-paid stay to a prepaid at check-in. While this is less of an issue - one more about the date posted to the credit card than any need or ability to cancel the stay - it's still frustrating that hotels think they can change the rules with zero notice. They know they've got you by the you-know-what and they're exploiting that to their advantage. We usually hope that our long-term relationship with the Marriott brand is more advanced than this, and we're disappointed when we learn it isn't.

The dumb part about this is that it's not like the dates for the Indy 500 are a mystery. I mean, we know the exact dates for the races for many years to come. If this airport Marriott thought that the race was a good excuse to gouge guests with sh*tty terms, why did they load the $109 cancellable rate to begin with?

Often1 May 20, 2016 10:45 am

Search here in FT and you will see all of the threads surrounding "major events." This is far from the worst. Many of them are, "agree to a much higher rate or your room is cancelled" or "sorry, but your room is cancelled."

As others note, it's easy to give advice to someone else about what someone else ought to do. But, if what the property really wants is for the OP (and others) not to respond and then to use that as a reason (a poor reason, but a reason) to cancel and rent the room for $500+, the question to OP is what is Plan B?

What to do if the room is cancelled, the property is full and everything in the area is oversold?

Voodoo Daddy May 20, 2016 10:58 am


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 26656041)
Search here in FT and you will see all of the threads surrounding "major events." This is far from the worst. Many of them are, "agree to a much higher rate or your room is cancelled" or "sorry, but your room is cancelled."

As others note, it's easy to give advice to someone else about what someone else ought to do. But, if what the property really wants is for the OP (and others) not to respond and then to use that as a reason (a poor reason, but a reason) to cancel and rent the room for $500+, the question to OP is what is Plan B?

What to do if the room is cancelled, the property is full and everything in the area is oversold?

I know what I would do, and it would be very memorable to hotel staff and anyone within earshot of the front desk at the time I tried to check in. Granted, that might not change the fact that I don't have a room. But I promise that the GM would wish he hadn't cancelled my reservation.


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