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Originally Posted by dayone
(Post 24761225)
When I'm traveling for and/or representing my employer, I try to maintain the ethical high road. That also is what I expect of those who work for me. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24760544)
I work for company X and use company Y code when it's better than ours. Never get checked for ID or even asked. I do about 200 nights a year, 3-5 nights a week so there's ample opportunity to ask me, the FD that is.
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Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24760544)
I work for company X and use company Y code when it's better than ours. Never get checked for ID or even asked. I do about 200 nights a year, 3-5 nights a week so there's ample opportunity to ask me, the FD that is.
It's things like this that cause properties to be sticklers on IDs and the such and as more people abuse the program, we will see more properties invoke insane rules like seeing company names on company IDs (not unreasonable, but not always possible). I have heard some claim just because they show rates online without verification, that they can be considered publicly available rates (i.e. Government rates). |
Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
(Post 24762226)
Is that ok with Company X?
I could see where this could be an issue with smaller companies where Marriott might send reports to the travel teams where I was in hotels 200 nights but only used our rate 100 nights. But we're a monster organization so it won't matter. |
Our corporate policy allows us to use our corporate rate when traveling on leisure. It's in our internal t&c's and we have a letter from marriott corporate sales management. They simply request that we indicate non-business trip as personal or leisure when reserving a room or when asked by FD personnel.
The only time I use another corporate rate (that of my client), is when THEY book the travel on my behalf (in which case their corporate travel policy is in effect). They almost always include a letter and temp ID I can use for the rental cars and hotels (if not, a quick call fixes it). |
Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24763485)
My company has thousands of guys in hotels nightly, so our rate won't be impacted so the few times I use the other companies rate, no biggie and we all win.
I love how we can always justify what we do. |
Originally Posted by lougord99
(Post 24765942)
Or the few times the thousands of others do the same as you???
I love how we can always justify what we do. |
Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24766632)
Whatever is cheaper, live with it and move on.
Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24766632)
I would love to see you do your taxes.
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Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24763485)
Oh yeah the customer is paying so the cheaper rate is always best. My company has thousands of guys in hotels nightly, so our rate won't be impacted so the few times I use the other companies rate, no biggie and we all win.
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Of course the hotel wins, I am there for 4 nights every week, otherwise I would chose a different hotel that offered a cheaper rate, most likely a Marriott. Been LP for a few years, doing the BIB time and paying high rates or low rates. My expense reports are per diem and airfare is corp billed. Basically it's hotel per nights and per diem. Not much to fudge there but I ain't justifying it, someone else is. I just do it every week, year after year. Marriott loves my loyalty and I appreciate their haggle free checkin when using some other rate.
If Marriott busted my chops on it I would move on to Hilton, oh yeah, got status there too, or Westin or Hyatt, have status there too and use different company rates. Like I said whatever is cheaper for the customer. That's it. Not even a second thought ever. Even checked in last week and checkin in DC said oh I see your company x guy and gave her my company y ID, LOL, guess she really cared. I think your pissed because I don't care and either does the checkin person. Just get me my room and here's my CC? See you next week and the next 8 weeks after that. In this case, I have used Government rate, company y, company x, company z codes at same hotel for over 17 weeks, not a peep. Heck I even used an AARP rate, lol, see you next week. |
it's a Federal offense to impersonate a US Gov't employee but then again as you say you don't care and it seems Marriott doesn't either (per your post) but it's still a Fed offense so perhaps we'll see ya behind bars then we'll see who cares.
Originally Posted by ZZYZXROAD
(Post 24766871)
Of course the hotel wins, I am there for 4 nights every week, otherwise I would chose a different hotel that offered a cheaper rate, most likely a Marriott. Been LP for a few years, doing the BIB time and paying high rates or low rates. My expense reports are per diem and airfare is corp billed. Basically it's hotel per nights and per diem. Not much to fudge there but I ain't justifying it, someone else is. I just do it every week, year after year. Marriott loves my loyalty and I appreciate their haggle free checkin when using some other rate.
If Marriott busted my chops on it I would move on to Hilton, oh yeah, got status there too, or Westin or Hyatt, have status there too and use different company rates. Like I said whatever is cheaper for the customer. That's it. Not even a second thought ever. Even checked in last week and checkin in DC said oh I see your company x guy and gave her my company y ID, LOL, guess she really cared. I think your pissed because I don't care and either does the checkin person. Just get me my room and here's my CC? See you next week and the next 8 weeks after that. In this case, I have used Government rate, company y, company x, company z codes at same hotel for over 17 weeks, not a peep. Heck I even used an AARP rate, lol, see you next week. |
Originally Posted by leeky
(Post 24766897)
it's a Federal offense to impersonate a US Gov't employee but then again as you say you don't care and it seems Marriott doesn't either (per your post) but it's still a Fed offense so perhaps we'll see ya behind bars then we'll see who cares.
Behind bars for someone asking for a Gov't Rate at a Marriott Check In, dude that's as good as it gets. Call the A team. Relax man, it's gonna be alright. Liberals have scared you to death I see. |
My, my, my, what an interesting thread this has become.
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As a consultant, we use different company codes all the time, sometimes our own, sometimes the clients, sometimes government (you know, because sometimes we WORK for the government).
leeky seems to be on some high horse for some odd reason... |
There should be no problem using a client code (unless prohibited by hotel contract). Unfortunately, not many are privy to the contract terms and not everyone at the company is "authorized" to extend usage to a non-employee. There is a local CY that has a sign posted at the front desk that specifically states our company contractors are NOT allowed to use the company rate (and yes, our company was called out specifically!). Personally made us sound cheap.
Often, when bringing in candidates for interviews, we've had to provide a property with a letter stating names and dates of arrival. And if we were paying for any part of the stay, specify what we were covering (typically room & tax only). Along with the department code to be billed. |
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