LNF discussions
#1
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LNF discussions
I'm starting this thread in order for FTers to share or discuss about Marriott LNF.
#2
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I believe Marriott is getting some OTA to change IP settings
I'm looking for LNFs for my upcoming US road trip in Dec. I "thought" I found something to file a claim, filed a claim form. This is for 2 hotels, 1 in UT and 1 in NV.
After a long wait, got the first denial - stating that Marriott has dropped the price to match the competing site As a courtesy they will modify my reservation to lower price. This is the last thing I need! They saw my claim and lower the rate of their own and be 'nice' to me to adjust my rate.
Lesson learned - from now on, make 2 ressies under 2 names and if this happens I can file a LNF.
Then for another hotel:
Used the same website to file claim, now they claim that they couldn't find the rate - so I wrote back and sent in screenshots (I know they have to see the rate but I said it may help them to locate the price). They said they used 3 devices and the lowest rate is same as Marriott.com. I asked
This happened to be when I was filing free night with IHG, and I was happy that Marriott didn't do this shady practice. Obviously they also start doing it now.
Another absolutely annoying thing: I made 2x1 night reservations and they said 'for my convenience' they merged the 2 ressies without letting me know! Merged and denied, how nice!
Any hint on how to avoid this? I remembered that there was a site that blocks US IP access it and my claim was denied because of that.
TIA!
After a long wait, got the first denial - stating that Marriott has dropped the price to match the competing site As a courtesy they will modify my reservation to lower price. This is the last thing I need! They saw my claim and lower the rate of their own and be 'nice' to me to adjust my rate.
Lesson learned - from now on, make 2 ressies under 2 names and if this happens I can file a LNF.
Then for another hotel:
Used the same website to file claim, now they claim that they couldn't find the rate - so I wrote back and sent in screenshots (I know they have to see the rate but I said it may help them to locate the price). They said they used 3 devices and the lowest rate is same as Marriott.com. I asked
This happened to be when I was filing free night with IHG, and I was happy that Marriott didn't do this shady practice. Obviously they also start doing it now.
Another absolutely annoying thing: I made 2x1 night reservations and they said 'for my convenience' they merged the 2 ressies without letting me know! Merged and denied, how nice!
Any hint on how to avoid this? I remembered that there was a site that blocks US IP access it and my claim was denied because of that.
TIA!
#3
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Longshot : If that's the issue, you could mention in the comments that the site only works from outside the US, and then point them to a free VPN they can use to access it from inside the US.
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Thanks! I did get a VPN that get me an US IP address. In fact the rate is even better than the one I previously filed.
The problem with sites only for outside US is that it violates the T&C about 'must be publicly available'. Regional restriction made it not publicly available.
Not that MR LNF team really respects the T&C of LNF IMO - that they merged my ressies without my consent.
The problem with sites only for outside US is that it violates the T&C about 'must be publicly available'. Regional restriction made it not publicly available.
Not that MR LNF team really respects the T&C of LNF IMO - that they merged my ressies without my consent.
#5
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LNF claim with website where you call to get a secret rate?
I have seen a few sites recently where you have to call up to get the best rate.
For Marriott LNF claims with a phone number you have to make the reservation then enter a Marriott confirmation number. Anyone have any experience with this sort of system?
For Marriott LNF claims with a phone number you have to make the reservation then enter a Marriott confirmation number. Anyone have any experience with this sort of system?
#6
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I don't know if the LNF team has the Xmas spirit or I've been very lucky.
Yesterday's claim I got a response within 2 hours of filing. I thought that was good until I received today's claim 28 minutes after filing.
And both were accepted!
Yesterday's claim I got a response within 2 hours of filing. I thought that was good until I received today's claim 28 minutes after filing.
And both were accepted!
#7
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To answer my own question: They won't call up anyone to verify a rate. It has to be online. So the other option I might try: You can LNF a "phone" rate, but you must have a booking through the other channel already. In the case of prepaid rates I'm not keen to try this. Supposedly I would have got a res with a lower rate and then Marriott would have honored the LNF claim? But what happens to the other booking?
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To answer my own question: They won't call up anyone to verify a rate. It has to be online. So the other option I might try: You can LNF a "phone" rate, but you must have a booking through the other channel already. In the case of prepaid rates I'm not keen to try this. Supposedly I would have got a res with a lower rate and then Marriott would have honored the LNF claim? But what happens to the other booking?
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So if you made a ressie at marriott.com, and then call that hotel and obtain a lower rate than your online rate, then you can file a claim.
#11
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IF you make a LNF claim based on a competing site (say Hotelsabc.com) and days later that site further lowers their price after the claim was was accepted by Marriott do you have to book another reservation and fill out another LNF request to get 25% of the new lower price found (Still lower than Marriott's current rate) or can you simply have them lower your price on your older reservation?
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IF you make a LNF claim based on a competing site (say Hotelsabc.com) and days later that site further lowers their price after the claim was was accepted by Marriott do you have to book another reservation and fill out another LNF request to get 25% of the new lower price found (Still lower than Marriott's current rate) or can you simply have them lower your price on your older reservation?
#13
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IF you make a LNF claim based on a competing site (say Hotelsabc.com) and days later that site further lowers their price after the claim was was accepted by Marriott do you have to book another reservation and fill out another LNF request to get 25% of the new lower price found (Still lower than Marriott's current rate) or can you simply have them lower your price on your older reservation?
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My first time using LNF.
In the last few days, I filed 2 claims (different hotels).
First one accepted within minutes via Marriott's email.
Second claim was denied with a generic form email letter. This claim was for 3 nights. Marriott dot com showed rates in US$, while competing OTA showed it in JPY. I used that day's for-ex exchange rate as guide to my claim. It showed Marriott rate was 4,500 JPY higher for the 3 nights.
I countered with an email by asking which T/C that my claim does not meet. 3 days later, no response.
Is this usual, the way Marriott handles claim? What else can I do? I do have screen shots.
In the last few days, I filed 2 claims (different hotels).
First one accepted within minutes via Marriott's email.
Second claim was denied with a generic form email letter. This claim was for 3 nights. Marriott dot com showed rates in US$, while competing OTA showed it in JPY. I used that day's for-ex exchange rate as guide to my claim. It showed Marriott rate was 4,500 JPY higher for the 3 nights.
I countered with an email by asking which T/C that my claim does not meet. 3 days later, no response.
Is this usual, the way Marriott handles claim? What else can I do? I do have screen shots.
#15
Join Date: Feb 2013
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My first time using LNF.
In the last few days, I filed 2 claims (different hotels).
First one accepted within minutes via Marriott's email.
Second claim was denied with a generic form email letter. This claim was for 3 nights. Marriott dot com showed rates in US$, while competing OTA showed it in JPY. I used that day's for-ex exchange rate as guide to my claim. It showed Marriott rate was 4,500 JPY higher for the 3 nights.
I countered with an email by asking which T/C that my claim does not meet. 3 days later, no response.
Is this usual, the way Marriott handles claim? What else can I do? I do have screen shots.
In the last few days, I filed 2 claims (different hotels).
First one accepted within minutes via Marriott's email.
Second claim was denied with a generic form email letter. This claim was for 3 nights. Marriott dot com showed rates in US$, while competing OTA showed it in JPY. I used that day's for-ex exchange rate as guide to my claim. It showed Marriott rate was 4,500 JPY higher for the 3 nights.
I countered with an email by asking which T/C that my claim does not meet. 3 days later, no response.
Is this usual, the way Marriott handles claim? What else can I do? I do have screen shots.
By the way in my experience getting a response within a few minutes is very unusual. The shortest time I ever had was an hour. I average 7 -10 hours.