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Originally Posted by TheMan
(Post 23717486)
The lack of the overabundance of business travelers. And if you have been to a true resort, like the Camelback Inn in Scottsdale the differences are glaring. Tennis, multiple golf courses, cycling and other activities and events and décor that provide a different feel. The World Center is weak at best compared to other properties. The largest part here is the convention center. The feeling of business is everywhere. Banners hanging around for conventions in house, people running around with badges, etc. How do you get that level of relaxation you are looking for in this environment?
PS I am totally going, free breakfast or not. |
Originally Posted by ohmark
(Post 23718703)
One of my few FT moments of glory: inducing the Marriott Concierge to publicly back down on our very forum. He had declared that despite not having the word "resort" in its name, it was, nevertheless, a resort and could skate on the benefits of a regular non-resort hotel. But then...
See posts beginning at no. 28 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...nica-ca-2.html |
Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
(Post 23718944)
Hmmm, husband has a business stay for a convention booked at the Camelback next month. Does that make it not a resort?
PS I am totally going, free breakfast or not. Being an S.O. tagging along for a conference never sucks... :cool: |
Originally Posted by ohmark
(Post 23718703)
One of my few FT moments of glory: inducing the Marriott Concierge to publicly back down on our very forum. He had declared that despite not having the word "resort" in its name, it was, nevertheless, a resort and could skate on the benefits of a regular non-resort hotel. But then...
See posts beginning at no. 28 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...nica-ca-2.html SPG hotels are nice but their footprint is too small. IHG's Platinum status and benefits are a joke. Most of my colleagues like Hilton more since they feel Marriott nickles and dimes you and cut corners in rooms/buildings. The HHonors point structure is terrible though. So, no one is perfect... |
Why is breakfast excluded at resorts?
Does it cost more to provide a continental buffet at a resort? Can they sell the buffet for more, and the opportunity cost is larger? Are "resorts" often in higher cost areas where restaurant space is at a premium? As far as I can tell average rates at resorts are not that much lower than suburban business hotels, and occupancy seems high during peak seasons. |
Originally Posted by johnden
(Post 23726614)
Why is breakfast excluded at resorts?
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Originally Posted by ohmark
(Post 23727410)
IMO it's an archaic derivation which makes little sense today. Lounges/breakfasts were provided as a convenience for business travelers (i.e. road warriors). Thus, lounges were only open Monday-Friday (because, apparently, no business travelers are allowed to travel on weekends) and no lounges or breakfasts at resorts (because, apparently, a business traveler shouldn't be at a resort).
Furthermore, those that do not wish to provide breakfast could always opt out like the few Marriott hotels that instead of providing breakfast, provide 1,000 points in lieu of same, e.g., Copley Square Marriott, JW Essex, etc. Still, it would be more than is presently the case. |
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