Marriott Rewards 2014 Hotel Category Changes
#151
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: San Diego
Programs: IHG Spire Amb, HH Diamond, DL Diamond and 1MM
Posts: 3,610
Goodbye Marriott!
I got the Marriott CC almost a year ago. I had a nice stay at an AC property in Madrid, but other than that Marriott has been a real disappointment. There just aren't any properties in the cities that I visit! I'm looking at a stay in July in the Anchorage Downtown Marriott. It's going from cat 6 to cat 7. I'm booking an award stay there now, and then it's "Goodbye Chase Marriott CC" and "Goodbye Marriott"!
BTW, I'm keeping my Chase IHG hotel card. IHG has the hotels where I go, and the credit card has no silly "cat 5 and under" restriction on the annual free night cert. Much better value with the Chase IHG VISA Reserve CC.
BTW, I'm keeping my Chase IHG hotel card. IHG has the hotels where I go, and the credit card has no silly "cat 5 and under" restriction on the annual free night cert. Much better value with the Chase IHG VISA Reserve CC.
#152
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Programs: WN A+ CP, UA 1MM/*A Gold, Mar LT Tit, IHG Plat, HH Dia
Posts: 6,284
My MR Visa card is coming up for renewal soon. For years I've considered the $85 fee a small bargain for the cat 1-5 cert but now I see it as a wash, at best. I may well cancel it.
#153
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Marriott, you're dead to me.
If you're lucky enough to frequent the properties that went down a category, good for you. For me, this devaluation is a deal breaker.
They'll lose a lot more customers than they will gain. What were they thinking?
They'll lose a lot more customers than they will gain. What were they thinking?
#154
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
Ditto. All of the hotels I've used my annual cat 1-5 cert at for the past FIVE YEARS are at cat 6-7 now. And the handful of places I was thinking of spending the next cert at just went to cat 6, too.
My MR Visa card is coming up for renewal soon. For years I've considered the $85 fee a small bargain for the cat 1-5 cert but now I see it as a wash, at best. I may well cancel it.
My MR Visa card is coming up for renewal soon. For years I've considered the $85 fee a small bargain for the cat 1-5 cert but now I see it as a wash, at best. I may well cancel it.
#155
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,720
Actually, no. Been a member for a very long time and I have a long memory. CJ makes some good points, but Marriott isn't any old business. It is one that you trust when you are away from hearth and home. There are not many more intimate connections than one that undertakes to make you welcome in a new environment and the rewards program is partly an extension of that in my opinion.
In addition, it should be clear that other programs don't stick it to their members or see them as disposable as does Marriott. OK, except, perhaps for HHonors!
In addition, it should be clear that other programs don't stick it to their members or see them as disposable as does Marriott. OK, except, perhaps for HHonors!
#156
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 219
Actually, no. Been a member for a very long time and I have a long memory. CJ makes some good points, but Marriott isn't any old business. It is one that you trust when you are away from hearth and home. There are not many more intimate connections than one that undertakes to make you welcome in a new environment and the rewards program is partly an extension of that in my opinion.
In addition, it should be clear that other programs don't stick it to their members or see them as disposable as does Marriott. OK, except, perhaps for HHonors!
In addition, it should be clear that other programs don't stick it to their members or see them as disposable as does Marriott. OK, except, perhaps for HHonors!
Courtyard PUXI in shanghai at 30k points for 5 nights is a nice deal.
#157
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AMEX Platinum, Hyatt Diamond, RC/Marriot Platinum, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 388
Looks like a big devaluation to me. Tons of properties going up in category, without any renovations, changes, or improvements to the property itself. Cat 5 certificates are now useless unless they are raised to a max of Category 6 or allow us the option to use points to augment the certificates to get a higher category room.
#158
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,337
The hits just keep coming. With the mass increase of Cat5s to Cat6. Why not just bump all Cat6-9 up one Cat as well? Seriously MR, we know you want a Cat10 for that round 50k redemption.
I'm also considering dumping the CC if they don't up the free night to Cat6 (which you know they won't).
I'm also considering dumping the CC if they don't up the free night to Cat6 (which you know they won't).
#159
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
After you cancel the dummy reservation, those points are immediately refunded. I normally will call a few weeks or months in advance to attach the points to the real reservation.
#160
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Monterey, California
Programs: Affiliated with all, participate in some
Posts: 2,188
Here is a link to my Loyalty Traveler post with a table of the 208 hotels in category 5 moving up to category 6. You may want to book some free night certificates before the April 8 change.
The list is organized by State and City and Country for a more user-friendly list than the Marriott pdf shows.
The list is organized by State and City and Country for a more user-friendly list than the Marriott pdf shows.
#161
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2003
Location: AA Plat / UA NOTHING / Alaska 75K / Hyatt Diamond / SPG LT Plat / Marriott Gold / Priority Club Plat / Hertz Pres
Posts: 24,707
Here is a link to my Loyalty Traveler post with a table of the 208 hotels in category 5 moving up to category 6. You may want to book some free night certificates before the April 8 change.
The list is organized by State and City and Country for a more user-friendly list than the Marriott pdf shows.
The list is organized by State and City and Country for a more user-friendly list than the Marriott pdf shows.
Because the credit card free night cert isn't worth squat in any resort / vacation location, we've been using mine at the local Marriott - in Redmond, WA. It was a cat 4 two years ago. Then it went to cat 5 last year. Now, cat 6. It's a location that's never more than $100 per night on the weekend.
Have to agree with an earlier poster - Marriott points are turning into Marriott pesos very quickly.
Calling Chase to cancel the card. It's worthless now.
#162
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
There used to be two great Cat 5s in downtown Portland, Oregon - the Courtyard Downtown (surprisingly nice) and the RI Riverplace - both gone up to 6. The airport hotels are ok for just that - when you have an early flight, but they're usually under $100/nt anyway.
Certificates quickly seeming useless for me, too. Why would anyone go out of their way to do a Megabonus promotion anymore?
Certificates quickly seeming useless for me, too. Why would anyone go out of their way to do a Megabonus promotion anymore?
#163
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 52
UGH - I just started playing the megabonus game about 5-6 months ago and started really liking the cat 1-5 certs and have earned and used a bunch of them (several through megabonus). Now pretty much most of the hotels I'm interested in are moving up to Cat 6. I currently have 1 stay to go to earn another 1-5 certificate and am now pausing to wonder if it will be worth it. I can earn a night at SPG also with one more stay so I might use my upcoming stay for SPG instead.
Plus I am going to redeem a Cat 1-5 travel package in the next couple of days and had planned to upgrade it when I earn a few more points over the next 3-6 months. Not going to be possible anymore as every single hotel in the area I'm looking up is moving up to Cat 6-7. I'll be lucky to snag the Cat 6 that I didn't really want if I manage to get my Chase points transferred over in time.
Plus I am going to redeem a Cat 1-5 travel package in the next couple of days and had planned to upgrade it when I earn a few more points over the next 3-6 months. Not going to be possible anymore as every single hotel in the area I'm looking up is moving up to Cat 6-7. I'll be lucky to snag the Cat 6 that I didn't really want if I manage to get my Chase points transferred over in time.
#164
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,386
They're still useful for taking road trips or if you can stay at suburban properties. But yeah, most properties in city centers are now Cat 6 or above. And wasn't the highest category only 7 a few years ago? There were definitely very, very few 8s.
#165
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,028
Marriott just needs to stop these certs and just give out points like any other program. They are now mostly useless and cashing them in for points is a hit/miss hassle. Nothing left in cat. 5 anymore.