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sammyindc Jan 5, 2013 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983332)
This has zippo to do with Marriott and everything to do with OP's employer. For whatever reason OP's employer couldn't come to terms with Marriott and the contract was cancelled or not renewed.

OP had no authority to use his company's code beyond the contract date and Marriott did what any vendor would do, it cancelled the reservations which, from its perspective, were fraudulently booked.

OP should be talking with his own corporate travel people about a solution because it's clear they're not talking with him. Either they've got a contract with someone else or they don't and the rates are what they are.

Maybe time to start the job hunt?

I think OP mentioned reservations were made prior to the contract not being renewed.

fireworksboy Jan 5, 2013 4:51 pm


Originally Posted by GoPhils (Post 19982922)
I'm only seeing $149 at the FI...

However there are 2 hotels in Champaign under $100. 50 minute drive which is kinda far when you're already traveling, but certainly less than the 2.5 hours referenced in the OP.

AAA rate is $85 at the FI there. I learned a long time ago that spending $50 of my own money on AAA membership would pay vast dividends down the road considering our company keeps a close eye on our expenses as well.

GoPhils Jan 5, 2013 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by blast00 (Post 19983322)
it was marriott, not the hotel. also I am not sure where that guy got his image from but none of those hotels are available for this week - maybe you searched today?

Yes they are (but as I mentioned I don't see the $104 rate). Even so, have you tried invoking your 48-hour platinum guarantee?

You also never said what your price limit was.

sophiegirl Jan 5, 2013 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by blast00 (Post 19983322)
it was marriott, not the hotel. also I am not sure where that guy got his image from but none of those hotels are available for this week - maybe you searched today?

I spoke again with customer care, they are saying that they have no control over the rates individual properties charge and although they side with me and understand what went wrong they cannot do anything about it...

1) The images show availability for this weekend, not when you need a room.

2) you need to understand this - Marriott customer care cannot help you. As your company did not renegotiate the rate, the rate no longer exists, so you no longer have a room. Take the 10K in points and start figuring a new plan.

3) Many of us travel with company restrictions, and most companies have policies w/ $$ limits and preferred brands. But when there aren't any hotels available that meet the policies, it is hard to understand that there is not an exception plan in place from your company that can help you. Quite honestly, it is not Marriott's responsibility to do so, it should come from your employer.

4) We would like to help you, but you are only telling us what you can't do! If you are willing to share where you can stay and at what price....maybe someone can come up with something.

But again - the corp rate thing - dead as a dodo if your company didn't renegotiate, and although it seems unfair, it isn't all Marriott's fault.

Often1 Jan 5, 2013 5:07 pm


Originally Posted by sammyindc (Post 19983354)
I think OP mentioned reservations were made prior to the contract not being renewed.

Doesn't matter. If he used a code which became invalid because his employer and/or Marriott chose not to continue the relationship, those reservations are gone. OP's biggest personal concern ought to be that Marriott doesn't shut down his account.

BKKLEE Jan 5, 2013 5:11 pm

the OPs stated option was a 5-hour commute...........personally I'd take money out of my pocket to avoid a daily 5-hr commute (which has its own costs too), but that's just me............


Originally Posted by Mr. Vker (Post 19983265)
I wouldn't want to have money come out of my pocket for business travel.


NJUPINTHEAIR Jan 5, 2013 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by blast00 (Post 19983322)
it was marriott, not the hotel. also I am not sure where that guy got his image from but none of those hotels are available for this week - maybe you searched today?

I spoke again with customer care, they are saying that they have no control over the rates individual properties charge and although they side with me and understand what went wrong they cannot do anything about it...

Your loss Blast. Your complaint about the corportate contract not being renewed should focus on the responsible party = your employer, not Marriott. Guess your Platinum status will go to waste the rest of 2013. :rolleyes:

NJUPINTHEAIR Jan 5, 2013 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983475)
Doesn't matter. If he used a code which became invalid because his employer and/or Marriott chose not to continue the relationship, those reservations are gone. OP's biggest personal concern ought to be that Marriott doesn't shut down his account.

I agree! ^

BKKLEE Jan 5, 2013 5:14 pm

+1


Originally Posted by NJUPINTHEAIR (Post 19983502)
Your complaint about the corportate contract not being renewed should focus on the responsible party = your employer, not Marriott.


Mr. Vker Jan 5, 2013 7:39 pm

I know in the Amex Plat Travel world that FHR Rates can expire at the end of the year-those rates can include benefits, rates etc. They won't book you WITH FHR rates and benefits past the expiration. They will book public rates.

I do find some fault with the system here-of which Marriott is part-for taking the reservations and rates past expiration. I think they should honor them if the OP had confirmed reservations. The rate should have been unavailable past expiration.

Mr. Vker Jan 5, 2013 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by BKKLEE (Post 19983500)
the OPs stated option was a 5-hour commute...........personally I'd take money out of my pocket to avoid a daily 5-hr commute (which has its own costs too), but that's just me............

True-if that was the last resort. The approved rates for the op's company seem to be very low if $104 exceeds them.

CPRich Jan 5, 2013 7:44 pm

I agree this is a problem with OP's company. Marriott provided a room under a contractual arrangement, and that arrangement was cancelled by their counterparty. It's pretty hard to expect them to be liable for continuing the terms of the contract.

I put a check-in date of Monday 1/7 into Kayak and found 29 properties in Bloomington available Monday-Friday, 22 of which are under $100.


OP. to answer your question:
"closest available property is 2.5 hours away" and "everything is sold out through march of 2012" are what "seems off". Can your provide some additional parameters within which you are operating that make the dozens of properties available in town every week not feasible?

NJUPINTHEAIR Jan 5, 2013 8:39 pm


Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 19984164)
OP. :

Can your provide some additional parameters within which you are operating that make the dozens of properties available in town every week not feasible?

Probably because they are not a Marriott family property! :D

I know it is circular reasoning, but what do you expect from the OP! :p

AATrout Jan 5, 2013 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983332)
This has zippo to do with Marriott and everything to do with OP's employer. For whatever reason OP's employer couldn't come to terms with Marriott and the contract was cancelled or not renewed.

OP had no authority to use his company's code beyond the contract date and Marriott did what any vendor would do, it cancelled the reservations which, from its perspective, were fraudulently booked.

OP should be talking with his own corporate travel people about a solution because it's clear they're not talking with him. Either they've got a contract with someone else or they don't and the rates are what they are.

Maybe time to start the job hunt?

Absolutely on point. If you don't have contract rates like me for a lot of my stays, work or otherwise then you take one for the team /employer/family.

USirritated Jan 6, 2013 2:32 am


Originally Posted by blast00 (Post 19982244)
Hi all,

I am going to vent here because I have just had a terrible terrible experience with marriott. I am working in bloomington, IL a rather small area, with not very many hotel properties of any brand. I travel there weekly, and have been doing so for quite some time. Back in september of 2012 I booked every week out with this 1 marriott I stay at, booking it out until midway through 2013 at my corporate rate.... Everything is good through 2012... my next stay was supposed to start this monday 1/7/12, but I got a call from marriott customer care today saying that they can no longer honor any of my rates because the corporate contract wasn't renewed and I would have to pay 200% more. I was going to say OK I will figure it out, but then she proceeded to say that she couldn't even book my reservations again at that new rate. I spoke to 2 levels of customer care, and the GM at the hotel... nobody can help me but someone from reservations will call me on Monday (which is too late...) I couldn't get e-mail addresses or phone numbers, just a few names. So basically, they weren't even giving me the opportunity to contact them back. She offered me a measly 10,000 points

She kept saying "I am sorry there is nothing I can do for you" = I am shi*t out of luck.

Not to mention they can't put me in any of the surrounding properties because everything is sold out through march of 2012.

I would expect she could force the hotel to honor the rate I reserved, or for marriott to compensate the difference or to place me in another property or anything. Instead the closest available property is 2.5 hours away in chicago.

Thanks for adding 5 hours to my daily commute marriott.

The part about the 5 hour daily commute does not compute on common sense grounds, if for no other reason, sorry. For there to be such a vast hotel room shortage within a 2 1/2 hours radius not to be able to find a hotel room would be tantamount to the Super Bowl being in town.


Originally Posted by Mr. Vker (Post 19983265)
I wouldn't want to have money come out of my pocket for business travel.

If my company limit was $100/night and my alternatives are to pay $29/night (just a number I chose to make this point) out of my own pocket or have a 5 hour daily commute, I would pay the $29/night out of my own pocket, at least on the short term, before making other arrangements for dates further out.


Originally Posted by blast00 (Post 19983322)
it was marriott, not the hotel. also I am not sure where that guy got his image from but none of those hotels are available for this week - maybe you searched today?

I spoke again with customer care, they are saying that they have no control over the rates individual properties charge and although they side with me and understand what went wrong they cannot do anything about it...

I would not be so sure that it was MI and not the hotel. It is possible that the hotel was going through their rooms control/provisioning procedures and noticed a reservation which was incorrect, and notified MI to contact the OP. This would seem to be the case if the OP actually only got this call on Saturday 1/5 for a Monday 1/7 reservation.

Customer care is correct, MI customer care certainly does not set the rates for all Marriott properties all across the country, those rates are generally made locally.


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983332)
This has zippo to do with Marriott and everything to do with OP's employer. For whatever reason OP's employer couldn't come to terms with Marriott and the contract was cancelled or not renewed.

Disagree. I am sure both the employer and MI know more than a few days, or even a few weeks in advance of contracts which will not be renewed, since I am sure negotiations for contract renewal start fairly far in advance, and certainly not within the last week before expiration. No, not so far in advance as September (when OP made the reservations) for a contract expiring on December 31, but I would be surprised if negotiations did not take place 60-90 days before expiration (meaning somewhere between October 1 and November 1, and that both OP's employer and MI were well aware of the final disposition of the contract before December 1. If both the employer and MI were aware more than even 2 weeks before the rez was scheduled to begin, both the employer and MI were at fault for not notifying the OP that the reservation would not be honored (although I would say that the employer had a higher responsibility in this regard than MI, out of a desire for the employer not to disrupt the regular flow of business which requires employees to be where they are supposed to be, on time, to conduct business). Whether the contract was canceled or not renewed is almost beside the point. Both the employer and MI had a responsibility to communicate with the OP, because both have a primary relationship with the OP, the employer for obvious reasons, and MI for no other reason than the OP is a Plat, and a guest.


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983332)
OP had no authority to use his company's code beyond the contract date and Marriott did what any vendor would do, it cancelled the reservations which, from its perspective, were fraudulently booked.

It is a HUGE leap to say that the OP used his company's code fraudulently back in September when the rez was made. In the wildest stretch of imagination, it would be fraud without intent, and what would be the benefit to the OP from that? It would not enrich the OP in any way. Again, communication is key here, both MI and the employer needed to communicate to the OP, and since neither did, the OP had no way to know.


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983332)
OP should be talking with his own corporate travel people about a solution because it's clear they're not talking with him. Either they've got a contract with someone else or they don't and the rates are what they are.

....snip....

This is the squirly part about the OP's post. I have a hard time believing that the employer's travel department did not know this a good deal in advance, and did not bother to tell their employees that the MI relationship was ending, and the new hotel relationship is now with _________.


Originally Posted by GoPhils (Post 19983424)
Yes they are (but as I mentioned I don't see the $104 rate). Even so, have you tried invoking your 48-hour platinum guarantee?

You also never said what your price limit was.

I think that since Marriott waited until the last minute to contact the OP to cancel, that MI and/or the hotel should be on the hook under the Plat rules. If they do not have room for him at that hotel, then they owe the OP compensation.

Squirrly part number two from the OP, what is the price limit, and why has OP avoided answering this question at least a couple of times in this thread.


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 19983475)
Doesn't matter. If he used a code which became invalid because his employer and/or Marriott chose not to continue the relationship, those reservations are gone. OP's biggest personal concern ought to be that Marriott doesn't shut down his account.

Chances are that the code was not invalid back in September, when the reservations were made, and IMO, because MI waited until just two days before the rez, ON A WEEKEND, makes MI's position on this pretty shaky.


Originally Posted by NJUPINTHEAIR (Post 19983502)
Your loss Blast. Your complaint about the corportate contract not being renewed should focus on the responsible party = your employer, not Marriott. Guess your Platinum status will go to waste the rest of 2013. :rolleyes:

MI is certainly not responsible for not renewing a contract if the employer would not agree to a new contract. For MI not doing anything about existing reservations a good deal in advance of when MI knew the contract would become invalid is another matter entirely.




Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 19984164)
I agree this is a problem with OP's company. Marriott provided a room under a contractual arrangement, and that arrangement was cancelled by their counterparty. It's pretty hard to expect them to be liable for continuing the terms of the contract.

I put a check-in date of Monday 1/7 into Kayak and found 29 properties in Bloomington available Monday-Friday, 22 of which are under $100.


OP. to answer your question:
"closest available property is 2.5 hours away" and "everything is sold out through march of 2012" are what "seems off". Can your provide some additional parameters within which you are operating that make the dozens of properties available in town every week not feasible?

Again, this is way too odd, and since OP has not provided the information asked for, that's squirrly on the part of the OP.


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