Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Aug 18, 2018, 4:19 pm
#5611
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AA MM PP, MR LT Plat, Globalist
Posts: 998
Old Cat 8 -> New Cat 5 is totally not a "similar" mapping.
I had made plans to stay at a New Cat 6 (SPG) hotel.
Giving me the same deal as someone who redeemed 30000 points less is messed up too!
At the very least, Marriott should refund me the 30000 points that I overpaid due to their bungled communication. Even then, I feel this is just throwing a crumb to me - a poor little thing.
This is what happens when a company starts monopolizing.
I had made plans to stay at a New Cat 6 (SPG) hotel.
Giving me the same deal as someone who redeemed 30000 points less is messed up too!
At the very least, Marriott should refund me the 30000 points that I overpaid due to their bungled communication. Even then, I feel this is just throwing a crumb to me - a poor little thing.
This is what happens when a company starts monopolizing.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:28 pm
#5612
formerly smoaky
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 300
Making Cat 8 into Cat 5 is absolutely not similar mapping. I'm screwed. But I'm cancelling all my Marriott cards, going to open a Hyatt one and move all my spending and stays to Hyatt.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:31 pm
#5613
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: SPG Plat
Posts: 459
Class action?
Maybe someone should contact KELLER ROHRBACK LLP who did the Wells and VW class actions..
Maybe someone should contact KELLER ROHRBACK LLP who did the Wells and VW class actions..
Last edited by silverforumsurf; Aug 18, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Aug 18, 2018, 4:35 pm
#5614
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: UA-1K, MM, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium
Posts: 4,423
Aug 18, 2018, 4:38 pm
#5615
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
I paid $350 to get enough points to upgrade my Cat 7 to a Cat 8 a few days after purchasing a travel package. The rep I spoke with said I would get a higher points-based certificate in return. It turns out you knew that this wasn't the case and took my money and points anyway. Marriott you lost my business. You need to upgrade Cat 8s to the new Cat 6s otherwise this is deeply unfair. Bad.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:40 pm
#5616
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EWR/PHL/BWI
Posts: 4,412
Who is this happy lady? 
Aug 18, 2018, 4:43 pm
#5617
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Hyatt Glb, MR Plat
Posts: 2,576
Any word on the single night cat 1-5 certificates?
Aug 18, 2018, 4:46 pm
#5618
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM
Posts: 23,293
Just tell me now when off-peak is for Cat.5 (30k) and I won't be as furious about being hosed out of 30k points for upgrading.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:49 pm
#5619
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LAX
Posts: 2,851
The hotel I am interested in is the new category 5 in Hong Kong. Before the system went down, I checked the "new " points. Every day of the week and every month showed 35k point. No off peak and no peak even into 2019.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:52 pm
#5621
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 305
Overall, this is not what I predicted/expected and I think Marriott have scored an own goal here. I actually think that the mappings are not wholly unreasonable (or at least, within the realm of fairness) but what completely flummoxes me is the treatment of Cat 6, Cat 8 and Tier 1-3 certificate holders. I have no skin in that particular game but it's pretty underhand unless they're planning 30k point rebates.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:53 pm
#5622
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 8
Attached certificates
Any news on what will be happening to attached certificates if you want to detach them? Same treatment as above or are they receiving different treatment?
Aug 18, 2018, 4:58 pm
#5623
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE, Marriott - Titanium
Posts: 324
There goes my Hawaii vacation in November...Cat 8 certificate down to 5.
Aug 18, 2018, 4:59 pm
#5624
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 700
Anyone have the complete list of new categories? That website provided before seems not to work today.
An alternate source/webpage, or spreadsheet would be fine.
thx.
An alternate source/webpage, or spreadsheet would be fine.
thx.
Aug 18, 2018, 5:04 pm
#5625
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Philadelphia
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 1,780
