Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Aug 13, 2018, 8:29 pm
#5146
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
Yours was done on Weekend Aug 10. Today is Aug 13. With things now coming down the wire I am not sure information on the weekend or Friday which was August 10, the date of issuance of your cert, are even relevant.
If you have read my long post regarding the experiences I had this morning, you would read about the rep I got this morning initially reissued new cert with Aug 13 date but he took the trouble to IMMEDIATELY canceled it and redid one backdated to June 1st. If he is not being told to pay attention of keeping the original expiration date, I doubt he would go back to fix his inadvertent mistake which would not have been a mistake based on the usual practice, but apparently the unofficial extension mechanism is now being stopped.
Aug 13, 2018, 8:35 pm
#5147
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
Aug 13, 2018, 8:37 pm
#5148
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
Why would he take the trouble to cancel the cert issued with today's date and then reissue a cert that is backdated? The 3rd rep I talked to, said to me that "it looks like he returned the original cert to you." But it isn't the original cert because the number is different.
Aug 13, 2018, 8:43 pm
#5149
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
Because it takes a more careful rep to actually remember what they are told to do as from today. Being doing things the old way for so many times, it is hard for them to remember what they have to change their ways of doing things starting today.
Though the argument we have here is actually not much meaningful as whatever it is, the time left to still tweak whatever one wants to tweak, is not much. Marriott already sent out emails that system would be sporadically down starting on the 15th, 3 days before the lock down begins.
I bet that email has pushed many finally sprang to action - I got a busy signal trying to call Australia (actually it is in Malaysia), and then have to wait when calling China. Those 2 numbers have reps picking up the call less than 2 min just a few nights ago before weekend came.
Though the argument we have here is actually not much meaningful as whatever it is, the time left to still tweak whatever one wants to tweak, is not much. Marriott already sent out emails that system would be sporadically down starting on the 15th, 3 days before the lock down begins.
I bet that email has pushed many finally sprang to action - I got a busy signal trying to call Australia (actually it is in Malaysia), and then have to wait when calling China. Those 2 numbers have reps picking up the call less than 2 min just a few nights ago before weekend came.
Aug 13, 2018, 8:55 pm
#5150
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EWR/PHL/BWI
Posts: 4,412
I'm getting lost with all the changes.... 
Aug 13, 2018, 9:08 pm
#5151
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: IHG Platinum Elite, AS MVP Gold 75K, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 219
Talking to reps is like talking to one another here, unclear and in different directions. The amount of memos the call center reps have been getting related to this merger has been absurd (just ask them!), and from the times I've called about various reservations and added an inquiry about this, I've gotten a different answer every time. We'll know when we know, I guess...
Aug 13, 2018, 10:04 pm
#5152
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 24
Hi I'm in the same boat. I have a Cat6 7-night MTP attached to Courtyard Kaua'i at Coconut Beach for last week of June 2019, which is currently 30K, but going down to 25K after Aug 18. I just called them to detach my Cat6 7-night MTP (kept it at Cat6, and kept the hotel reservation), with plan to re-book the reservation and re-attach my MTP after Sept 18 and get 30K points back.
However, I realized that I may have made a mistake. My reservation is in June 2019, which subject to On-Peak and Off-Peak pricing. Did I shot myself in the foot?
However, I realized that I may have made a mistake. My reservation is in June 2019, which subject to On-Peak and Off-Peak pricing. Did I shot myself in the foot?
Maybe I should just re-attach the 7-night Cat6 back to it, despite it dropping to 25K after Aug 18, to avoid potentially running into the On-Peak and Off-Peak pricing issues.
Last edited by DelAbbot; Aug 13, 2018 at 10:12 pm
Aug 13, 2018, 10:20 pm
#5153
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,383
on/off peak pricing only comes into effect for bookings made NEXT year. Until then, it's all standard pricing. Doesn't matter if the reservation is for June 2019.
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- On August 18, standard redemption rates for hotel Categories 1-7 will go live. Peak, off-peak and Category 8 redemption rates will be introduced in early 2019."
Aug 14, 2018, 7:41 am
#5156
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 825
I have 240k points. Is there anything with regards to travel packages I should try to take advantage of before Aug 17?
Aug 14, 2018, 7:51 am
#5157
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 87
One last question from me, and I'm probably way over thinking it.... I have 540K points. We're considering going to Hawaii or the Westin in northern Costa Rica. Both would be higher Cat properties. Think I'm better off just straight up buying 1x T5 with max'd miles, so I'm covered for whoever the properties land in the new chart? Or is there any way to buy 2x Cat 1-5 certs, getting double the miles, and then cash one certificate out after the merge to upgrade the other one?
Aug 14, 2018, 8:11 am
#5158
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
By intentionally withholding information about how Travel Package certificates will be converted until it's too late to act on the information, Marriott is being really SHADY and DISHONEST. I no longer trust Marriott to do the right thing.
Aug 14, 2018, 8:15 am
#5159
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: SNA/LAX
Programs: Hertz PC, Hilton DMD, IHG Spire Amb, Bonvoy Titanium Elite & WoH Globalist
Posts: 8,076
Called 3 weeks ago to get a 5-night package, was placed on long hold, and then disconnected before I was able to provide my airline FF number Lo and behold, the 5-nights showed up and they deducted 30K points from my account. Called back to get the miles but no dice. They allowed me to keep the 5-nights for 30K points which I think it's a bargain for category 1-5 properties. Valuation-wise this amounts to around $50 per night in some really nice properties and with my Platinum benefits, it's a real bargain.
Aug 14, 2018, 10:38 am
#5160
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,431
Is there any property that increases from current category 8 to new category 7? I know about the cat 9 Domes of Elounda going to new cat 8, but I don't have enough points for a 9 right now.
