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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Aug 12, 2018, 1:58 am
#5011
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,206
This was the one property that I thought about booking but ultimately decided not to. It was the difference between paying 540K for two Cat 1-5 TPs at the 120K mile marker vs the 390K for that package and I ultimately went with the two TPs. No regrets because I still value the airline miles more than the room points but it looks like an incredible property.
Like I said good hard product but not worth the cat 9 cert.
Aug 12, 2018, 7:08 am
#5012
Suspended
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: EWR/PHL/BWI
Posts: 4,412
My take is that, between 8/18 to 9/18, the old TP system will be locked down. The old TP system will be phased out. They do not exist any more. If you have TP attached, you can still change or cancel the reservation. But you can't change or re-attach it to a new property.
After 9/18, the attached TP should be still attached to the hotel you booked with the new category. All un-attached TPs will be mapped to the new category with equivalent value (or MR points). Very likely MR will bump the category up.
I think MR has been very fair with the TPs. We get very good value out of the TPs. And MR will keep the value of the TPs. It is up to the TP holders to mange the TPs.
After 9/18, the attached TP should be still attached to the hotel you booked with the new category. All un-attached TPs will be mapped to the new category with equivalent value (or MR points). Very likely MR will bump the category up.
I think MR has been very fair with the TPs. We get very good value out of the TPs. And MR will keep the value of the TPs. It is up to the TP holders to mange the TPs.
Aug 12, 2018, 9:14 am
#5013
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,439
I know that I am the only person in the world who gets value out of Delta SkyPesos, but just in case...
Package ordered Friday posted on Sunday.
EDIT: Also, for whatever reason, the miles from a United package ordered at the same time on Friday posted on Sunday with no expediting option.
Package ordered Friday posted on Sunday.
EDIT: Also, for whatever reason, the miles from a United package ordered at the same time on Friday posted on Sunday with no expediting option.
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Aug 12, 2018, 9:19 am
#5014
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
While it wouldn't be my choice, if Delta works for you I am certainly not going to criticize you decision. Just curious where you find the best value among the options to use Delta miles.
Aug 12, 2018, 9:31 am
#5015
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,439
For example, looking at an SFO-MSP round trip at around 2 cpm. Since we have no international travel in the near future, I'm quite happy to get 2 cpm on a domestic redemption.
Aug 12, 2018, 9:32 am
#5016
Join Date: Aug 2001
Programs: AA lifetime gold, Marriott Plat.
Posts: 418
So confused by all this! We have both a category 7 and 8 five night stay certs but can't decide what to do! Maybe just wait as our fall and winter travel is set now and can't book next fall until after Sept 18. Can't decide if we should just attach them to a place that we are thinking about visiting late spring or early summer or just wait it out. Would love to be able to attach them to a Starwood stay we have booked in Mexico in January but then again maybe we should wait?
We know that we are lucky to have such decisions to make!
We know that we are lucky to have such decisions to make!
Aug 12, 2018, 9:42 am
#5017
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: Marriott/Starwood Lifetime Titanium, Hilton HHonors Diamond, IHG Spire, United Premier Silver
Posts: 707
It really comes down to your own preference. Personally, I think if you have some idea of where you want to go later in the year and dates, there is no harm attaching your certificate to it now. That way, you have locked in that reservation guaranteeing you do not have to pay any more for that reservation should you decide to keep it, but if you decide you want to convert the certificate to the new ones later that can be attached to Starwood properties, you can always unattach the certificate later and have it converted. Most current category 7s and 8s will be 5s, I think, in the new system?
Aug 12, 2018, 9:43 am
#5018
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,343
Simple question, if I book now using travel package for 7 nights, can I call in to cancel and get the travel package/hotel award back so that way I can book at another hotel? I'm not sure if the travel package booking works same way as using hotel points and then canceling for refund of points.
Aug 12, 2018, 9:59 am
#5019
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: Marriott/Starwood Lifetime Titanium, Hilton HHonors Diamond, IHG Spire, United Premier Silver
Posts: 707
Simple question, if I book now using travel package for 7 nights, can I call in to cancel and get the travel package/hotel award back so that way I can book at another hotel? I'm not sure if the travel package booking works same way as using hotel points and then canceling for refund of points.
Can you get the SAME travel package back? It depends. Will you be canceling before August 18? Then, yes. Will you be canceling after August 18? We have no official word from Marriott on this, but if what Mr. Marriott's office said holds, then no. It will be converted to a different travel package which allows Starwood hotels and is matched up to the new hotel categories.
Aug 12, 2018, 10:02 am
#5020
Join Date: Jun 2004
Programs: Marriott/Starwood Lifetime Titanium, Hilton HHonors Diamond, IHG Spire, United Premier Silver
Posts: 707
Has anyone else had trouble booking these TP reservations for the end of July? We have been trying to get a reservation for one over the very end of the month and while the dates finally just opened up last night, the hotel has still not dropped in availability and despite contacting the hotel directly and two cases opened about this, the hotel has not dropped in their availability yet. This is difficult because if we would like to have ours attached before August 18 and not touched afterwards, but we cannot do so because we cannot make the reservation.
Aug 12, 2018, 11:31 am
#5021
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 24
Domes of Elunda has a excellent hard product but the soft product lets it down so badly. We were there in May and I felt let down after spending $600 a night on a hotel room. They nickel and dime you on everything. Even coffee pods in the room are extra. Think it was $3 for a Nespresso pod. My 3yr old is a slow eater and likes to take her time which means we normally carry her fruit bowl or cereal back to the room sometimes. We were rudely told on day 1 that they would allow it just once and from tomorrow we need to order her room service. Only give 2 bottles of water and the third is something silly like $6. We went in may and were told that they would have one heated pool which was really cold and clearly not heated. Asked management to look into it everyday and not once did we get a reply. Even other reviews on the Marriott site at the same time complained about the pool not being heated.
Like I said good hard product but not worth the cat 9 cert.
Like I said good hard product but not worth the cat 9 cert.
Aug 12, 2018, 11:47 am
#5022
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 308
Domes of Elunda has a excellent hard product but the soft product lets it down so badly. We were there in May and I felt let down after spending $600 a night on a hotel room. They nickel and dime you on everything. Even coffee pods in the room are extra. Think it was $3 for a Nespresso pod. My 3yr old is a slow eater and likes to take her time which means we normally carry her fruit bowl or cereal back to the room sometimes. We were rudely told on day 1 that they would allow it just once and from tomorrow we need to order her room service. Only give 2 bottles of water and the third is something silly like $6. We went in may and were told that they would have one heated pool which was really cold and clearly not heated. Asked management to look into it everyday and not once did we get a reply. Even other reviews on the Marriott site at the same time complained about the pool not being heated.
Like I said good hard product but not worth the cat 9 cert.
Like I said good hard product but not worth the cat 9 cert.
Aug 12, 2018, 12:21 pm
#5023
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
Non-stop high price routes where the miles option has not kept up with the cash price inflation.
For example, looking at an SFO-MSP round trip at around 2 cpm. Since we have no international travel in the near future, I'm quite happy to get 2 cpm on a domestic redemption.
For example, looking at an SFO-MSP round trip at around 2 cpm. Since we have no international travel in the near future, I'm quite happy to get 2 cpm on a domestic redemption.
Aug 12, 2018, 1:15 pm
#5024
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Chicago
Posts: 318
The wording is horrible and belies the meat of the message which is:
And that is the crux which effects attached and unattached certs. I'd be freaked out if holding a cert reservation during that period because if plans didn't hold exactly there'd be no way to modify/cancel.
And that is the crux which effects attached and unattached certs. I'd be freaked out if holding a cert reservation during that period because if plans didn't hold exactly there'd be no way to modify/cancel.
I’ve tried calling Marriott twice about this. Both times I was on and off hold for about an hour as the reps tried to track down the answer. But both times I couldn’t get any clarity.
This is my first time dealing with Marriott customer service, and am very disappointed (I’m use to dealing with my SPG ambassador).
Aug 12, 2018, 1:46 pm
#5025
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,738
ok..not trying to be snarky, but what is the allure of the 7 day packages? I get it's good value, but where are people going that they would want to stay at the same location for 7 nights? I can't see this as option to say Europe. Too much to see over multiple countries to want to stay in one location for 7 nights. Hawaii maybe?
On the other hand, Hawaii is of NO interest to us. I would rather spend 7 nights on a Green Island (as many think of the Dome property) than in Hawaii. We get far better value and scenery on a Caribbean cruise for example.
The bottom line is, each person / family has own travel needs and style, hence what works for a person better does not mean the same thing for the other person.
