Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Jul 13, 2018, 3:17 pm
#3813
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!"
James
Jul 13, 2018, 4:58 pm
#3814
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: UA-1K, Hertz-Gold, Marriott-Gold, PC-Platinum, SPG
Posts: 2,777
Jul 13, 2018, 5:29 pm
#3815
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,452
Jul 13, 2018, 6:49 pm
#3816
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: UA-1K, Hertz-Gold, Marriott-Gold, PC-Platinum, SPG
Posts: 2,777
Jul 13, 2018, 6:58 pm
#3817
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,452
Jul 13, 2018, 7:04 pm
#3818
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,738
Suggest people to read this thread in Marriott Insider - basically someone has contacted Marriott multiple times, literally each month since April to speak to some managers, and eventually being direct to Mr. Marriott's Office, only to be told the standard answer "I dont have an answer for that." by the lady from Mr. Marriott's Office. And that is after the person from Mr. Marriott's Office failed to get back to the poster within the promised 3 business days, so the poster decided to reach out to her again after 1.5 weeks waiting for the call back that never comes.
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/54993
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/54993
Jul 13, 2018, 8:52 pm
#3819
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
Suggest people to read this thread in Marriott Insider - basically someone has contacted Marriott multiple times, literally each month since April to speak to some managers, and eventually being direct to Mr. Marriott's Office, only to be told the standard answer "I dont have an answer for that." by the lady from Mr. Marriott's Office. And that is after the person from Mr. Marriott's Office failed to get back to the poster within the promised 3 business days, so the poster decided to reach out to her again after 1.5 weeks waiting for the call back that never comes.
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/54993
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/54993
) .... as after reading this info, I actually think the end policy will actually be at our favourite and which is why they don't want to release it until on Aug 1st to avoid everyone rush to redeem those "sweet spot" certs at those certain category. I think they regert the 1 SPG to 3 Marriott instant transfer setup that they have now where many (way too many) members transfer 90K SPG for a Travel Package... hence they just trying to minimize their lost. As if I am not mistaking, the new TP info that we all know that has not been "officially" release yet, am I correct? It was just a leak, right.... anyway just my 2 cents, or just my wild guess 
Jul 13, 2018, 8:58 pm
#3820
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,738
it could be the fact I had been working very late night every single day this week (i.e. my brain might not be actually functioning right now ) .... as after reading this info, I actually think the end policy will actually be at our favourite and which is why they don't want to release it until on Aug 1st to avoid everyone rush to redeem those "sweet spot" certs at those certain category. I think they regert the 1 SPG to 3 Marriott instant transfer setup that they have now where many (way too many) members transfer 90K SPG for a Travel Package... hence they just trying to minimize their lost. As if I am not mistaking, the new TP info that we all know that has not been "officially" release yet, am I correct? It was just a leak, right.... anyway just my 2 cents, or just my wild guess
) .... as after reading this info, I actually think the end policy will actually be at our favourite and which is why they don't want to release it until on Aug 1st to avoid everyone rush to redeem those "sweet spot" certs at those certain category. I think they regert the 1 SPG to 3 Marriott instant transfer setup that they have now where many (way too many) members transfer 90K SPG for a Travel Package... hence they just trying to minimize their lost. As if I am not mistaking, the new TP info that we all know that has not been "officially" release yet, am I correct? It was just a leak, right.... anyway just my 2 cents, or just my wild guess Read it the other way, it could be the initial methods are too stingy and they are trying to find something that would be more palatable to members while not too costly to them.
The spg to marriott ratio definitely is generous and it has created lots of arbitration opp on award stays. To me, it is far more valuable than the miles, as it basically saves us 50 to 70% hotel costs over the past 18 months.
Jul 14, 2018, 1:35 am
#3821
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,263
it could be the fact I had been working very late night every single day this week (i.e. my brain might not be actually functioning right now ) .... as after reading this info, I actually think the end policy will actually be at our favourite and which is why they don't want to release it until on Aug 1st to avoid everyone rush to redeem those "sweet spot" certs at those certain category. I think they regert the 1 SPG to 3 Marriott instant transfer setup that they have now where many (way too many) members transfer 90K SPG for a Travel Package... hence they just trying to minimize their lost. As if I am not mistaking, the new TP info that we all know that has not been "officially" release yet, am I correct? It was just a leak, right.... anyway just my 2 cents, or just my wild guess
) .... as after reading this info, I actually think the end policy will actually be at our favourite and which is why they don't want to release it until on Aug 1st to avoid everyone rush to redeem those "sweet spot" certs at those certain category. I think they regert the 1 SPG to 3 Marriott instant transfer setup that they have now where many (way too many) members transfer 90K SPG for a Travel Package... hence they just trying to minimize their lost. As if I am not mistaking, the new TP info that we all know that has not been "officially" release yet, am I correct? It was just a leak, right.... anyway just my 2 cents, or just my wild guess I think the fact that when asked what he should do with his certificate and the answer is "If you attach the certificate to a hotel reservation we'll honor that reservation even if the hotel category changes," speaks volumes.
James
Last edited by Flying for Fun; Jul 14, 2018 at 2:31 am
Jul 14, 2018, 3:57 am
#3822
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: NRW / Germany
Programs: LH FTL
Posts: 186
Maybe a newbie question, but I didn't find an answer to that yet :-/
Is the availability for 7 night certificate the same as normal point redemptions?
So If I find a date where I could spend 7 night on points, I could alternatively also use the voucher from the travel package?
Is the availability for 7 night certificate the same as normal point redemptions?
So If I find a date where I could spend 7 night on points, I could alternatively also use the voucher from the travel package?
Jul 14, 2018, 4:37 am
#3823
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,726
Yes, a TP 7 night hotel cert is the same as any other hotel award cert in terms of hotel award availability.
Jul 14, 2018, 5:33 am
#3824
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,206
Just got a email to say that my 5 night cert has been cancelled then got a email to say a new one had been issued for 7 nights. No explanation at all. Had to call and waste a hour before someone advised me what happened.
Yeah but then they charged the extra 45k for the 7 night package.
Yeah but then they charged the extra 45k for the 7 night package.
Jul 14, 2018, 6:04 am
#3825
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
Just got a email to say that my 5 night cert has been cancelled then got a email to say a new one had been issued for 7 nights. No explanation at all. Had to call and waste a hour before someone advised me what happened.
Yeah but then they charged the extra 45k for the 7 night package.
Yeah but then they charged the extra 45k for the 7 night package.
