Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Jul 2, 2018, 5:01 am
#3586
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
The last few days, we have seen hints that the current unused certs will be exchanged for a comparable level in the new program. It now seems unlikely that we'll get points for unused certs. My hope is that those certs can be used for both Starwood and Marriott properties. I have yet to see anything definitive, though.
Jul 2, 2018, 10:56 am
#3587
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 30
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Last edited by flyerflyer77; Jul 2, 2018 at 11:15 am Reason: I found the answer to my question elsewhere
Jul 2, 2018, 12:40 pm
#3588
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 718
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, IHG Diamond
Posts: 966
How long does it usually take for the airline miles to post to acct? I ordered a travel pkg last thursday
Jul 2, 2018, 12:54 pm
#3589
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
Jul 2, 2018, 12:59 pm
#3590
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
The last few days, we have seen hints that the current unused certs will be exchanged for a comparable level in the new program. It now seems unlikely that we'll get points for unused certs. My hope is that those certs can be used for both Starwood and Marriott properties. I have yet to see anything definitive, though.
The hint is strongly recommend members to ATTACH the cert to an actual booking, and not leaves it as a Floater which would mean "current unused cert", and those would be converted to a yet to be determined / announced points.
A cert currently is attached, is an "used cert". Until the reservation is canceled, said cert is in "used" status. What is intrigue is, when the award stay paid by a cert, is canceled, then what would happen to the cert?
Personally I would make every effort to have an award stay booked in as far in the future as the system allows, and have the cert attached, because this is what SPG Lurker recommends for members to maximize the value of the current TP.
Jul 2, 2018, 1:22 pm
#3591
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,555
UA was 1 day the last time I did one.
AS took a while - I want to say about 5 days when I did one in May.
Jul 2, 2018, 1:28 pm
#3592
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Posts: 52,555
Getting 150,000 for our unused certificate would be quite generous - perhaps excessively so.
Getting 45,000 for it would be very unfair to the members.
There's no reason *not* to turn them into "new" category certs - that's fair, it's what we expected when we redeemed the award, and it should be just as easy to do as anything else.
Hopefully they will clarify and state what the actual outcome will be. I have one floater sitting out there right now (7 night Cat 5).
Jul 2, 2018, 1:51 pm
#3593
Community Director Emerita
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 33,739
How will existing Chase category-5 certificates be handled after the realignment of categories?
Most Chase certificates will convert to the equivalent "Up To" Points amount as they are today in Marriott Rewards. As an example, a Chase Category 1-5 certificate will convert to up to 25,000 points
Then, you can probably assume that the answer is similar to the one for travel certificates. "We are currently reviewing how to handle existing <snip> awards already in members' accounts and will have a definitive answer in the coming weeks. Members should make every effort to book and attach these certificates prior to our programs becoming one to to maximize their usage."
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
Most Chase certificates will convert to the equivalent "Up To" Points amount as they are today in Marriott Rewards. As an example, a Chase Category 1-5 certificate will convert to up to 25,000 points
Then, you can probably assume that the answer is similar to the one for travel certificates. "We are currently reviewing how to handle existing <snip> awards already in members' accounts and will have a definitive answer in the coming weeks. Members should make every effort to book and attach these certificates prior to our programs becoming one to to maximize their usage."
Best regards,
William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts LLC
[email protected]
Jul 2, 2018, 2:25 pm
#3594
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
Basically you have summarized the situation very well. If a cat 1-5 is cancelled now or after the merger by the member he would receive 45,000 unrestricted points. If a cat 1-5 cat is unattached after the merger it would have to be converted to a new point-based restricted cert to be used with the new reward chart. Are you thinking after the merger MR would force cancel and give the member for example 150,000 unrestricted points for a Cat 1-5 TP cert?
Jul 2, 2018, 2:36 pm
#3595
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29917515-post1810.html
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Jul 2, 2018, 2:44 pm
#3596
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,804
Is this similar to Vacations by Marriott?
Jul 2, 2018, 2:45 pm
#3597
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
Basically you have summarized the situation very well. If a cat 1-5 is cancelled now or after the merger by the member he would receive 45,000 unrestricted points. If a cat 1-5 cat is unattached after the merger it would have to be converted to a new point-based restricted cert to be used with the new reward chart. Are you thinking after the merger MR would force cancel and give the member for example 150,000 unrestricted points for a Cat 1-5 TP cert?
Jul 2, 2018, 3:07 pm
#3598
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Posts: 52,555
I never expected Marriott to offer 150K unrestricted points for a cat-5 certificate. The problem is that replacing a certificate in-kind is not straightforward (see my post above #3595 ). I'm not sure Marriott wants to deal with all the complaints and resulting headaches post conversion.
- Convert them down a half-step and refund a few points.
- Convert them up a half-step. Member gets a one-time small "bonus".
Jul 2, 2018, 3:14 pm
#3599
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
If they down-convert, certificate holders won't be happy because the refunded points are insufficient to book the same hotels (assuming it's upgradable with points). If they up-convert, they may have to convert to a sufficiently high level to make members whole in all scenarios, but at a high cost to Marriott.
Jul 2, 2018, 3:21 pm
#3600
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: Marriott - Titanium, AA - Lifetime Gold
Posts: 333
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29917515-post1810.html
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Or how would you manage the change is rate?