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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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May 15, 2018, 5:20 pm
#3136
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
No inside info, which is why I said likely. They've said certificates (in general) will map to comparable points without getting into specifics about the travel certificates. One could reasonable expect a Cat 9 to map to a Cat 6 certificate (since Cat 5 would be well below current points required for both Cat 8 and Cat 9). What will it be? Who knows. But I think we can all agree that a Cat 9 under the current scheme (can book best Marriott, but no RCs+) is not mapping to the new Cat 8 section (any property across the board) or even Cat 7 in Aug (any property across the board). If that were the case I'd be stoked, but makes no sense.
May 16, 2018, 8:19 pm
#3137
Join Date: May 2018
Location: YYZ
Posts: 42
I was planning to do a SPG-> Marriot Package conversion for a trip for 2 to Bali on biz class.
But from what I've read it seems that its better to get private villas/apartments in Bali instead of using points for hotels as they are cheap.
Any recommendations on a Cat 5/6/7 hotel that is on or close to a beach somewhere in Asia (or somewhere not too challenging to find/organize award flights to redeem from Toronto)
Planning a trip next year in March and would love a nice relaxing trip by utilizing these packages.Would be my first trip on points
But from what I've read it seems that its better to get private villas/apartments in Bali instead of using points for hotels as they are cheap.
Any recommendations on a Cat 5/6/7 hotel that is on or close to a beach somewhere in Asia (or somewhere not too challenging to find/organize award flights to redeem from Toronto)
Planning a trip next year in March and would love a nice relaxing trip by utilizing these packages.Would be my first trip on points
May 17, 2018, 6:01 pm
#3138
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: Alaska mvp G, AA Exec Plat, Marriott/SPG platinum, United Silver, Delta Silver, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 165
Can i us 7 night travel package certificate for a different cat? help
I have a 7 night Cat 5 certificate.. My question is can I use that certificate.... lets say,, in a Cat 6 for 5 nights or 6 nights instead?
Any help would be great!
Any help would be great!
May 17, 2018, 6:06 pm
#3139
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
No, you can only use it for what it states. If you use it for fewer nights you will forfeit the remaining nights. You can call Marriott, pay additional points and have the cert changed to a different category. So if you want a Cat 6 hotel call Marriott to change the cert.
If you presented a Cat 5 cert to a Cat 6 hotel, the property would not be able to get payment from Marriott. The cert is not points and a Cat 6 hotel would not be reimbursed for something it should not accept and may be sanctioned by Marriott on top of that.
If you presented a Cat 5 cert to a Cat 6 hotel, the property would not be able to get payment from Marriott. The cert is not points and a Cat 6 hotel would not be reimbursed for something it should not accept and may be sanctioned by Marriott on top of that.
May 18, 2018, 2:19 am
#3140
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Now in SLC
Programs: DL GM 1MM, MR LT Titanium
Posts: 4,116
You can call Marriott to increase the category of the certificate, but you can't change the length. So if you pay 30,000 more points, you can increase the certificate to a 7 night cat 6 cert, but you cannot make it a 6 night or 5 night cert.
May 18, 2018, 6:17 am
#3141
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, Amex AeroPlat
Posts: 977
I was planning to do a SPG-> Marriot Package conversion for a trip for 2 to Bali on biz class.
But from what I've read it seems that its better to get private villas/apartments in Bali instead of using points for hotels as they are cheap.
Any recommendations on a Cat 5/6/7 hotel that is on or close to a beach somewhere in Asia (or somewhere not too challenging to find/organize award flights to redeem from Toronto)
Planning a trip next year in March and would love a nice relaxing trip by utilizing these packages.Would be my first trip on points
But from what I've read it seems that its better to get private villas/apartments in Bali instead of using points for hotels as they are cheap.
Any recommendations on a Cat 5/6/7 hotel that is on or close to a beach somewhere in Asia (or somewhere not too challenging to find/organize award flights to redeem from Toronto)
Planning a trip next year in March and would love a nice relaxing trip by utilizing these packages.Would be my first trip on points
If you have never been to China, consider using the 7-night certificate in Shanghai.
If you want to use Alaska miles to get your CX, you need to get your miles ASAP since flights in March and April 2019 are already available for redemption.
May 18, 2018, 7:42 am
#3142
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,833
I cannot find anything about "express" service and Marriott reps claim to know nothing about it. Can you provide any further info?
May 18, 2018, 10:31 am
#3143
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: BOS/MHT/PVD/BDL
Programs: Belong to Many but No Longer Loyal to Any
Posts: 880
May 18, 2018, 10:55 am
#3144
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: BOS/MHT/PVD/BDL
Programs: Belong to Many but No Longer Loyal to Any
Posts: 880
I recall reading somewhere that under the new combined program TPs will continue to exist at a similar value but be more streamlined. How do people read this? We're looking at two 120K redemptions, and I just don't see that number going up, only down or the same. From the airline mileage standpoint what are the arguments for holding off on a 120K redemption?
May 18, 2018, 12:15 pm
#3145
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,833
It's actually on their straight Hotel Points->Miles page. https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/morerew.mi
However since 0/3 Plat reps told me about this (despite my asking - I specifically asked if there was any way to expedite the transfer and was told no - and this was before the current melt down) and with the current inability to reach Plat by phone and now a 3-4 day time to get email response don't have much hope of getting much/any service, sigh.......
May 18, 2018, 2:52 pm
#3146
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
I was planning to do a SPG-> Marriot Package conversion for a trip for 2 to Bali on biz class.
But from what I've read it seems that its better to get private villas/apartments in Bali instead of using points for hotels as they are cheap.
Any recommendations on a Cat 5/6/7 hotel that is on or close to a beach somewhere in Asia (or somewhere not too challenging to find/organize award flights to redeem from Toronto)
Planning a trip next year in March and would love a nice relaxing trip by utilizing these packages.Would be my first trip on points
But from what I've read it seems that its better to get private villas/apartments in Bali instead of using points for hotels as they are cheap.
Any recommendations on a Cat 5/6/7 hotel that is on or close to a beach somewhere in Asia (or somewhere not too challenging to find/organize award flights to redeem from Toronto)
Planning a trip next year in March and would love a nice relaxing trip by utilizing these packages.Would be my first trip on points
May 18, 2018, 4:39 pm
#3147
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: GVA
Programs: BA Silver (OW Sapphire), A3 Gold (*G), Bonvoy LTTE, HHonors Diamond, LeClubAccor Silver, UA Silver
Posts: 1,778
Is There an Arbitrage Opportunity in Booking a Marriott Hotel Package before August?
So, I never booked a Marriott Travel Package in my life, but based on the Lurker's response below on the SPG forum, I got thinking...
10. Question on the "floater certificates" being canceled and points redeposited into the account on Aug 1st. Does this include outstanding Marriott Travel packages here: Flight and Hotel Packages Marriott Hotel Packages
Floater certificates, including outstanding Marriott Travel Packages, will be cancelled and converted to equivalent points, credited to the member’s account for future redemption. <added by Starwood Lurker 18May18>
So, if I book, say a 230,000 MR pts for 7 Cat 6 nights package + 50,000 AA miles, am I right in thinking I would get the equivalent of 7x Cat 6 points credited back to my account (7x30k = 210k) and still keep the 50k AA miles? This means that 50k AA miles (or Avios, in my case) would have cost 20k MR points, instead of 120k (considering there'll be a 5k bonus for every 60k pts converted).
Or am I missing something here? There's a likelihood that would map into a lower Category, correct. But from the wording, it looks like it'll be a straight points conversion, and not another 7-night cert (which I don't really like as I prefer to book 5 nights at a time to maximize points).
10. Question on the "floater certificates" being canceled and points redeposited into the account on Aug 1st. Does this include outstanding Marriott Travel packages here: Flight and Hotel Packages Marriott Hotel Packages
Floater certificates, including outstanding Marriott Travel Packages, will be cancelled and converted to equivalent points, credited to the member’s account for future redemption. <added by Starwood Lurker 18May18>
So, if I book, say a 230,000 MR pts for 7 Cat 6 nights package + 50,000 AA miles, am I right in thinking I would get the equivalent of 7x Cat 6 points credited back to my account (7x30k = 210k) and still keep the 50k AA miles? This means that 50k AA miles (or Avios, in my case) would have cost 20k MR points, instead of 120k (considering there'll be a 5k bonus for every 60k pts converted).
Or am I missing something here? There's a likelihood that would map into a lower Category, correct. But from the wording, it looks like it'll be a straight points conversion, and not another 7-night cert (which I don't really like as I prefer to book 5 nights at a time to maximize points).
May 18, 2018, 4:52 pm
#3148
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: BAEC, Flying Club, HHonors, Gold Passport, IHG Rewards, Le Club Accor, Club Carlson
Posts: 323
Anyone think there is any chance of getting a clear picture of what is happening with the TP's after the deadline before August? I ask as it is so annoying not to know whether to keep the voucher until the deadline or book now. Could really do with some concreate answers.
May 18, 2018, 8:20 pm
#3149
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 297
So, I never booked a Marriott Travel Package in my life, but based on the Lurker's response below on the SPG forum, I got thinking...
10. Question on the "floater certificates" being canceled and points redeposited into the account on Aug 1st. Does this include outstanding Marriott Travel packages here: Flight and Hotel Packages Marriott Hotel Packages
Floater certificates, including outstanding Marriott Travel Packages, will be cancelled and converted to equivalent points, credited to the member’s account for future redemption. <added by Starwood Lurker 18May18>
So, if I book, say a 230,000 MR pts for 7 Cat 6 nights package + 50,000 AA miles, am I right in thinking I would get the equivalent of 7x Cat 6 points credited back to my account (7x30k = 210k) and still keep the 50k AA miles? This means that 50k AA miles (or Avios, in my case) would have cost 20k MR points, instead of 120k (considering there'll be a 5k bonus for every 60k pts converted).
Or am I missing something here? There's a likelihood that would map into a lower Category, correct. But from the wording, it looks like it'll be a straight points conversion, and not another 7-night cert (which I don't really like as I prefer to book 5 nights at a time to maximize points).
10. Question on the "floater certificates" being canceled and points redeposited into the account on Aug 1st. Does this include outstanding Marriott Travel packages here: Flight and Hotel Packages Marriott Hotel Packages
Floater certificates, including outstanding Marriott Travel Packages, will be cancelled and converted to equivalent points, credited to the member’s account for future redemption. <added by Starwood Lurker 18May18>
So, if I book, say a 230,000 MR pts for 7 Cat 6 nights package + 50,000 AA miles, am I right in thinking I would get the equivalent of 7x Cat 6 points credited back to my account (7x30k = 210k) and still keep the 50k AA miles? This means that 50k AA miles (or Avios, in my case) would have cost 20k MR points, instead of 120k (considering there'll be a 5k bonus for every 60k pts converted).
Or am I missing something here? There's a likelihood that would map into a lower Category, correct. But from the wording, it looks like it'll be a straight points conversion, and not another 7-night cert (which I don't really like as I prefer to book 5 nights at a time to maximize points).
It's just so unclear what will happen so I am affraid to make any move other than only redeeming the packages for our Cherry Blossom week at Ritz Kyoto which might even cost me less pt IF I book in Aug. Very frustrating right now because it's so unclear of what is happening.
May 18, 2018, 9:25 pm
#3150
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: GVA
Programs: BA Silver (OW Sapphire), A3 Gold (*G), Bonvoy LTTE, HHonors Diamond, LeClubAccor Silver, UA Silver
Posts: 1,778
Even if the Certs map into Cat 1 regular rate, you’d be getting 382,500pts worth of pts and miles for 300,000 pts (120k miles = 300k pts + 7 nights @ 7,500pts each).
If certs map into Cat 1 upside would be 82,500pts
If certs map into Cat 2 upside would be 117,500pts
If certs map into Cat 3 upside would be 152,500pts
Again, am I missing something here?