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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Dec 25, 2017, 6:39 pm
#2716
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Dec 25, 2017, 8:24 pm
#2717
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
This has worked for me all but twice. Once I could not get a night at the Venice Boscolo and once I couldn't get a night at the Sonoma Ren. Maybe a dozen or so other times it has worked.
Dec 26, 2017, 2:03 pm
#2718
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Northern California
Programs: I want to be free! Free!
Posts: 3,455
Even better at places like the NY Marriott East -- $25 non-waivable destination fee or somesuch. It's horse dung that this isn't included in the rate displayed against other properties on marriott's site and it is a travesty that the FTC still allows customers to waste valuable time wading through the muck of these. based on the recent changes the DOT has made under Drumpf in respect of ancillary fee disclosures I suspect this isn't going to change any time soon.
Dec 30, 2017, 8:03 am
#2719
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: BOS
Posts: 1,461
I called yesterday to have my 7 night category 5 Travel package extended, and now my account says this: PARTIAL PKG-CAT 1-5 - 45,000 Points, Expires 12/29/2018
Is that normal? I called back, and got a very unhelpful person the second time.
Is that normal? I called back, and got a very unhelpful person the second time.
Dec 31, 2017, 7:51 am
#2720
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: WN F9 HA UA AA IHG HH MR
Posts: 3,305
Looks correct. What is the issue?
Jan 1, 2018, 11:20 am
#2721
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: AS MVP, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 191
I am looking at booking a trip to Hawaii in April and I am trying to determine whether I should pursue a TP or not. I currently have enough points for a 6-night stay, but would probably have enough points in a couple months for a 7-night TP with 50k miles on Alaska.
Is the only advantage of the TP the ability to buy miles at 1:1? I currently have enough miles to buy all 4 of our tickets today since the award flights are only 17.5k miles each way for a non-stop flight. I've seen these flights jump up to 30k overnight, so I am concerned if I wait until I have enough MR points to get the 7-day TP, the flights could jump up to 30k and therefore eliminate any value in getting the 50k Alaska Miles (since it would now take 100k more miles to book all 4 tickets).
It seems like in my scenario it would make most sense to book the hotel as a normal award reservation without a TP, but I wanted to double check with all the experts here that I am not missing some other advantage of the TP.
Is the only advantage of the TP the ability to buy miles at 1:1? I currently have enough miles to buy all 4 of our tickets today since the award flights are only 17.5k miles each way for a non-stop flight. I've seen these flights jump up to 30k overnight, so I am concerned if I wait until I have enough MR points to get the 7-day TP, the flights could jump up to 30k and therefore eliminate any value in getting the 50k Alaska Miles (since it would now take 100k more miles to book all 4 tickets).
It seems like in my scenario it would make most sense to book the hotel as a normal award reservation without a TP, but I wanted to double check with all the experts here that I am not missing some other advantage of the TP.
Jan 1, 2018, 11:33 am
#2722
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,454
There's no requirement that you use the miles from the TP for any particular redemption. Book the flights now with the miles you already have and save the TP miles for your next redemption?
Jan 1, 2018, 11:45 am
#2723
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Truth or Consequences, NM
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, UA Silver, Mobile Passport Unobtanium
Posts: 6,192
Exactly. Book the flights now at the reduced rate, buy the travel package, and have 50K AS miles in reserve.
Jan 1, 2018, 12:37 pm
#2724
Join Date: Oct 2017
Programs: AS MVP, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 191
Makes perfect sense.
I guess I just need to decide if I’d prefer the 6-night or 7-night vacation. I’m leaning towards only wanting 6-nights which would mean the cost to get the 50k alaska Miles would go up (40k MR points for the extra nights plus actual costs for another day in Hawaii).
If only the 5-night certs were available to everyone. That would be the perfect scenario.
Thanks for the help!
I guess I just need to decide if I’d prefer the 6-night or 7-night vacation. I’m leaning towards only wanting 6-nights which would mean the cost to get the 50k alaska Miles would go up (40k MR points for the extra nights plus actual costs for another day in Hawaii).
If only the 5-night certs were available to everyone. That would be the perfect scenario.
Thanks for the help!
Jan 1, 2018, 1:54 pm
#2726
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
Make your hotel reservation now, too. You do not have to have the points taken when you hold the room. Don't wait until you have the cert when the rooms might not be available. Just hold the nights like it will be a points reservation. As long as you have and apply the cert at least one week before your stay you won't have a problem.
Jan 1, 2018, 10:38 pm
#2727
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: WN F9 HA UA AA IHG HH MR
Posts: 3,305
The 45k points appear to be the refundable value of the certificate at this time. The points toward the airline miles portion of the TP have already been spent. It's still a better value to use the certificate for 7 nights in a Cat 5 hotel, than to request a point refund.
Jan 2, 2018, 5:47 am
#2728
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,266
I was advised by a Plat agent that the 7N certificate is non-refundable - should I call back and ask again?
Jan 2, 2018, 6:30 am
#2729
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 298
I have been informed by a call center agent that I could have the Points value of the certificate re-credited if I needed these points for another redemption (e.g. a night at a high category/tier property). However, you get the raw end of the deal then because I would usually value a 7 night certificate much higher than the points Marriott attaches to this certificate internally. Back to your question, maybe the difference is that if you just ask for a refund you may not get it but when you would like to use the recredited points for another redemption Marriott will help you out and give the points back.
Jan 2, 2018, 6:35 am
#2730
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: AUH
Posts: 8,266
I have been informed by a call center agent that I could have the Points value of the certificate re-credited if I needed these points for another redemption (e.g. a night at a high category/tier property). However, you get the raw end of the deal then because I would usually value a 7 night certificate much higher than the points Marriott attaches to this certificate internally. Back to your question, maybe the difference is that if you just ask for a refund you may not get it but when you would like to use the recredited points for another redemption Marriott will help you out and give the points back.
I also agree that 7 nights are generally more valuable than 45k points, but I find myself redeeming many TPs because of the favourable exchange rate for AAdvantage, and there's only so many 7 night consecutive stays which I need in a year! So even getting a 45k refund will be useful in further reducing the exchange rate of the AA miles.