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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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#2641
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: AA EXP, DL-Plat, WN-CP | Hotels: Choice-Gld, IHG-Plt, Rad-Gld, HH-Dia, Hyatt-Glob, Marriott-LtPlt
Posts: 2,889
Yes, it has been brought up many times and the outcome has been you do not earn credit on the cash portion of a C&P stay. It's considered an award stay and does not qualify. Also, spend for such things as taxes, parking, cleaning, etc. (operations typically farmed out and NOT operated by the property itself) do not earn points regardless what rate you book.
These programs are moving to a "find a way to say no" process just like many CSRs/FDCs do when trying to get benefits.
These programs are moving to a "find a way to say no" process just like many CSRs/FDCs do when trying to get benefits.
Instead, this was an award stay using a TP e-cert with a paid upgrade portion to a room type that cannot be redeemed using only an e-cert - Marriott presents it differently than C+P rates - as "Marriott Rewards Upgrade, eCertificate plus XXX USD required per night". Though, I certainly can understand if the cash upgrade portion should not earn points; but, I'm looking for an answer to that question (not about C+P bookings). These types of bookings are described here: https://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/hotelrmup.mi (I did the paid upgrade option)
Parking was on-property self-parking; but, I suppose they could argue it was farmed-out somehow.
#2642
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Thanks for your response. This was not a typical "Cash + Points" stay as Marriott uses that term and to which you appear to refer by "C&P stay". If it were, I already understand that the cash portion does not earn points.
Instead, this was an award stay using a TP e-cert with a paid upgrade portion to a room type that cannot be redeemed using only an e-cert - Marriott presents it differently than C+P rates - as "Marriott Rewards Upgrade, eCertificate plus XXX USD required per night". Though, I certainly can understand if the cash upgrade portion should not earn points; but, I'm looking for an answer to that question (not about C+P bookings).
Parking was on-property self-parking; but, I suppose they could argue it was farmed-out somehow.
Instead, this was an award stay using a TP e-cert with a paid upgrade portion to a room type that cannot be redeemed using only an e-cert - Marriott presents it differently than C+P rates - as "Marriott Rewards Upgrade, eCertificate plus XXX USD required per night". Though, I certainly can understand if the cash upgrade portion should not earn points; but, I'm looking for an answer to that question (not about C+P bookings).
Parking was on-property self-parking; but, I suppose they could argue it was farmed-out somehow.
#2644
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jackson, WY
Posts: 543
So you can book a Travel Package by booking a paid stay and calling later and attaching my certificate?
No one answered my question earlier, in general, how easy is it to find availability to book a travel package?
I've only ever booked free nights on Hyatt and Club Carlson, and in general I probably only find availability about 25% of the time. I'm curious if I am going after this aspirational award and won't be able to use it. Spent 10 minutes searching this forum and the web in general, never found anyone's comments.
No one answered my question earlier, in general, how easy is it to find availability to book a travel package?
I've only ever booked free nights on Hyatt and Club Carlson, and in general I probably only find availability about 25% of the time. I'm curious if I am going after this aspirational award and won't be able to use it. Spent 10 minutes searching this forum and the web in general, never found anyone's comments.
#2645
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,550
So you can book a Travel Package by booking a paid stay and calling later and attaching my certificate?
No one answered my question earlier, in general, how easy is it to find availability to book a travel package?
I've only ever booked free nights on Hyatt and Club Carlson, and in general I probably only find availability about 25% of the time. I'm curious if I am going after this aspirational award and won't be able to use it. Spent 10 minutes searching this forum and the web in general, never found anyone's comments.
No one answered my question earlier, in general, how easy is it to find availability to book a travel package?
I've only ever booked free nights on Hyatt and Club Carlson, and in general I probably only find availability about 25% of the time. I'm curious if I am going after this aspirational award and won't be able to use it. Spent 10 minutes searching this forum and the web in general, never found anyone's comments.
My hit rate on availability is pretty good at mainline Marriott/Renaissance hotels. I usually book well in advance with *some* date flexibility, and I haven't been shut out on a Travel Package I've wanted to do in many years, and I do 1 or 2 a year.
The disclaimers are this:
- Marriott allows hotels to "game" the system and hide award rooms more than brands like Starwood. I'm not usually trying to travel at max-peak periods, but if this *is* how you travel then I can see finding the 7 contiguous nights being a bit tougher.
- MVCI is its own animal entirely: those awards can be very tough to come by even when you're outside of the max-peak season. This can be frustrating since you get no elite benefits at "resorts", making MVCI comparatively attractive for those kinds of stays.
#2646
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 77
So you can book a Travel Package by booking a paid stay and calling later and attaching my certificate?
No one answered my question earlier, in general, how easy is it to find availability to book a travel package?
I've only ever booked free nights on Hyatt and Club Carlson, and in general I probably only find availability about 25% of the time. I'm curious if I am going after this aspirational award and won't be able to use it. Spent 10 minutes searching this forum and the web in general, never found anyone's comments.
No one answered my question earlier, in general, how easy is it to find availability to book a travel package?
I've only ever booked free nights on Hyatt and Club Carlson, and in general I probably only find availability about 25% of the time. I'm curious if I am going after this aspirational award and won't be able to use it. Spent 10 minutes searching this forum and the web in general, never found anyone's comments.
Marriott allows you to book even if you don't have enough points. I've yet to not find nights available for points but I haven't done that many bookings, and I look with plenty of time ahead.
#2647
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Jackson, WY
Posts: 543
Thanks Viracocha and Pinniped.
We typically don't book until last minute. We are going to Arizona tomorrow, I bought a one way ticket there about 3 weeks ago and the return flight about a week ago LOL.
We do want to go to Hawaii for 3 weeks in April, my ideal redemption would be a week somewhere there in the beginning or mid-April. By your comments I should start looking now.
We typically don't book until last minute. We are going to Arizona tomorrow, I bought a one way ticket there about 3 weeks ago and the return flight about a week ago LOL.
We do want to go to Hawaii for 3 weeks in April, my ideal redemption would be a week somewhere there in the beginning or mid-April. By your comments I should start looking now.
#2648
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,550
Thanks Viracocha and Pinniped.
We typically don't book until last minute. We are going to Arizona tomorrow, I bought a one way ticket there about 3 weeks ago and the return flight about a week ago LOL.
We do want to go to Hawaii for 3 weeks in April, my ideal redemption would be a week somewhere there in the beginning or mid-April. By your comments I should start looking now.
We typically don't book until last minute. We are going to Arizona tomorrow, I bought a one way ticket there about 3 weeks ago and the return flight about a week ago LOL.
We do want to go to Hawaii for 3 weeks in April, my ideal redemption would be a week somewhere there in the beginning or mid-April. By your comments I should start looking now.
The typical cancel rule looks to be 72 hours, so maybe find one you like, book it, and see if you can plan a trip around it. Of the 14 available hotels, I imagine you can slide the dates forward or backward a week and not change the results too much.
Maybe you can even get lucky and tease out an MVCI unit. I didn't try...
#2649
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,738
Thanks Viracocha and Pinniped.
We typically don't book until last minute. We are going to Arizona tomorrow, I bought a one way ticket there about 3 weeks ago and the return flight about a week ago LOL.
We do want to go to Hawaii for 3 weeks in April, my ideal redemption would be a week somewhere there in the beginning or mid-April. By your comments I should start looking now.
We typically don't book until last minute. We are going to Arizona tomorrow, I bought a one way ticket there about 3 weeks ago and the return flight about a week ago LOL.
We do want to go to Hawaii for 3 weeks in April, my ideal redemption would be a week somewhere there in the beginning or mid-April. By your comments I should start looking now.
There are many other people would like to book the better properties at popular locations, and most of them dont wait for last minute to book. You get the picture.
It is just plain common sense that good properties at good locations would sell out faster including the Pay nights, let alone the limited supply of Award nights. If you prefer last minute bookings, then you also need to accept that award nights may not available when you need them as they are long gone.
One great feature of Marriott program is, you can book award stay WITHOUT having the necessary points in your account. No any other program allows you to do so. You just need to come up with the points in your account about 7 to 10 days before check in, else the award booking would be reversed to a pay stay. Of course you also need to cancel the booking by the deadline should you not plan to stay, else you would be charged the stay, at least the first night, at rack rate.
Given you want to go to Hawaii in April, I gather you would agree that Hawaii is quite a popular destination. You can take a look on what are available now and decide if you want to book now or wait till April... the availability shown now should tell you which way you should go.
Last edited by Happy; Nov 4, 2017 at 5:23 pm
#2650
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: fwp blood diamond, dykwia uranium
Posts: 7,251
So transfer bonus time is here and I'm a bit uneasy. I mean I get a huge mileage plus bonus, but I never really travel and stay in the same place for 7 days. I mean I break my vacation as much as possible such that I only vacation 3-5 days at a time, and within that I'll probably hit up 2 destinations. Yeah. Child-less life. Just wondering
-Is there still success with 1 year extension?
-Availability is the same as an award availability? ie: 7 day booking of points available then cert is good?
-Is the 7day cert transferrable? To family? To friends?
-Is there still success with 1 year extension?
-Availability is the same as an award availability? ie: 7 day booking of points available then cert is good?
-Is the 7day cert transferrable? To family? To friends?
#2651
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,815
You do understand that DESIRED properties usually do not available at last minute, right?
There are many other people would like to book the better properties at popular locations, and most of them dont wait for last minute to book. You get the picture.
One great feature of Marriott program is, you can book award stay WITHOUT having the necessary points in your account. No any other program allows you to do so. You just need to come up with the points in your account about 7 to 10 days before check in, else the award booking would be reversed to a pay stay. Of course you also need to cancel the booking by the deadline should you not plan to stay, else you would be charged the stay, at least the first night, at rack rate.
Given you want to go to Hawaii in April, I gather you would agree that Hawaii is quite a popular destination. You can take a look on what are available now and decide if you want to book now or wait till April... the availability shown now should tell you which way you should go.
There are many other people would like to book the better properties at popular locations, and most of them dont wait for last minute to book. You get the picture.
One great feature of Marriott program is, you can book award stay WITHOUT having the necessary points in your account. No any other program allows you to do so. You just need to come up with the points in your account about 7 to 10 days before check in, else the award booking would be reversed to a pay stay. Of course you also need to cancel the booking by the deadline should you not plan to stay, else you would be charged the stay, at least the first night, at rack rate.
Given you want to go to Hawaii in April, I gather you would agree that Hawaii is quite a popular destination. You can take a look on what are available now and decide if you want to book now or wait till April... the availability shown now should tell you which way you should go.
#2652
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,815
So transfer bonus time is here and I'm a bit uneasy. I mean I get a huge mileage plus bonus, but I never really travel and stay in the same place for 7 days. I mean I break my vacation as much as possible such that I only vacation 3-5 days at a time, and within that I'll probably hit up 2 destinations. Yeah. Child-less life. Just wondering
-Is there still success with 1 year extension?
-Availability is the same as an award availability? ie: 7 day booking of points available then cert is good?
-Is the 7day cert transferrable? To family? To friends?
-Is there still success with 1 year extension?
-Availability is the same as an award availability? ie: 7 day booking of points available then cert is good?
-Is the 7day cert transferrable? To family? To friends?
2. Yes.
3. That’s what people here have said is possible.
#2653
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,738
That too. Marriott program makes the "book first, decide later" much easier to do as you dont need to have the necessary points in the account unlike any other programs, speculative bookings dont tie up points with Marriott program.
#2654
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North America
Posts: 2,265
Hey y'all
Is it fairly easy to get an agent to 'refund' your 7-night certificate for 45K points or is it ymmv?
Also ... any restrictions / issues if booking multiple travel packages at once?
Thanks all.
Is it fairly easy to get an agent to 'refund' your 7-night certificate for 45K points or is it ymmv?
Also ... any restrictions / issues if booking multiple travel packages at once?
Thanks all.
#2655
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
The one time I tried I got turn down. But I had a few coworkers called and had no issue.