Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Jun 12, 2017, 9:06 pm
#2416
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
A friend at work was just telling me today that she booked a trip in London over the weekend using her 7 day cert and she had to pay a day in the middle because there was no standard award night available that day. So seems to be alive and well.
Jun 12, 2017, 9:29 pm
#2417
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Now as Pinniped alluded to, the likelihood of standard rooms being available on nights where awards are not available is slim to none. The only time this would happen is when the hotel has a special event approved by corporate where they limit or totally black out awards...
Marriott does have their "no blackout" policy, but that only means they need that Corp special event waiver if they don't want to offer any award rooms.
Jun 13, 2017, 7:28 am
#2418
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
Jun 13, 2017, 12:30 pm
#2419
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,445
Jun 14, 2017, 2:27 pm
#2421
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 615
Hello all: I have a question regarding the 7N hotel+flight cert...I understand it's for a standard room. Based on research, it appears that if I want to upgrade that cert to a 1BR suite, that suite would HAVE to be available on the website via the P&C option, correct?
Before taking the plunge on the cert (it would be for Hawaii), can I do the diligence beforehand to determine whether or not I would be able to 1) get the cert AND 2) manage to upgrade to a suite by paying more P&C?
Lastly, am I seeking the impossible, especially considering it's Hawaii?
Thanks in advance!
Before taking the plunge on the cert (it would be for Hawaii), can I do the diligence beforehand to determine whether or not I would be able to 1) get the cert AND 2) manage to upgrade to a suite by paying more P&C?
Lastly, am I seeking the impossible, especially considering it's Hawaii?
Thanks in advance!
Jun 14, 2017, 3:12 pm
#2422
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Actually, resorts (and most of the hotels in Hawaii are resorts) tend to have more "upgradable" rooms available for award booking than non-resort hotels do.
So yes, it is possible. All you need to do is search for normal award availability for a hotel. For you case, if you were wanting to travel to Hawaii for say Nov. 1-8th (you can pick any nights you want to search for award availability). I checked the "use points" box and hit search.
I found 16 different hotels within Hawaii that have award availability for Nov. 1-8th. I looked them over and decided I kind of liked the Kauai Marriott Resort. So I click on the Rates button for that hotel.
I then see that I have a base award room for 240K points plus 3 award room "options" for award + ecertificates. I can also see that they have 3 award options for award + cash. I can pick and choose any of those that I prefer.
The TP award cert can be used as the "base" award (as long as the category level matches or exceeds the hotel which in this case is Cat. 8). Once I pick the particular "option" I want, the reservation will tell me the total amount of points required + any cash. So if I choose the Oceanview, Balcony Award+Cash, then I see on the reservation details window that it will cost 40K per night (except for the 5th night) + $150/night every night including the 5th night as the "upgrade" isn't covered on the 5th award night free award.
I've always made my reservations before I ordered the award and held it without points. I then call in the MR to get the award cert linked to the reservation. If you are using upgrade certs for the reservation instead of cash, then the reservation will tell you how many total points will be required including the upgrade certs.
It really isn't any different than making any other award reservation except you might need to call in to get the cert linked to your reservation.
So yes, it is possible. All you need to do is search for normal award availability for a hotel. For you case, if you were wanting to travel to Hawaii for say Nov. 1-8th (you can pick any nights you want to search for award availability). I checked the "use points" box and hit search.
I found 16 different hotels within Hawaii that have award availability for Nov. 1-8th. I looked them over and decided I kind of liked the Kauai Marriott Resort. So I click on the Rates button for that hotel.
I then see that I have a base award room for 240K points plus 3 award room "options" for award + ecertificates. I can also see that they have 3 award options for award + cash. I can pick and choose any of those that I prefer.
The TP award cert can be used as the "base" award (as long as the category level matches or exceeds the hotel which in this case is Cat. 8). Once I pick the particular "option" I want, the reservation will tell me the total amount of points required + any cash. So if I choose the Oceanview, Balcony Award+Cash, then I see on the reservation details window that it will cost 40K per night (except for the 5th night) + $150/night every night including the 5th night as the "upgrade" isn't covered on the 5th award night free award.
I've always made my reservations before I ordered the award and held it without points. I then call in the MR to get the award cert linked to the reservation. If you are using upgrade certs for the reservation instead of cash, then the reservation will tell you how many total points will be required including the upgrade certs.
It really isn't any different than making any other award reservation except you might need to call in to get the cert linked to your reservation.
Jul 11, 2017, 10:16 am
#2423
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 615
Can one upgrade a 7N cert to a suite via P&C?
Jul 11, 2017, 9:32 pm
#2424
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Yes it is possible, if the hotel is offering suite point rooms.
I have a stay coming up during Thanksgiving at the Puerto Vallarta Casa Magna resort in an Oceanfront Suite room. I am using a TP 7 night award for the base room plus something like 4 or 5 upgrade certs per night. I could have also chosen to use the 7 night award plus about $150/night instead of using the upgrade certs.
I made the award reservation online and then called into Marriott to link the TP award to the reservation. So the answer to your question is it all depends on what the hotel is offering for awards. They might offer suite award rooms or they might not.
I have a stay coming up during Thanksgiving at the Puerto Vallarta Casa Magna resort in an Oceanfront Suite room. I am using a TP 7 night award for the base room plus something like 4 or 5 upgrade certs per night. I could have also chosen to use the 7 night award plus about $150/night instead of using the upgrade certs.
I made the award reservation online and then called into Marriott to link the TP award to the reservation. So the answer to your question is it all depends on what the hotel is offering for awards. They might offer suite award rooms or they might not.
Jul 17, 2017, 10:36 pm
#2425
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ORD
Programs: status free since 2017
Posts: 2,188
Does the hotel stay need to be completed by expiration date on 7nt cert or only booked by that date?
Jul 18, 2017, 1:43 pm
#2426
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: OKC
Programs: AAdvantage EXP, Marriott Rewards Gold, Hilton Honors Diamond, TK M&S Elite
Posts: 290
One year from when the Certificate was created- but if you call Marriott before expiration they will grant one year extension.
Jul 19, 2017, 2:37 am
#2427
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,937
The hotel won't be able to pull the points and order the awards for you at check-in. What you might be able to do though is call MR or the hotel directly and ask if they would be willing to open up award inventory for a one or two bedroom suite. If they won't, then there isn't much you can do other than look elsewhere or hope you get a complementary upgrade at check-in.
Jul 19, 2017, 9:32 am
#2428
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Florida
Posts: 97
any recent DPs on Marriott --> United? Initiated via phone on saturday and points still haven't shown up
Jul 19, 2017, 10:13 am
#2429
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,740
Aeroplan 35% bonus transfer
Aeroplan has a new bonus transfer - this time is 35% for any quantity versus the one in March that was tiered.
I wish I could take advantage on this transfer but alas, I dont want to be holding 2 7-nights certs with expiration dates so close to each other as I have done the 25% transfer in late March.
But for those who are not aware of the Aeroplan bonus transfer, this could be a very nice bonus to redeem the TP - that is, if Aeriplan works for you.
I wish I could take advantage on this transfer but alas, I dont want to be holding 2 7-nights certs with expiration dates so close to each other as I have done the 25% transfer in late March.
But for those who are not aware of the Aeroplan bonus transfer, this could be a very nice bonus to redeem the TP - that is, if Aeriplan works for you.
Jul 20, 2017, 3:33 pm
#2430
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 35
I'm looking to redeem for a 5/7N cert to use next year. Unfortunately, I probably won't make Gold again. Has anyone had success in using the cert to make a reservation in someone else's name who has elite status so that his/her status attaches for upgrades/club/breakfast, etc?
Thanks
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