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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Jun 9, 2017, 12:01 pm
#2401
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,940
As already mentioned, the upgrades are 5K/night/cert.
And yes, you can use them with a TP hotel award. I have an upcoming award stay using a TP cert and upgraded to an Oceanfront suite room. Note that this upgrade took more than 1 upgrade cert per night. I made the reservation online, but had to call the Plat line to get the TP award linked and the correct # of upgrade certs added.
And yes, you can use them with a TP hotel award. I have an upcoming award stay using a TP cert and upgraded to an Oceanfront suite room. Note that this upgrade took more than 1 upgrade cert per night. I made the reservation online, but had to call the Plat line to get the TP award linked and the correct # of upgrade certs added.
Jun 9, 2017, 12:32 pm
#2402
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
The hotel won't be able to pull the points and order the awards for you at check-in. What you might be able to do though is call MR or the hotel directly and ask if they would be willing to open up award inventory for a one or two bedroom suite. If they won't, then there isn't much you can do other than look elsewhere or hope you get a complementary upgrade at check-in.
Jun 9, 2017, 4:09 pm
#2403
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, MLife Gold, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Caesars Diamond, Amex Plat
Posts: 5,940
The hotel won't be able to pull the points and order the awards for you at check-in. What you might be able to do though is call MR or the hotel directly and ask if they would be willing to open up award inventory for a one or two bedroom suite. If they won't, then there isn't much you can do other than look elsewhere or hope you get a complementary upgrade at check-in.
Jun 9, 2017, 5:47 pm
#2404
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,762
Thank you for your reply.
I did think about my requirement for places that I want to travel. I'll always have demands to fly JFK-HKG since I am from a city few hours away from Hong Kong.
So for Alaska, 70k miles for Cathay first class is almost the best option. However, I have read posts saying sometime BA can see the availability but can't with AS; To fly Hainan airline to go back to Shenzhen, I have also read posts saying they were able to locate fares on the AS website but wasn't able to book it due to website errors. They tried to call the customer service but it's the same problem. I believe the system in Alaska has some serious problems.
I guess I could redeem cathay pacific via AA... But the first class award has gone up to 110k which is not worthy when you have AS.
UA is something I am considering cuz the partner airlines they have. 7K for business and 11K/13k first class to Asia is good but still a bit pricy compare with AS.
I guess my hesitation is on the uncertain of AS system performance. If their system is working as expected, I would put my travel package on them.
I did think about my requirement for places that I want to travel. I'll always have demands to fly JFK-HKG since I am from a city few hours away from Hong Kong.
So for Alaska, 70k miles for Cathay first class is almost the best option. However, I have read posts saying sometime BA can see the availability but can't with AS; To fly Hainan airline to go back to Shenzhen, I have also read posts saying they were able to locate fares on the AS website but wasn't able to book it due to website errors. They tried to call the customer service but it's the same problem. I believe the system in Alaska has some serious problems.
I guess I could redeem cathay pacific via AA... But the first class award has gone up to 110k which is not worthy when you have AS.
UA is something I am considering cuz the partner airlines they have. 7K for business and 11K/13k first class to Asia is good but still a bit pricy compare with AS.
I guess my hesitation is on the uncertain of AS system performance. If their system is working as expected, I would put my travel package on them.
If you want to be sure to fly CX F, then you would need to cough up with AA's much higher mile cost. Though having flown CX F at least 2 to 3 times a year, I can tell you that the only value is the very comfortable bed - probably one of the most comfortable ones in the sky. Other than that, everything else is inferior to its competitors of the same caliber - from the decor of the cabin which has not been refreshed for many years, to the foods (a very sore point to CX premium cabin passengers) and the service, which very unfortunately has gone downhill a lot in recent years. (A lot to do with the management and the continuous cost-cutting).
Dont forget JL is also a partner but JL's F usually is only available come closer to departure.
You would need to decide what exactly you want - do you want the sure thing and plenty of availability over the saving of miles? Then Pay Up. Or the other way round? Then make compromises.
Keep in mind award travel is not PAY travel, hence you are subject to many restrictive factors and have to make many compromise. So you make the compromises that have the least effect on you. That is the essence of the "game".
Jun 11, 2017, 11:55 am
#2405
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 8
Marriott vacation package
I have been thinking about redeem Marriott rewards points into those 7 nights+Airline miles deals, but I have a quick question about how to use that 7 free nights. I am aware of a lot restrictions, but can I use 7 nights for two rooms in the same propertie？or it must be single room for 7 nights,? Thanks
Jun 12, 2017, 4:07 am
#2406
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
Can only be applied to one room and nights must be consecutive.
Jun 12, 2017, 11:30 am
#2407
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 31
I believe you MISS an important point about AS - AS is NOT a member of OneWprld. It does NOT receive the same number of award seats as the other OW members. Since you have read the CX availability thread in AS forum, you should have picked up the above salient point already. The Best Case scenario is AS sees one LESS seat as the OneWorld Member Airlines. The Worst Case senario is AS does NOT see any when the One World Member Airlines see more than one seat.
If you want to be sure to fly CX F, then you would need to cough up with AA's much higher mile cost. Though having flown CX F at least 2 to 3 times a year, I can tell you that the only value is the very comfortable bed - probably one of the most comfortable ones in the sky. Other than that, everything else is inferior to its competitors of the same caliber - from the decor of the cabin which has not been refreshed for many years, to the foods (a very sore point to CX premium cabin passengers) and the service, which very unfortunately has gone downhill a lot in recent years. (A lot to do with the management and the continuous cost-cutting).
Dont forget JL is also a partner but JL's F usually is only available come closer to departure.
You would need to decide what exactly you want - do you want the sure thing and plenty of availability over the saving of miles? Then Pay Up. Or the other way round? Then make compromises.
Keep in mind award travel is not PAY travel, hence you are subject to many restrictive factors and have to make many compromise. So you make the compromises that have the least effect on you. That is the essence of the "game".
If you want to be sure to fly CX F, then you would need to cough up with AA's much higher mile cost. Though having flown CX F at least 2 to 3 times a year, I can tell you that the only value is the very comfortable bed - probably one of the most comfortable ones in the sky. Other than that, everything else is inferior to its competitors of the same caliber - from the decor of the cabin which has not been refreshed for many years, to the foods (a very sore point to CX premium cabin passengers) and the service, which very unfortunately has gone downhill a lot in recent years. (A lot to do with the management and the continuous cost-cutting).
Dont forget JL is also a partner but JL's F usually is only available come closer to departure.
You would need to decide what exactly you want - do you want the sure thing and plenty of availability over the saving of miles? Then Pay Up. Or the other way round? Then make compromises.
Keep in mind award travel is not PAY travel, hence you are subject to many restrictive factors and have to make many compromise. So you make the compromises that have the least effect on you. That is the essence of the "game".
I believe I will go with AS. I rather have less flexibility than paying a lot more miles when there is a cheaper way. I did look up with JL availability and it doesn't seem to be too bad within the next 2 months.
I mainly go with CX because the city I am from is close to HKG.
Jun 12, 2017, 12:41 pm
#2408
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,574
There was a thread here a few years back about how a poster was able to redeem an award across 8 or 9 nights, with the paid night(s) in the middle of the stay. I think a phone agent had to do it, and it was only allowed as long as the entire time at the hotel was contiguous nights.
This was more of an issue back when there were two tiers of award availability. I don't know whether it's still possible...I've never asked about it myself.
This was more of an issue back when there were two tiers of award availability. I don't know whether it's still possible...I've never asked about it myself.
Jun 12, 2017, 1:10 pm
#2409
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
Jun 12, 2017, 1:18 pm
#2410
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
There was a thread here a few years back about how a poster was able to redeem an award across 8 or 9 nights, with the paid night(s) in the middle of the stay. I think a phone agent had to do it, and it was only allowed as long as the entire time at the hotel was contiguous nights.
It was a few years ago that I last tried. So not sure how easy or hard it would be today (or whether it is still possible though I'd guess it should be.)
Jun 12, 2017, 1:36 pm
#2411
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
Programs: MR LTT, BA Gold, AA LTP, UA Silver
Posts: 6,077
Now as Pinniped alluded to, the likelihood of standard rooms being available on nights where awards are not available is slim to none. The only time this would happen is when the hotel has a special event approved by corporate where they limit or totally black out awards; for example New Years at Sydney Harbour Marriott where something like the nights of Dec 30, 31 and Jan 1 may be blocked out from awards. If that were the case then one could book the nights Dec 26-29 (4 nights) with points, pay cash for nights of Dec 30-Jan 1 (3 nights) and points for nights of Jan 2-4 (3 nights) and then use their 7-night certificate.
If you haven't figured it out from the above description, a single reservation must be for a single room type. You can't mix a superior room on some nights, changing to a deluxe room or a suite on others.
Jun 12, 2017, 1:42 pm
#2412
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
If you read the post I was responding to you'd know that I was disagreeing with that posters contention that the TP usage was limited to consecutive nights.
I made no other contention beyond that limited point.
I made no other contention beyond that limited point.
They do not need to be consecutive nights, but it must be a contiguous stay (single reservation) comprised of paid and award nights.
Now as Pinniped alluded to, the likelihood of standard rooms being available on nights where awards are not available is slim to none. The only time this would happen is when the hotel has a special event approved by corporate where they limit or totally black out awards; for example New Years at Sydney Harbour Marriott where something like the nights of Dec 30, 31 and Jan 1 may be blocked out from awards. If that were the case then one could book the nights Dec 26-29 (4 nights) with points, pay cash for nights of Dec 30-Jan 1 (3 nights) and points for nights of Jan 2-4 (3 nights) and then use their 7-night certificate.
If you haven't figured it out from the above description, a single reservation must be for a single room type. You can't mix a superior room on some nights, changing to a deluxe room or a suite on others.
Now as Pinniped alluded to, the likelihood of standard rooms being available on nights where awards are not available is slim to none. The only time this would happen is when the hotel has a special event approved by corporate where they limit or totally black out awards; for example New Years at Sydney Harbour Marriott where something like the nights of Dec 30, 31 and Jan 1 may be blocked out from awards. If that were the case then one could book the nights Dec 26-29 (4 nights) with points, pay cash for nights of Dec 30-Jan 1 (3 nights) and points for nights of Jan 2-4 (3 nights) and then use their 7-night certificate.
If you haven't figured it out from the above description, a single reservation must be for a single room type. You can't mix a superior room on some nights, changing to a deluxe room or a suite on others.
Jun 12, 2017, 4:12 pm
#2413
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
There was a thread here a few years back about how a poster was able to redeem an award across 8 or 9 nights, with the paid night(s) in the middle of the stay. I think a phone agent had to do it, and it was only allowed as long as the entire time at the hotel was contiguous nights.
This was more of an issue back when there were two tiers of award availability. I don't know whether it's still possible...I've never asked about it myself.
This was more of an issue back when there were two tiers of award availability. I don't know whether it's still possible...I've never asked about it myself.
Jun 12, 2017, 5:47 pm
#2414
Join Date: May 2006
Location: EWR
Programs: UA Silver, MRP Platinum, Marriott Vacation Club Chairman, SPG Platinum, Cunard Platinum,
Posts: 967
Hi.
Can you redeem a travel package for a standard room and use an upgrade cert on the same room?
I'm looking to book the grande vista. A villa shows available for redemption plus 1 upgrade cert per night... Can I book that with a travel package, and exchange some more points to upgrade?
An upgrade cert is 2000 points per night?? Is that right??
Can you redeem a travel package for a standard room and use an upgrade cert on the same room?
I'm looking to book the grande vista. A villa shows available for redemption plus 1 upgrade cert per night... Can I book that with a travel package, and exchange some more points to upgrade?
An upgrade cert is 2000 points per night?? Is that right??
When do you want to go and what size villa do you want.
Jun 12, 2017, 6:49 pm
#2415
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,026
Over a week and my AA points not in yet