Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Jul 31, 2018, 12:17 pm
#4486
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: UA-1K, MM, Hilton-Diamond, Marriott-Titanium
Posts: 4,431
Connected with an agent in one minute and redeemed a cat 7 with UA miles in under 5 minutes, including him holding on while i verified the package in my account.
Last edited by cruisr; Jul 31, 2018 at 2:39 pm
Jul 31, 2018, 12:27 pm
#4487
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 514
Redeemed for my first TP 7 nites plus 120k AS miles last Monday.
Anyone knows how soon will the points post in AS account?
I am left with 70k spg points, May just transfer them to AS as well.
Anyone knows how soon will the points post in AS account?
I am left with 70k spg points, May just transfer them to AS as well.
Jul 31, 2018, 1:07 pm
#4488
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
I transferred to UA Sunday morning. Nothing here yet. Maybe it's because I'm in Canada. Takes longer to cross the border.
Jul 31, 2018, 1:11 pm
#4489
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,432
Can anyone confirm that these will be available for booking through Aug 15th or whenever the programs combine in Mid August?
Jul 31, 2018, 2:02 pm
#4490
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 153
I know this is a dumb question but what Phone # are you calling to book the TP certificates. I have called the phone number listed on the TP page twice and the associate has been unable to fulfill the request. Help.
Jul 31, 2018, 2:15 pm
#4492
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
This is a good breakdown, but I would add two things to this.
1.) For AC, I don't think it's too hard to extend your miles. a.) You can get the TD card and/or b.) AMEX MR are a partner and you can transfer over at any time. Both options will extend your expiration date.
2.) There is still pretty good value with AA miles too. In fact, I'd prefer AA miles over BA avios. Yes, the availability for their own flights are pretty bad, but there are some solid options on partner flights. Especially on EY, QR, CX, JL, and even IB. You do have to do a more legwork though and it pretty much always involves calling, but some good options for sure.
1.) For AC, I don't think it's too hard to extend your miles. a.) You can get the TD card and/or b.) AMEX MR are a partner and you can transfer over at any time. Both options will extend your expiration date.
2.) There is still pretty good value with AA miles too. In fact, I'd prefer AA miles over BA avios. Yes, the availability for their own flights are pretty bad, but there are some solid options on partner flights. Especially on EY, QR, CX, JL, and even IB. You do have to do a more legwork though and it pretty much always involves calling, but some good options for sure.
Jul 31, 2018, 2:32 pm
#4493
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: American/United/Emirates Marriott-Platinum Elite
Posts: 9
Hello everyone,
Never purchased a travel package and have a question. I am interested in purchasing the United 7 night 1-5 +110K miles at the older rate of 250K. The property that I am interested is currently a category 6( 30,000) but according to the new chart it will decrease to a Category 4* at 25,0000 Its. Should I purchase this and have it un attached or purchase a different current cat 5 and then cancel. When are the hotel point changes going into effect.
*Update: the property will actually be a Category 4 at 25,000 points under the new Marriott structure,
Thanking you in advance from Pittsburgh!
Never purchased a travel package and have a question. I am interested in purchasing the United 7 night 1-5 +110K miles at the older rate of 250K. The property that I am interested is currently a category 6( 30,000) but according to the new chart it will decrease to a Category 4* at 25,0000 Its. Should I purchase this and have it un attached or purchase a different current cat 5 and then cancel. When are the hotel point changes going into effect.
*Update: the property will actually be a Category 4 at 25,000 points under the new Marriott structure,
Thanking you in advance from Pittsburgh!
Last edited by FLLTrade; Jul 31, 2018 at 3:05 pm Reason: category change
Jul 31, 2018, 2:48 pm
#4494
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 546
Hello everyone,
Never purchased a travel package and have a question. I am interested in purchasing the United 7 night 1-5 +110K miles at the older rate of 250K. The property that I am interested is currently a category 6( 30,000) but according to the new chart it will decrease to a Category 5 at 25,0000 Its. Should I purchase this and have it un attached or purchase a different current cat 5 and then cancel. When are the hotel point changes going into effect.
Thanking you in advance from Pittsburgh!
Never purchased a travel package and have a question. I am interested in purchasing the United 7 night 1-5 +110K miles at the older rate of 250K. The property that I am interested is currently a category 6( 30,000) but according to the new chart it will decrease to a Category 5 at 25,0000 Its. Should I purchase this and have it un attached or purchase a different current cat 5 and then cancel. When are the hotel point changes going into effect.
Thanking you in advance from Pittsburgh!
Jul 31, 2018, 2:56 pm
#4495
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 39
Try to redeem before that date. There's no guarantee their website/backend won't break before that date or they change their mind and stop offering the packages.
Jul 31, 2018, 3:01 pm
#4496
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 6,790
<snp> The property that I am interested is currently a category 6( 30,000) but according to the new chart it will decrease to a Category 5 at 25,0000 Its. Should I purchase this and have it un attached or purchase a different current cat 5 and then cancel. When are the hotel point changes going into effect.
However, I'm confused about the property you have in mind. You say it moves from a Cat 6 under the old chart at 30,000 points per night to Cat 5 at 25,000 points per night under the new chart, but as I read the new chart Cat 5 is 35,000 points per night. If you can tell us the name of the property, we could check, or you can go here and do so: https://points-redemption.marriott.com/category-change. Something doesn't seem right.
Jul 31, 2018, 3:09 pm
#4497
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 308
My favorite method to extend AC/AP miles is to transfer 1 Starpoint to AC/AP. I'm not sure this SPG Platinum benefit will survive the merger, though. For redemption on CX/JL, I wouldn't use AA miles since it's much cheaper and more flexible (for stopovers, etc.) to use AS miles.
Jul 31, 2018, 3:39 pm
#4498
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: American/United/Emirates Marriott-Platinum Elite
Posts: 9
The property is Renaissance Tuscany Il Ciocco Resort & SpaRenaissanceItalyIn the current award chart it is a Cat 6 at 30,000 points. In the new chart it is a Cat. 4 at 25,000 pts.( I made an initial mistake thinking it was a Cat 5). So todays Cat 1-5 at 250 K + the 110K United miles interests me. The new award chart has the comparable award at 330K.
Jul 31, 2018, 4:41 pm
#4499
Join Date: May 1998
Posts: 3,062
My AA miles from a TP purchased on 7/25 posted overnight. I needed AA miles for a specific redemption I had on hold and they came through in time.
Now I want to buy one more TP, purely on spec with no destination in mind, but can't decide what airline to use. All my current miles are with AA and BA, but I have enough Avios to last me quite a while. So I'm considering AS and UA. Being DC based, I guess UA makes sense, especially given the 10% Marriott bonus for UA, but the last time I had significant UA miles many years ago, award inventory sucked. I know AS is supposed to be the best value, but is that true from the DC area? Oh, and I'm only interested in flying up front, in Business or First Class.
Now I want to buy one more TP, purely on spec with no destination in mind, but can't decide what airline to use. All my current miles are with AA and BA, but I have enough Avios to last me quite a while. So I'm considering AS and UA. Being DC based, I guess UA makes sense, especially given the 10% Marriott bonus for UA, but the last time I had significant UA miles many years ago, award inventory sucked. I know AS is supposed to be the best value, but is that true from the DC area? Oh, and I'm only interested in flying up front, in Business or First Class.
Jul 31, 2018, 4:47 pm
#4500
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Intermountain West
Programs: Too many to list
Posts: 12,080
My AA miles from a TP purchased on 7/25 posted overnight. I needed AA miles for a specific redemption I had on hold and they came through in time.
Now I want to buy one more TP, purely on spec with no destination in mind, but can't decide what airline to use. All my current miles are with AA and BA, but I have enough Avios to last me quite a while. So I'm considering AS and UA. Being DC based, I guess UA makes sense, especially given the 10% Marriott bonus for UA, but the last time I had significant UA miles many years ago, award inventory sucked. I know AS is supposed to be the best value, but is that true from the DC area? Oh, and I'm only interested in flying up front, in Business or First Class.
Now I want to buy one more TP, purely on spec with no destination in mind, but can't decide what airline to use. All my current miles are with AA and BA, but I have enough Avios to last me quite a while. So I'm considering AS and UA. Being DC based, I guess UA makes sense, especially given the 10% Marriott bonus for UA, but the last time I had significant UA miles many years ago, award inventory sucked. I know AS is supposed to be the best value, but is that true from the DC area? Oh, and I'm only interested in flying up front, in Business or First Class.