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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select Packages - Deals from the Topic drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
#4261
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 46
A different question: I want to stay at the Marriott County Hall hotel in London for 4 nights in Aug. 2019. The booking calendar only goes into early July 2019. Should I book 5 nights @45k=180k now using points alone for July 2019 (getting no air miles) and as soon that I can move the date as the calendar opens for Aug. 2019 (without having to pay more points since the rates will have increased)…. Or would it be better for me to book a 7 night vacation package @390k for this category 9 Marriott, taking the 132K United miles now, reserving 7 nights in July 2019, and hoping that as the calendar opens I will be able to move the 7 nights into August once available, even though I’m only going to use 5 nights (without having to pay more points since the rates will have increased). Which makes better sense assuming booking these before Aug. 1...or Aug. 17, 2018. Also if I cannot book 7 consecutive nights, does that mean I will not be able to use any of the package? If I can book 7 consecutive nights, is it OK if I only use the first 5 nights without penalty, losing of course the final 2 nights.
Last edited by tarkaboy; Jul 27, 2018 at 5:50 am Reason: not sufficient
#4262
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 534
I go into Costco and purchase a $100.00 Gift certificate for my favourite restaurant for $80.00 and later decide that I don't want it, when I return them to Costco, how much will I get back? Hint! It is NOT $100.00 yet so many believe that is what is owed to them? Why?
#4263
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,756
A different question: I want to stay at the Marriott County Hall hotel in London for 4 nights in Aug. 2019. The booking calendar only goes into early July 2019. Should I book 5 nights @45k=180k now using points alone for July 2019 (getting no air miles) and as soon that I can move the date as the calendar opens for Aug. 2019 (without having to pay more points since the rates will have increased). Or would it be better for me to book a 7 night vacation package @390k for this category 9 Marriott, taking the 132K United miles now, reserving 7 nights in July 2019, and hoping that as the calendar opens I will be able to move the 7 nights into August once available, even though Im only going to use 5 nights (without having to pay more points since the rates will have increased). Which makes better sense assuming booking these before Aug. 1...or Aug. 17, 2018. Also if I cannot book 7 consecutive nights, does that mean I will not be able to use any of the package? If I can book 7 consecutive nights, is it OK if I only use the first 5 nights without penalty, losing of course the final 2 nights.
#4264
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: CHS
Programs: UA GS, Bonvoy Amabassador, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,589
I do not see why people expect greater points than residual value ....I had to return my 7nt, Cat 6 certif. because of a hurricane; Marriott extended it 1 year, but health prevented my second trip. Marriott returned 75k points (I understand Cat 1-5 returns yield 45k points). Why should Marriott now return more than that for floaters / unassigned certifs.? We already get the air miles up front.
Well, for one reason
I bought my cert prior to merger because lurker said it was the best value and it was, but I want to attach to a Westin that will be cat 6 after the merger. At that point if it is converted to 75K points, I can stay 1.5 nights. As long as whatever is done allows me to stay 7 nights at a cat 6 Westin after the conversion, I am fine with.
#4265
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,756
Just redeemed 5 7-night TP and the call was picked up in 20 seconds and all was done in 10 minutes. Points are gone from my account and I decided to attach to the same hotel I frequent to. I verified all reservations have certificate attached to them but strangely I am still seeing two unused certificate. I am waiting for CC statement to close so that I can do one more float. Hope I won't regret it.
#4266
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 301
Well, for one reason
I bought my cert prior to merger because lurker said it was the best value and it was, but I want to attach to a Westin that will be cat 6 after the merger. At that point if it is converted to 75K points, I can stay 1.5 nights. As long as whatever is done allows me to stay 7 nights at a cat 6 Westin after the conversion, I am fine with.
I bought my cert prior to merger because lurker said it was the best value and it was, but I want to attach to a Westin that will be cat 6 after the merger. At that point if it is converted to 75K points, I can stay 1.5 nights. As long as whatever is done allows me to stay 7 nights at a cat 6 Westin after the conversion, I am fine with.
be refunded. What on earth made you think you could buy a pre-merger Marriott TP and use it for a 7 night post-merger stay at a SPG property ?
#4267
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 745
I do not see why people expect greater points than residual value ....I had to return my 7nt, Cat 6 certif. because of a hurricane; Marriott extended it 1 year, but health prevented my second trip. Marriott returned 75k points (I understand Cat 1-5 returns yield 45k points). Why should Marriott now return more than that for floaters / unassigned certifs.? We already get the air miles up front.
I have no clue why certain people seem so insistent on this facially absurd position.
#4268
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 46
Well, for one reason
I bought my cert prior to merger because lurker said it was the best value and it was, but I want to attach to a Westin that will be cat 6 after the merger. At that point if it is converted to 75K points, I can stay 1.5 nights. As long as whatever is done allows me to stay 7 nights at a cat 6 Westin after the conversion, I am fine with.
I bought my cert prior to merger because lurker said it was the best value and it was, but I want to attach to a Westin that will be cat 6 after the merger. At that point if it is converted to 75K points, I can stay 1.5 nights. As long as whatever is done allows me to stay 7 nights at a cat 6 Westin after the conversion, I am fine with.
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#4270
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: CHS
Programs: UA GS, Bonvoy Amabassador, Hertz PC
Posts: 2,589
Well, Lurker also said that unattached TPs will be cancelled and “equivalent points” (meaning to be determined sometime in the future) would
be refunded. What on earth made you think you could buy a pre-merger Marriott TP and use it for a 7 night post-merger stay at a SPG property ?
Nonsense. If I have in my possession a certificate worth 7 nights in a hotel I have a right to redeem it for that. The residual value has no relevance unless I choose to forgo that value in lieu of points. Unilaterally cancelling certs and returning the residual value is nothing like that.
I have no clue why certain people seem so insistent on this facially absurd position.
I have no clue why certain people seem so insistent on this facially absurd position.
As far as putting in on the reservation post merger, no one can answer, I have asked.
I was kind of hoping there would be a 2 week grace time or something to allow it, but it **seems** that on Aug 18 in order to sync everything up and combine points etc, they have to be liquidated.
Exactly, but I was willing to gamble, interested as everyone else to see how it plays out
#4271
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
I do not see why people expect greater points than residual value ....I had to return my 7nt, Cat 6 certif. because of a hurricane; Marriott extended it 1 year, but health prevented my second trip. Marriott returned 75k points (I understand Cat 1-5 returns yield 45k points). Why should Marriott now return more than that for floaters / unassigned certifs.? We already get the air miles up front.
#4272
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QR/AC Gold, VA Silver, IHG Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 1,581
I have attached a floater Cat 7 cert with a dummy booking as far out as possible, with that hotel moving to new Cat 6 ..... Hoping that the post 18/8 that cert attached will become new Cat 6.
Maybe that's what Lurker mentioned to attach for maximum value.
Maybe that's what Lurker mentioned to attach for maximum value.
#4273
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 534
BTW, what Lurker said was that you should attach your certificate to "maximize its usage" . "Usage" isn't the same as "value".
#4274
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: MIA
Posts: 497
Heads up, Redeem by 8/3.https://samchui.com/2018/07/27/marri...able-august-3/
Last edited by sgan317; Jul 27, 2018 at 8:15 am
#4275
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 534
Heads up, Redeem by 8/3. https://samchui.com/2018/07/27/marriott-hotel-air-packages-no-longer-bookable-august-3/
https://samchui.com/2018/07/27/marri...able-august-3/