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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
May 13, 2018, 10:30 pm
#3121
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
May 14, 2018, 3:23 am
#3122
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
I have a cat 1-5 cert. My next stay will need 160 points at a Cat 9 for 5 nights. Am I right in thinking that it would be a waste to upgrade a cat 1-5 cert for 120k to use for 5 nights and loose two nights. The cert will be more valuable in the coming months right?
May 14, 2018, 6:30 am
#3123
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PDX-EUG
Posts: 131
Silly question - when y'all say there has to be standard award availability - does that mean if a room is available for award redemption on their website, that is a standard award and a certificate can be applied? I just assumed if a room was available when I queried a hotel I wish to stay for 7 days, that it is the hotel's 'standard' room. In other words - how can I tell it's the 'standard' room that's available? Thanks!
May 14, 2018, 8:30 am
#3124
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: N Charleston South Carolina
Programs: UA PM (by 2MM), DL GM (by 3.5MM), Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,655
Silly question - when y'all say there has to be standard award availability - does that mean if a room is available for award redemption on their website, that is a standard award and a certificate can be applied? I just assumed if a room was available when I queried a hotel I wish to stay for 7 days, that it is the hotel's 'standard' room. In other words - how can I tell it's the 'standard' room that's available? Thanks!
For example, if the only thing you see is a points plus upgrade certs or points plus $, then standard upgrade nights are not available. If I encounter such a thing (rare), I call the hotel directly and talk to their in house reservation group (if that exists). I explain that I would get an upgrade anyway (for free as a plat) so would they let me book my room for the standard award rate? I've only encountered this a few times, mostly trying to get three rooms for a couple of weeks at a time and a few nights were not available at the low redemption rate. This is not to say that I never encounter no reward availability at all; this can happen if the hotel is sold out or nearly full. That happens during a peak season or special event.
Billy
May 14, 2018, 9:34 am
#3125
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PDX-EUG
Posts: 131
Thanks, Billy. That's very helpful.
May 14, 2018, 5:03 pm
#3126
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
If I have a reservation under my name can my partner buy a travel package and use it for this reservation? There are no more rooms so we can't book a new room. I know there is a longer way to make this work by transferring it to me through SPG but just trying to avoid the hassle.
May 14, 2018, 10:38 pm
#3127
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
If I have a reservation under my name can my partner buy a travel package and use it for this reservation? There are no more rooms so we can't book a new room. I know there is a longer way to make this work by transferring it to me through SPG but just trying to avoid the hassle.
Hope this help.
May 15, 2018, 3:43 am
#3128
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Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
I had been told NO by a couple phone agents in the past (12+ months ago) as it does required a cancel and rebook under the cert owner's account. What I end up did is randomly book something in advance under the cert owner's account, then call the hotel and explain that I would like to do "xyz" and they override on their end and process the cancellation at the same time. On top of that, they pre-upgrade me to a M Club room at that time over the phone (about 3 months before I check-in)
Hope this help.
Hope this help.
I was reading that Cat 9 won't be there from Aug to Dec this year. So what happens if you use a cat 9 cert? Do you get the 30k points back?
May 15, 2018, 7:10 am
#3129
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
Cat 9 is under the current categories, not under the new one. Category 9 currently requires 45k/night and is likely to map into the new Cat 6 (50k/night)
May 15, 2018, 10:35 am
#3130
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Posts: 12,210
I am confused. So will my voucher be worth less under the new scheme? I am thinking of redeeming a voucher that I have against a 5 night stay. Don't want to waste the two extra nights but if its gonna be worth less then might as well burn it now.
May 15, 2018, 10:50 am
#3131
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
New redemption levels for Marriott's 6500 hotels (29 brands) will be published before August 1, based on the new loyalty program categories (which will replace Marriott Rewards categories, SPG categories, and Ritz-Carlton Rewards tiers, and do not map directly to any of them). Some hotels will go up; some will go down; and some will remain the same. In 2019, there will be additional charges to redemption.
I would also expect to see detailed terms and conditions before August, including more details about existing e-certifcates.
It seems to me that you could book something now using the existing e-certificate. The reservation could be before or after August, as long as the e-certifcate is valid and there is availability at the hotel. Then, once the new levels are published, you could see if it would be better to cancel and rebook (or book someplace else) under the new redemption numbers.
Last edited by Horace; May 15, 2018 at 2:57 pm
May 15, 2018, 11:56 am
#3133
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
A 7-night e-certifcate for a Rewards category will become a 7-night e-certifcate for a comparable number of points per night.
New redemption levels for Marriott's 6500 hotels (29 brands) will be published before August 1, based on the new loyalty program categories (which will replace Marriott Rewards categories, SPG categories, and Ritz-Carlton Rewards tiers, and do not map directly to any of them). Some hotels will go up; some will go down; and some will remain the same. In 2019, there will be additional charges to redemption.
I would also expect to see detailed terms and conditions before August, including more details about existing e-certifcates.
It seems to me that you could book something now using the existing e-certifcate. The reservation could be before or after August, as long as the e-certifcate is valid and there is availability at the hotel. Then, once the new levels are published, you could see if it would be better to cancel and rebook (or book someplace else) under the new redemption numbers.
New redemption levels for Marriott's 6500 hotels (29 brands) will be published before August 1, based on the new loyalty program categories (which will replace Marriott Rewards categories, SPG categories, and Ritz-Carlton Rewards tiers, and do not map directly to any of them). Some hotels will go up; some will go down; and some will remain the same. In 2019, there will be additional charges to redemption.
I would also expect to see detailed terms and conditions before August, including more details about existing e-certifcates.
It seems to me that you could book something now using the existing e-certifcate. The reservation could be before or after August, as long as the e-certifcate is valid and there is availability at the hotel. Then, once the new levels are published, you could see if it would be better to cancel and rebook (or book someplace else) under the new redemption numbers.
May 15, 2018, 3:06 pm
#3134
Join Date: May 2002
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum, United Silver, Marriott Titanium Elite
Posts: 2,276
There is not a direct mapping between old categories and new categories.
An entirely new category chart has been announced. There will be fewer categories in the new (August 2018) loyalty program -- just 7 categories in August, with 8th to be added in 2019 (along with off-peak and peak in 2019).
The Marriott Rewards categories (9 catgories), SPG categories (7 categories, but with a point range in most of them), and Ritz-Carlton Rewards tiers (5 tiers) will go away,
An entirely new category chart has been announced. There will be fewer categories in the new (August 2018) loyalty program -- just 7 categories in August, with 8th to be added in 2019 (along with off-peak and peak in 2019).
The Marriott Rewards categories (9 catgories), SPG categories (7 categories, but with a point range in most of them), and Ritz-Carlton Rewards tiers (5 tiers) will go away,