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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.

The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:

Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
  • Select Packages - Deals from the Topic drop down menu
  • Submit your request
As a reminder, status.marriott.com will periodically have additional updates.
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html

The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.

Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:

"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Old Apr 30, 2001, 2:47 pm
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THe Marriott rewards rep I spoke to today was extremely nice and very knowledgeable (he didn't have to keep putting me on hold to check for answers). He stated very clearly that hotel cets ordered under the old 713, 714 etc. programs CANNOT be renewed or extended since those awards are going away. If you return the hotel portion of a 713 you get 50,000 points credited back, If you return both 10 day hotel certs under the 714 they will credit you back exactly 106,250 points for returning both certs. Now I have a question. dhacker states that Marriott will not deposit more than 60,000 miles per person (120,000 for 713 reward) no matter what. Are you sure about this? According to the American AIrlines Advantage chart it takes 65,000 FF miles for a "Plan Ahead Coach Seat" to Japan. That is as few FF miles as you can get away with unless you want to be put in a crate in the baggage compartment. Are you sure that if you tell Marriott that you are going to Japan on Maserican they will only give you 120,000 FF miles???
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Old Apr 30, 2001, 3:19 pm
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I am 100% certain about the cap of 60k miles per ticket. Many people have tried to press this issue with Marriott Rewards to no avail. I'm sure you can find many posts to that effect by using FT's search feature.

I suggest someone call back about the issue of whether the 106k point refund is for one cert or two. My information may be wrong, but since it comes from multiple sources, I think it is more likely that the rep KathyP spoke with was mistaken. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. But if I'm right, it could be very profitable for some of you fortunate enough to have those big balances!
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Old Apr 30, 2001, 3:23 pm
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I should also add that when I first heard about it, I thought the information must be wrong. It seemed unlikely that they would give 50k for redeposit of a 7-night cert but more than twice that for a 10-night cert.
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Old Apr 30, 2001, 3:27 pm
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Imagine that! Two different reps telling us two different things! Hhhhmmmmm, maybe we need to email and get the answer in writing?
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Old Apr 30, 2001, 3:53 pm
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That's exactly what Marriott did to me. I ordered a 713 reward and told them I would be using it for 2 rt coach economy tix on Delta to Guangzhou, China for which Delta requires 80,000 miles. Marriott does have a location right in Guangzhou. They went back and forth on this with me, giving various excuses, but ultimately the final word from Marriott was that 60,000 miles per ticket was the maximum they would give. Have not heard of any instances on this board where more were given.
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Old May 1, 2001, 12:13 pm
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Originally posted by msrohud:
EACH 10 day certificate is worth 106,250 points. Divide the 425,000 points by 4. Each set of 2 tickets are valued at 106,250 points (you get 2 "sets") and each 10 day cert is worth 106,250. At least that's how the rep I talked to said it worked.

That's not quite correct - but the calculation is along the same lines. For either the 713 or the 714 the hotel portion is worth one fourth of the total required points - 50,000 is one fourth of 200,000 and 106,250 is one fourth of 425,000. That's how they do the calculation so its 106,250 for both certificates not each certificate.
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Old May 1, 2001, 1:08 pm
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Originally posted by dhacker:
I should also add that when I first heard about it, I thought the information must be wrong. It seemed unlikely that they would give 50k for redeposit of a 7-night cert but more than twice that for a 10-night cert.
I have first-hand experience at redepositing the 2x10 night hotel certificates. EACH 10-night hotel certificate is worth 106,250 points.

This is an example of what is shown on your on-line statement:

3/27/01 970 TRAVEL PACKAGE REWARD
Partial Award Credit 106,250

3/27/01 970 TRAVEL PACKAGE REWARD
Partial Award Credit 106,250


Originally posted by snackyx:
The lesson: if you are not going to use the ten night stay, go for the 200,000 award twice. Any unused nights of the hotel certificates just go drifting off into the ozone--you cannot roll them over to another stay at another property. I am sure Marriott has made out nicely with the number of never redeemed nights on these long stay certifiactes.
If you are not going to use the 2x10 night hotel certificate, then you should issue the 425k award, bank your 240,000 air miles. Redeposit your 2x10 night hotel certificate. Get 212,500 Marriott points back and then issue the 200k award. That will give you a total of 360,000 miles and a more usable 7 night hotel certificate.
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Old May 1, 2001, 1:28 pm
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dhacker & bagold, that's a great piece of info! Thanks to both of you.

Now, how quickly will the 2 certs be redeposited in the account? Since the end of the program is 7/31, is there time to still complete both transactions?

[This message has been edited by shadow (edited 05-01-2001).]
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Old May 1, 2001, 9:42 pm
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Originally posted by shadow:
dhacker & bagold, that's a great piece of info! Thanks to both of you.

Now, how quickly will the 2 certs be redeposited in the account? Since the end of the program is 7/31, is there time to still complete both transactions?

[This message has been edited by shadow (edited 05-01-2001).]
shadow, you will need around 10 days to receive the package, and then around 2 weeks after you send it back to have the points redeposited. You should have enough time depending on when you have the 425k (assuming you don't have it yet).
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Old May 2, 2001, 9:19 am
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Just got off the phone with Nicole @ Marriott CS. The award info I got was as follows:

* Can pool points from our accounts, but we both need to sign an affadivit. I can't get the form until I call back with my wife's MR number. Then they mail it for us to sign & return. Then the award will be issued.

* Hotel awards for 714 can be redeposited for 106,250 points EACH.

* Fee to return hotel awards is $20.

I'm going to call back later with my wife's account number and ask the same questions again. I'll let everyone know if I get any different answers...

Part II (the second call)

This CSR was much nicer & far more helpful.
She said as long as I had my wife's account # she could fill out the form NOW & fax it to me immediately (the other CSR said it HAD TO BE MAILED). We just need to sign, select which airline and fax it back. She said the miles should be deposited in 10-14 days.

* Confirmed 106,250 pts. per cert for redeposit.

* Confirmed $20 fee.

Another question I forgot to ask the first time was...Can the airline miles be split between 2 carriers? I was told they could NOT be split, must all go to same FF account.

I guess that covers everything...now I just need to deal with all of the transactions.

(edited to add Part II)

[This message has been edited by shadow (edited 05-02-2001).]
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Old May 2, 2001, 12:05 pm
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Are the Hertz 25% discount awards contained in MR awards 713 & 714 good for a fixed number of rental days or can you use them for a rental of any length?
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Old May 2, 2001, 1:13 pm
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My 713 Hertz certificate says "25% off a Hertz rental for up to eight (8) days on select car classes at participating corporate airport locations in the US & Europe"."Certificates are non-transferable and must be used for consecutive rental days and will be deemed fully used once a rental has begun". "...not to be combined with any other certs, promos, discounts, or special rates".
Othrer than that, I don't see anything specifically prohibiting you from renting the car for a longer period of time.
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Old May 2, 2001, 1:36 pm
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You can rent the vehicle for any length of time...but the 25% discount will only apply up to 8 days...I think this better answers his question.
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Old May 2, 2001, 2:01 pm
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See my post above for 'the rest of the story'.
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Old May 2, 2001, 2:43 pm
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Shadow, if you can return the hotel certs for over 212K points, award 714 is an incredible deal! Imagine 240K miles for 213K MR points.
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