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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Mar 26, 2018, 2:34 pm
#2866
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 742
Specifically put in three adults and one child. You will need to specify the child's age. What is considered a child can vary by location, but four will definitely be a child everywhere and eighteen will likely be an adult. The site shows you the eligible ages after you enter the number of children.
Mar 26, 2018, 2:52 pm
#2867
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,559
I would not rely on the website. I just plugged in two adults and two children to a hotel and it came up as completely unavailable (2 adults had plenty of online availability). Right next to the room thing it says "Max 6 guests per room" So calling in and adding after booking might suffice. Might want to call 1st to see if it is within their policy. YMMV.
You can *usually* tell by the room type if 4 will be comfortable, tight, or flat-out impossible. For some hotels, I just know. e.g. An SHS 2-queen + sofabed is comfortable for 2 adults and 2 teenagers. Most standard 2-queen Marriott rooms are tight but doable. For other hotels, I come to FT and see what people are saying about them. Oddly enough, some suites have odd floorplans that make them tight for 4 people. I assume with the 18-month-old, you're looking for some decent floor space to put a pop-up crib or similar...
If it's a large North American city that I know has dozens of newer-build Marriotts across brand levels, I'll sometimes even search for 5 in one room - just to filter the list down to all but the biggest rooms and 2-bedroom suites. (Does not yield many full-service Marriotts and not as useful outside U.S./Canada.)
Mar 26, 2018, 2:58 pm
#2868
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
I would not rely on the website. I just plugged in two adults and two children to a hotel and it came up as completely unavailable (2 adults had plenty of online availability). Right next to the room thing it says "Max 6 guests per room" So calling in and adding after booking might suffice. Might want to call 1st to see if it is within their policy. YMMV.
Mar 26, 2018, 11:59 pm
#2869
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 742
Wonder if that's just sloppy text...they have one suite that would sleep 6 but that copy shows up everywhere...
You can *usually* tell by the room type if 4 will be comfortable, tight, or flat-out impossible. For some hotels, I just know. e.g. An SHS 2-queen + sofabed is comfortable for 2 adults and 2 teenagers. Most standard 2-queen Marriott rooms are tight but doable. For other hotels, I come to FT and see what people are saying about them. Oddly enough, some suites have odd floorplans that make them tight for 4 people. I assume with the 18-month-old, you're looking for some decent floor space to put a pop-up crib or similar...
If it's a large North American city that I know has dozens of newer-build Marriotts across brand levels, I'll sometimes even search for 5 in one room - just to filter the list down to all but the biggest rooms and 2-bedroom suites. (Does not yield many full-service Marriotts and not as useful outside U.S./Canada.)
You can *usually* tell by the room type if 4 will be comfortable, tight, or flat-out impossible. For some hotels, I just know. e.g. An SHS 2-queen + sofabed is comfortable for 2 adults and 2 teenagers. Most standard 2-queen Marriott rooms are tight but doable. For other hotels, I come to FT and see what people are saying about them. Oddly enough, some suites have odd floorplans that make them tight for 4 people. I assume with the 18-month-old, you're looking for some decent floor space to put a pop-up crib or similar...
If it's a large North American city that I know has dozens of newer-build Marriotts across brand levels, I'll sometimes even search for 5 in one room - just to filter the list down to all but the biggest rooms and 2-bedroom suites. (Does not yield many full-service Marriotts and not as useful outside U.S./Canada.)
Maximum Occupancy: 2
1 King
Sofa bed
Rollaway beds permitted: 1
Cribs permitted: 1
Maximum cribs/rollaway beds permitted: 2
Featherbed, and Duvet
So max two people, but you can have a crib, rollaway, queen-pullout, and king bed... Like in this case it won't allow to be booked for more than two people online...
However the standard one king (no sofabed) allows to book for 3 people (you can do a rollaway). Two doubles 3 people as well (but not 4).
Calling (or emailing) may yield different results. Places like Paris (as someone else just mentioned) are particular about these things, best to confirm with the hotel.
Mar 27, 2018, 8:39 am
#2870
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,750
I dont know where to post this tidbit - may be some of you already know.
After calling Marriott Reward to extend the cert for another year, the new information of the cert does not show up in the new site Activity screen even after lengthy time has passed (like over an hour).
However when I clicked Customer Support and then it led me to another screen with all the telephone numbers and such, at the top right hand corner, miraculously you now are able to get back the OLD site's "At a Glance" style of your account - where under the Activity I now see this -
On another note, is now the access to the Old site is completely gone?
After calling Marriott Reward to extend the cert for another year, the new information of the cert does not show up in the new site Activity screen even after lengthy time has passed (like over an hour).
However when I clicked Customer Support and then it led me to another screen with all the telephone numbers and such, at the top right hand corner, miraculously you now are able to get back the OLD site's "At a Glance" style of your account - where under the Activity I now see this -
Account Activity
Last transaction
That is the indication the Cert has been extended with the partial points of 45,000 (Cat 5 cert).Last transaction
- 03/27/2018
- 7 Night Travel Package Category 1-5 Hotels
- Total Earnings: 45,000 points
On another note, is now the access to the Old site is completely gone?
Last edited by Happy; Mar 27, 2018 at 10:13 am
Mar 27, 2018, 9:08 am
#2871
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,559
Lots of inconsistencies. Here are the room details for a junior suite, 1 bedroom suite, and VP suite (same verbiage for each).
Maximum Occupancy: 2
1 King
Sofa bed
Rollaway beds permitted: 1
Cribs permitted: 1
Maximum cribs/rollaway beds permitted: 2
Featherbed, and Duvet
So max two people, but you can have a crib, rollaway, queen-pullout, and king bed... Like in this case it won't allow to be booked for more than two people online...
However the standard one king (no sofabed) allows to book for 3 people (you can do a rollaway). Two doubles 3 people as well (but not 4).
Calling (or emailing) may yield different results. Places like Paris (as someone else just mentioned) are particular about these things, best to confirm with the hotel.
Maximum Occupancy: 2
1 King
Sofa bed
Rollaway beds permitted: 1
Cribs permitted: 1
Maximum cribs/rollaway beds permitted: 2
Featherbed, and Duvet
So max two people, but you can have a crib, rollaway, queen-pullout, and king bed... Like in this case it won't allow to be booked for more than two people online...
However the standard one king (no sofabed) allows to book for 3 people (you can do a rollaway). Two doubles 3 people as well (but not 4).
Calling (or emailing) may yield different results. Places like Paris (as someone else just mentioned) are particular about these things, best to confirm with the hotel.
Mar 27, 2018, 9:09 pm
#2872
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
Programs: MR LT Titanium, IHG Plat.,UA Premier Silver, & PA/OH Turnpike Million Miler
Posts: 2,311
Specifically put in three adults and one child. You will need to specify the child's age. What is considered a child can vary by location, but four will definitely be a child everywhere and eighteen will likely be an adult. The site shows you the eligible ages after you enter the number of children.
--Jon
Mar 29, 2018, 4:00 pm
#2873
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 68
Thanks all - will have a look at hotels that officially allow 4 in a room, but will also bear in mind the potential flexibility given their ages... when we just had one child I would normally book a room for 2 adult so and then email the hotel asking for a crib in the room and didn't ever have an issue. Haven't wanted to risk that with 2 children though as we definitely need the extra space!
Given that the travel package will be for a 7 night stay, I dont think we'd enjoy being cramped into a room designed to 2 - especially as bed times can be a bit tricky at the best of times at the moment!
Given that the travel package will be for a 7 night stay, I dont think we'd enjoy being cramped into a room designed to 2 - especially as bed times can be a bit tricky at the best of times at the moment!
Apr 1, 2018, 4:47 pm
#2874
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Indianapolis IN USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador Elite, Lifetime Platinum Elite, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 404
Two weeks ago I called the MR number and asked to book a 5-night package. They said they couldn't do it but gave me the number of the division that could handle my request. The number turned out to be for the Marriott Vacation Club. The first thing the agent did was verify my MVCI membership. I was able to book the package, but I don't think a non-member/owner would be successful.
Apr 1, 2018, 6:33 pm
#2875
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 19
Do you guys think Alaska is the best program to choose for the miles part of the travel package? I know preferences can vary widely but the CX redemptions are pretty appealing to me for 70k in F.
Apr 1, 2018, 6:58 pm
#2876
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
I will likely get another vacation package this year but now that I am bulked up on AS points and likely will not do two back to back vacations to CX territory I am still deciding on which airline partner would be best. It will be one that gives me a decent chance of a premium cabin redemption for multiple people to the region I pick for the following vacation.
Apr 2, 2018, 9:45 am
#2877
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,559
The CX F award is popular, but getting multiple seats on the same flight is quite difficult using AS miles. It'll be my wife and I traveling, and my guess is we'll be looking at 1 F + 1 J (or just 2 J).
Apr 4, 2018, 7:39 am
#2878
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,597
Providing a data point on miles being credited.
I ordered a Travel Package last Friday (30 Mar 18) with the miles being credited to Alaska Mileage Plan (AS MP). The miles were posted as of this morning (4 Apr 18). So, including weekend days it took five days for miles to be processed and credited.
I ordered a Travel Package last Friday (30 Mar 18) with the miles being credited to Alaska Mileage Plan (AS MP). The miles were posted as of this morning (4 Apr 18). So, including weekend days it took five days for miles to be processed and credited.
Apr 5, 2018, 5:16 pm
#2879
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 297
If you are planning a trip for which you can use an AS award for travel on CX (or possibly JAL for travel near Japan) then I would say yes. I ordered my first travel package last year and chose Alaksa with the idea of redeeming for either EK or CX with a preference to CX if my vacation lands in their travel regions. I have used AS in the past for JAL F redemption and was very happy.
I will likely get another vacation package this year but now that I am bulked up on AS points and likely will not do two back to back vacations to CX territory I am still deciding on which airline partner would be best. It will be one that gives me a decent chance of a premium cabin redemption for multiple people to the region I pick for the following vacation.
I will likely get another vacation package this year but now that I am bulked up on AS points and likely will not do two back to back vacations to CX territory I am still deciding on which airline partner would be best. It will be one that gives me a decent chance of a premium cabin redemption for multiple people to the region I pick for the following vacation.
When I redeemed the marriott packages, I got 162000 aeroplan pt per package...awesome deal cuz I only needed 150000 per person to go a half around the world trip.
Apr 6, 2018, 10:47 am
#2880
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: ]
Posts: 33
I have the best luck with aeroplan to redeem for 6 business class seats at a time for our upcoming trip from Toronto to London England then to Taiwan and back to Toronto. Each person paid $450 taxes which included the $250 LHR air port charges for business class ppl.
When I redeemed the marriott packages, I got 162000 aeroplan pt per package...awesome deal cuz I only needed 150000 per person to go a half around the world trip.