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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.

The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:

Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
  • Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
  • Submit your request
As a reminder, status.marriott.com will periodically have additional updates.
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html

The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.

Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:

"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Old Feb 2, 18, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by ktmangione View Post
I have two querstions. I have a category 8 package to use this year.
I am going to the los angeles area. If I am doing tourist sightseeing what are would be best?
Second question - When I look at residence inns it says reward is for studio. What is the probility that I can get upgraded to the normal suite room?
If you are Gold/Plat, the Studio to "regular 1 bedroom" upgrade is fairly common. Frankly, the room sizes aren't all that different in many RI's, but when we had small children sleeping on the pull-out it was nice to have the door separating the bedroom.

The harder upgrade to get at RI is the 1- to 2-bedroom, as many properties have very few 2BR to give.

"The Los Angeles area" is huge. We've taken a few vacation trips to the area and tend to settle in the Huntington Beach or Newport Beach areas, but usually only head into LA and SD (the cities themselves) one day each. Other than that, we stay fairly local to the beach towns near our hotel... Map out the places you want to visit and then select a hotel near there - one that minimizes your time spent in traffic.
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Old Feb 2, 18, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ktmangione View Post
I have two querstions. I have a category 8 package to use this year.
I am going to the los angeles area. If I am doing tourist sightseeing what are would be best?
Second question - When I look at residence inns it says reward is for studio. What is the probility that I can get upgraded to the normal suite room?
Upgrades to 2-bedroom suites are common on weekends, but tougher to come by mid-week. It's the 7-night length of the cert that makes the upgrade difficult. You could ask if they would upgrade to a 2-bedroom for additional points, but if they do not have availability, that is unlikely to help.
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Old Feb 3, 18, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by lexdevil View Post
Upgrades to 2-bedroom suites are common on weekends, but tougher to come by mid-week. It's the 7-night length of the cert that makes the upgrade difficult. You could ask if they would upgrade to a 2-bedroom for additional points, but if they do not have availability, that is unlikely to help.
I stayed in the Residence Inn Arcadia in December using a 7 night Marriott cert. I actually booked it last minute and called up the hotel prior to booking asking if I booked the hotel for 7 nights with the certificate, would I get an upgrade to a 2 bedroom suite(as a Gold). The guy working there was very nice and said that normally they only give upgrades for 2-3 nights but he checked availability and they were quiet that week so he said if I booked it and arrived before he went off shift, he would upgrade me for the week. I called Marriott and booked it and checked into the property 2 hours later and got the upgrade. Am pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten it if I not asked in advance(maybe if I had asked nicely at checkin). Def helped me decide which LA property to book
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Old Feb 4, 18, 10:20 am
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Does anyone know if you can use one of these packages at their Vacation Club properties, called Marriott but they did not know the answer and the Vaction Club number they gave me is not open over the weekend. Thanks
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Old Feb 4, 18, 10:29 am
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You can if a points reservation is available.
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Old Feb 4, 18, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by jtp1947 View Post
You can if a points reservation is available.
Thanks again!
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Old Feb 4, 18, 1:00 pm
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Just cashed in for a Cat 1-5 + 132,000 UA miles... which is the 8th time I have cashed in for this package. This will be good for a 7 night stay in Peking, CN coming up at any of the hotels except Ritz Carlton, which is Tier 1. All other hotels are Cat 5 or less.... what a phenomenal deal.
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Old Feb 4, 18, 1:58 pm
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Any recent success stories for the 5 night package?
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Old Feb 4, 18, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by jjmoore View Post
Just cashed in for a Cat 1-5 + 132,000 UA miles... which is the 8th time I have cashed in for this package. This will be good for a 7 night stay in Peking, CN coming up at any of the hotels except Ritz Carlton, which is Tier 1. All other hotels are Cat 5 or less.... what a phenomenal deal.
Yes and no. Marriott hotels in Beijing tend to be under $100/night, which means you are only getting at most $700 in value out of your hotel points on this. Many of us would pay cash at that price and save the cert for something more valuable. By comparison, the JW Marriott Phu Quoc Emerald Bay Resort & Spa is $413/night or $2,891 for the same seven nights and is also Cat 5. The Atlanta Waverley is $227/night, or $1,598 for the seven nights and the Orlando Airport Ren is $232/night or $1,624/seven. In terms of your redemption being a good deal because hotels in Beijing have a low redemption rate and are nice, plus the package itself is a good deal, yes, it's a deal, but in dollar cash-in terms many would not bother using points here and would bank them for another usage.
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Old Feb 4, 18, 2:23 pm
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Confused by hotel + air package program

This program often pops up in FT discussions and I've read the wiki and a number of threads about it, but I'm still confused. Just to pick an example from what the relevant Marriott page lists as Hotel and Air Package 2, which includes Singapore as one of the airlines, if I pick a category 8 package for 7 nights and 35,000 miles, it would cost me 290,000 points. Here are my questions:

1. I get a certificate for 7 days that I can use within a year at any Category 8 hotel as long as it has award availability. Is that right?
2. I also get 35,000 Singapore (KrisFlyer) miles, which I can add to my existing KF account, and then try to find award availability on SQ. Is that right?
3. Can you only assume a standard room, or does the program have any provision for upgrading at the hotel, beyond what might happen depending on Marriott status?
4. I only see the option of 7 nights. Can that be varied at all?

Sorry about the pretty basic questions, but I've never really focused on this much-praised program until now. Thanks for any help.
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Old Feb 4, 18, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Thunderroad View Post

1. I get a certificate for 7 days that I can use within a year at any Category 8 hotel as long as it has award availability. Is that right?
2. I also get 35,000 Singapore (KrisFlyer) miles, which I can add to my existing KF account, and then try to find award availability on SQ. Is that right?
3. Can you only assume a standard room, or does the program have any provision for upgrading at the hotel, beyond what might happen depending on Marriott status?
4. I only see the option of 7 nights. Can that be varied at all?
  1. Yes
  2. Yes, but this is a waste of a TP. Redeem the maximum number of points for miles possible to maximize utility of this award. If you need more points, redeem for a lower certificate (cat 1-5) and max the miles. You can add points to upgrade the certificate at a later date.
  3. Yes, but you may upgrade w/ cash for some award stays. You may also be upgraded gratis based on status, but no guarantees.
  4. No, unless you own a timeshare (or get very lucky and reach a customer service rep who makes an error).
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Old Feb 4, 18, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by lexdevil View Post
this is a waste of a TP. Redeem the maximum number of points for miles possible to maximize utility of this award.
One cannot make a blanket statement like this. Every case is different. For example, if the transfer plus the desired award will leave useless orphaned miles, it's a waste.
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Old Feb 4, 18, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by CJKatl View Post
Yes and no. Marriott hotels in Beijing tend to be under $100/night, which means you are only getting at most $700 in value out of your hotel points on this. Many of us would pay cash at that price and save the cert for something more valuable. By comparison, the JW Marriott Phu Quoc Emerald Bay Resort & Spa is $413/night or $2,891 for the same seven nights and is also Cat 5. The Atlanta Waverley is $227/night, or $1,598 for the seven nights and the Orlando Airport Ren is $232/night or $1,624/seven. In terms of your redemption being a good deal because hotels in Beijing have a low redemption rate and are nice, plus the package itself is a good deal, yes, it's a deal, but in dollar cash-in terms many would not bother using points here and would bank them for another usage.
The CY is around $100/ni ... but I was looking to use at the JW Marriott, which is running around $220/ni .... $1,540 total + taxes... so I think this is not a bad deal (and I want to stay at a place where I can spoil the Mrs. a bit)... even though value can be maximized somewhere else. I'm combining this with the ridiculous $500 r.t. fares from SFO and this is going to be a very cheap trip to knock off another couple of bucket list items - seeing the Great Wall and the Terracotta Warriors. Will bank the UA miles for something down the road... maybe some first class on Singapore Airlines.
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Old Feb 4, 18, 4:19 pm
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Apologies if this has been asked and answered but I am close to get the max travel package to use for 7 nights at the Ritz-Carlton in Dubai.

Can I go ahead and book the room as a normal points reservation for the 7 nights and then purchase the package when I have enough points or do I need to order the package before I can book the room?

Also, has anyone noticed that this particular hotel only seems to let you cancel a redemption booking within 24 hours and isn't a normal cancellation policy as at other hotels?
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Old Feb 4, 18, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by BlueHorizonUK View Post
Can I go ahead and book the room as a normal points reservation for the 7 nights and then purchase the package when I have enough points or do I need to order the package before I can book the room?
Book for points now. Call in once you have the certificate and have them attach it.
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