Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Oct 19, 2017, 11:42 am
#2596
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: EZE
Programs: UA Gold,Delta Gold Bonvoy Titanium Elite, HH Diamond , AA Platinum, EENational, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,548
Oct 19, 2017, 3:50 pm
#2597
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
You don't even have to make a 7 night reservation. If you know you will only stay 5 nights, then make a 5 night reservation. The cert can be applied to any award reservation for 7 or less nights and the cert meets or exceeds the category level.
Oct 20, 2017, 9:43 am
#2598
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,570
I always make the reservation for 7 if there's availability. Sometimes we leave prior to the 7th night, but I like knowing I have a room just in case my flight gets canceled or whatever...
If possible, I do call the hotel to let them know when I'm fully gone...figure they could clean the room and resell if it they like.
If possible, I do call the hotel to let them know when I'm fully gone...figure they could clean the room and resell if it they like.
Oct 20, 2017, 10:06 am
#2599
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 406
Anyone got the Marriott Air Travel page to load correctly?
Oct 20, 2017, 8:12 pm
#2600
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
Oct 23, 2017, 10:30 am
#2601
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 406
Thank you!
Having such a hard time deciding where to park time.
United or Delta (ahhhhhhh 1st world problem).
Having such a hard time deciding where to park time.
United or Delta (ahhhhhhh 1st world problem).
Oct 23, 2017, 11:02 am
#2602
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
That way I can almost always do at a minimum 2 RT tickets in economy anywhere.
Last edited by t1c; Oct 23, 2017 at 10:17 pm
Oct 23, 2017, 11:19 am
#2603
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 406
TOTALLY!
I prefer United but with the upcoming devaluation, its going to hurt a little
However, with the bonus transfer, that can help offset a little bit.
We tend to travel to Asia with points and United just has more offering.
Can anyone confirm if Delta is offering additional bonus for the transfer?
I prefer United but with the upcoming devaluation, its going to hurt a little
However, with the bonus transfer, that can help offset a little bit.We tend to travel to Asia with points and United just has more offering.
Can anyone confirm if Delta is offering additional bonus for the transfer?
Oct 23, 2017, 9:26 pm
#2604
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
TOTALLY!
I prefer United but with the upcoming devaluation, its going to hurt a little However, with the bonus transfer, that can help offset a little bit.
We tend to travel to Asia with points and United just has more offering.
Can anyone confirm if Delta is offering additional bonus for the transfer?
I prefer United but with the upcoming devaluation, its going to hurt a little
However, with the bonus transfer, that can help offset a little bit.We tend to travel to Asia with points and United just has more offering.
Can anyone confirm if Delta is offering additional bonus for the transfer?
There is never any bonus offer to transfer to AS. However, take a look on Alaska partner award chart, CX and JL, and compare the cost AS charges versus the cost UA charges - you will find you pay far less and get the top airlines for Asia travel, because you will NOT get SQ premium cabin using UA miles.
As an example -
50K/70K US to HKG/SE Asia on CX business / first if using AS miles.
90K/140K US to HKG/SE Asia on Partners business / first if using UA miles.
The bonus does not make up the huge difference, not to mention that you dont get any stopover with UA award but you get a stopover even with a one-way redemption on AS award.
Even going to Asia, Aeroplan may still work better as Aeroplan allows 2 stopovers on a R/T booking and is still slightly cheaper than UA's chart. The trick is to only use partners that dont charge YQ. Worth mentioned is, Aeroplan lets you route thru Europe to Asia, so you have more options. UA has stopped allowing this 2 or 3 years ago.
If for travel to Europe, Aeroplan beats all the transfer partners of Marriott as only AA has similar cost but with extremely poor availability and no stopover.
Oct 23, 2017, 9:36 pm
#2605
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
Generally correct except if you’re using UA miles to fly into Australia/New Zealand area you can get a stopover (doing this for the third time in February - flying into Brisbane for 10- nights then to Christchurch for a month then out of Auckland with the Brisbane-Auckland-Christchurch not charged)
Oct 23, 2017, 9:48 pm
#2606
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,760
Generally correct except if you’re using UA miles to fly into Australia/New Zealand area you can get a stopover (doing this for the third time in February - flying into Brisbane for 10- nights then to Christchurch for a month then out of Auckland with the Brisbane-Auckland-Christchurch not charged)
Or this is the "excursion" allowed on a R/T redemption?
Do you get NZ's premium cabin? If so, that would be a feat.
I am very tempting to make speculative booking on the Asia-South Pacific sweet spot that got killed by Nov 1st. The 30/40K TG J/F SYD-BKK and beyond is very very tempting. Flew this last Spring SYD-BKK-HKG in TG F and J. Had a nice time in SQ's F lounge in SYD (much prefer it over TG F lounge in BKK and never understand the hype the bloggers have, incl the massage.)
Oct 23, 2017, 11:06 pm
#2607
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
Australia and New Zealand are grouped together like a single continent so the stopover is OK.
Got C/J only on the BNE-AKL flight as AKL-CHC only operates in Y.
There was a direct BNE-CHC flight but it doesn't arrive CHC until near midnight and I'm picking up wheels in CHC so must arrive earlier as rental closes at 10.
This is our third trip to NZ for a month like this with Sydney and Melbourne areas used as previous stopovers.
Got C/J only on the BNE-AKL flight as AKL-CHC only operates in Y.
There was a direct BNE-CHC flight but it doesn't arrive CHC until near midnight and I'm picking up wheels in CHC so must arrive earlier as rental closes at 10.
This is our third trip to NZ for a month like this with Sydney and Melbourne areas used as previous stopovers.
I do not know that - is this a special feature for the South Pacific region? Or this is a system glitch?
Or this is the "excursion" allowed on a R/T redemption?
Do you get NZ's premium cabin? If so, that would be a feat.
I am very tempting to make speculative booking on the Asia-South Pacific sweet spot that got killed by Nov 1st. The 30/40K TG J/F SYD-BKK and beyond is very very tempting. Flew this last Spring SYD-BKK-HKG in TG F and J. Had a nice time in SQ's F lounge in SYD (much prefer it over TG F lounge in BKK and never understand the hype the bloggers have, incl the massage.)
Or this is the "excursion" allowed on a R/T redemption?
Do you get NZ's premium cabin? If so, that would be a feat.
I am very tempting to make speculative booking on the Asia-South Pacific sweet spot that got killed by Nov 1st. The 30/40K TG J/F SYD-BKK and beyond is very very tempting. Flew this last Spring SYD-BKK-HKG in TG F and J. Had a nice time in SQ's F lounge in SYD (much prefer it over TG F lounge in BKK and never understand the hype the bloggers have, incl the massage.)
Oct 24, 2017, 8:20 am
#2608
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,598
Generally correct except if you’re using UA miles to fly into Australia/New Zealand area you can get a stopover (doing this for the third time in February - flying into Brisbane for 10- nights then to Christchurch for a month then out of Auckland with the Brisbane-Auckland-Christchurch not charged)
Oct 24, 2017, 9:51 am
#2609
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 10,908
AS awards on cx are seriously throttled these days - what you see (on ba for example) is not what you get. Pretty sure cx deval is not far away too.. ua is definitely more universal for those without specific near term plans...
Oct 24, 2017, 9:57 am
#2610
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 406
You may want to take a look on Alaska's program.
There is never any bonus offer to transfer to AS. However, take a look on Alaska partner award chart, CX and JL, and compare the cost AS charges versus the cost UA charges - you will find you pay far less and get the top airlines for Asia travel, because you will NOT get SQ premium cabin using UA miles.
As an example -
50K/70K US to HKG/SE Asia on CX business / first if using AS miles.
90K/140K US to HKG/SE Asia on Partners business / first if using UA miles.
The bonus does not make up the huge difference, not to mention that you dont get any stopover with UA award but you get a stopover even with a one-way redemption on AS award.
Even going to Asia, Aeroplan may still work better as Aeroplan allows 2 stopovers on a R/T booking and is still slightly cheaper than UA's chart. The trick is to only use partners that dont charge YQ. Worth mentioned is, Aeroplan lets you route thru Europe to Asia, so you have more options. UA has stopped allowing this 2 or 3 years ago.
If for travel to Europe, Aeroplan beats all the transfer partners of Marriott as only AA has similar cost but with extremely poor availability and no stopover.
There is never any bonus offer to transfer to AS. However, take a look on Alaska partner award chart, CX and JL, and compare the cost AS charges versus the cost UA charges - you will find you pay far less and get the top airlines for Asia travel, because you will NOT get SQ premium cabin using UA miles.
As an example -
50K/70K US to HKG/SE Asia on CX business / first if using AS miles.
90K/140K US to HKG/SE Asia on Partners business / first if using UA miles.
The bonus does not make up the huge difference, not to mention that you dont get any stopover with UA award but you get a stopover even with a one-way redemption on AS award.
Even going to Asia, Aeroplan may still work better as Aeroplan allows 2 stopovers on a R/T booking and is still slightly cheaper than UA's chart. The trick is to only use partners that dont charge YQ. Worth mentioned is, Aeroplan lets you route thru Europe to Asia, so you have more options. UA has stopped allowing this 2 or 3 years ago.
If for travel to Europe, Aeroplan beats all the transfer partners of Marriott as only AA has similar cost but with extremely poor availability and no stopover.
How easy and accessible is AS to redeem 4 tix (econ or business class)? I always travel with the wife and 2 kids (under 7). I find UA has a lot more offering when it comes to making award booking. Again, never booked Business class at all on any level but with the air package and accumulation of points, I am hoping to fly business class in 2018 (one way at the very least).
AS might be a gem for me since we tend to go HKG every time we fly to Asia.