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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Oct 3, 2017, 4:10 am
#2521
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QR/AC Gold, VA Silver, IHG Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 1,581
Hi Alc, sorry but I don't get it. What do you meant the 8th day? Given that there are only 7 days in the certificate? Does the hotel actually refund 2 nights points?
Oct 3, 2017, 8:23 am
#2522
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
my comment is that if you end up can't get any points refund (which is not normal that you do) you can at least try to get the 2 extra Elite Nights credit to your account by making the booking as 7 nights. You will leave on the 6th day (after you stay for 5 nights) but your official check-out will be on the 8th day (after the 7th night night)
Oct 3, 2017, 12:02 pm
#2523
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 10
I am looking to redeem a Cat 9 Travel Package to take advantage of the BA promo. However I only want to stay at the Cat 9 hotel for 5 days instead of 7 days. Is it possible to just book the 7 days and use the certificate, and check out on 5th day (say emergency or something), and just forfeit the last 2 days of the stay without further penalty? Also is there anyway to get those "2 days" back?
Oct 3, 2017, 12:28 pm
#2524
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
Kamchatsky, I suppose you could book a 7-nighter, then phone the Reservations Manager at the hotel to say (truthfully or otherwise) that you will be attending an annual or other recurring event, so could s/he please bend the rules by giving you a 5-nighter & a later 2-nighter for your cert. Or you could post on The Coupon Connection to offer a "gift" of the nights beyond your stay to another FTer who will stay as a "friend joining you in your room 
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Or just book as Cherryblossom55 says, or change your booking to that if the above fails & accept that you'll be forfeiting/ wasting the last 2 nights.
If you book 7 nights, then check out after 5, you may be charged an Early Departure Fee if the hotel has one
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." Or just book as Cherryblossom55 says, or change your booking to that if the above fails & accept that you'll be forfeiting/ wasting the last 2 nights.
If you book 7 nights, then check out after 5, you may be charged an Early Departure Fee if the hotel has one
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Oct 3, 2017, 1:12 pm
#2526
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
Should be true, Willbur! Usually an EDF is a half to one full night's room rent. In this case one is paying 2 nights' room rent--albeit with points, not $ ! In that case, Kamchatsky should book 7 nights just in case 'something suddenly comes up' where he wants to stay longer.
Oct 3, 2017, 1:24 pm
#2527
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 298
Should be true, Willbur! Usually an EDF is a half to one full night's room rent. In this case one is paying 2 nights' room rent--albeit with points, not $ ! In that case, Kamchatsky should book 7 nights just in case 'something suddenly comes up' where he wants to stay longer.
Oct 4, 2017, 5:06 pm
#2528
Join Date: May 2006
Location: EWR
Programs: UA Silver, MRP Platinum, Marriott Vacation Club Chairman, SPG Platinum, Cunard Platinum,
Posts: 967
You can just book the 5 nights and have them apply the 7-night certificate. You will lose the two nights but then you won't have to worry about saying there is an emergency. I booked 6 nights in Hawaii and called just yesterday to have them apply my 7-night certificate. No issue at all.
Oct 4, 2017, 5:21 pm
#2529
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,431
If I purchase a 7-night stay for cat 1-5 and want to upgrade to cat 8, but only plan on staying for 5 nights -- can I only pay the upgrade for 5 nights and throw away the final 2 nights?
Oct 4, 2017, 6:05 pm
#2530
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
Assuming your buy is intended to mean using points, No
But why not just buy (again, points) 5 nights at your Cat 8 and pay for 4 ?
But why not just buy (again, points) 5 nights at your Cat 8 and pay for 4 ?
Oct 4, 2017, 6:19 pm
#2531
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
I ordered a TP reservation and will be using it for a 6 night stay. The hotel I am staying at had an oceanfront upgrade (4 upgrade coupons or 20K per night). I used the 7-night TP cert for the hotel reservation and was only charged 120K (20K*6 nights) for the upgrade to oceanfront.
Note that if you are using a 5 night award (pay 4 nights get the 5th night free), if you upgrade the room, you will still have to pay the upgrade fee on all nights including the free night.
Oct 4, 2017, 8:00 pm
#2532
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
So, let me get this straight.
Your confirming that I can prorate the 90,000 point upgrade from Cat 5 TP to a Cat 8 TP based upon the number of days I’ll actually use the TP ?
Your confirming that I can prorate the 90,000 point upgrade from Cat 5 TP to a Cat 8 TP based upon the number of days I’ll actually use the TP ?
Yes you can. The upgrade charges will only be for the nights you actually are staying at the hotel.
I ordered a TP reservation and will be using it for a 6 night stay. The hotel I am staying at had an oceanfront upgrade (4 upgrade coupons or 20K per night). I used the 7-night TP cert for the hotel reservation and was only charged 120K (20K*6 nights) for the upgrade to oceanfront.
Note that if you are using a 5 night award (pay 4 nights get the 5th night free), if you upgrade the room, you will still have to pay the upgrade fee on all nights including the free night.
I ordered a TP reservation and will be using it for a 6 night stay. The hotel I am staying at had an oceanfront upgrade (4 upgrade coupons or 20K per night). I used the 7-night TP cert for the hotel reservation and was only charged 120K (20K*6 nights) for the upgrade to oceanfront.
Note that if you are using a 5 night award (pay 4 nights get the 5th night free), if you upgrade the room, you will still have to pay the upgrade fee on all nights including the free night.
Oct 4, 2017, 8:08 pm
#2533
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
I believe he's confirming something different - he's talking about upgrading rooms. Not sure how they would allow you to only upgrade 5 nights since it's a 7 night cert and the point prices are stated. This is probably as YMMV as getting a 5-night stay. If you really want that you're probably better off spending your time trying to get that elusive 5-night cert.
Oct 4, 2017, 8:21 pm
#2534
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: HH-D; MR-P/LTP; SPG-P
Posts: 849
He might but I’ll wait for hhooper01 to respond cause my NO response was what I interpreted DaveInLA trying to do which hhooper01 was responded yes to.
I believe he's confirming something different - he's talking about upgrading rooms. Not sure how they would allow you to only upgrade 5 nights since it's a 7 night cert and the point prices are stated. This is probably as YMMV as getting a 5-night stay. If you really want that you're probably better off spending your time trying to get that elusive 5-night cert.
Oct 4, 2017, 10:50 pm
#2535
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 625
I had actually wished for this in the past. The 7 night certificate breaks into a 5 night and 2 night certificate at some point (I don't remember if I applied it to a reservation and cancelled it or if it was when I got it extended or something else). I had a 5 night reservation on a hotel that was going up a category and decided to use the certificate for that. A flight was cancelled and we had to stay an extra day, but of course it was now a category 7 instead of 6. I wished they could just increase the 2 nights for 10K points, and I would use that towards the reservation. But that didn't happen.