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lacanau Jun 26, 2001 5:23 am

Is it worth joining the program?
 
I am very new to Marriott, as most of my hotel stays are with Hyatt or Starwood. I am going to spend around 25 nights at the Marriott next month on a project and I am wondering whether it makes sense to join the reward program just for that (considered that I may not stay with them that often in future).
Will I get any rewards or status at all for 25 nights (in one stretch at the same property)?
Also, will Marriott comp me to a higher level if I ask (am Starwood Platinum and Hyatt Diamond), and will this higher level bring any advantages at all?
Thanks for your insights!

cat333 Jun 26, 2001 6:04 am

I will let others, more familiar with such things, answer about specific benifits, but why not join? It is free, and you can get miles instead of points if you want, or convert the points later. You are not apt to get on junk mail lists (either e-mail or snail mail) from your enrollment -- at least I never did.

doc Jun 26, 2001 6:14 am

Absolutely, yes! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

jan_az Jun 26, 2001 11:10 am

Yes join- I think 25 nites will make you Silver, at least get points at 10/1 or miles at 1/1. And no, Marriot is NOT into comping status

DOC 2 BE Jun 26, 2001 11:18 am

Second DOC and everyone else. However, it will be up to you which chains you wish to frequent most depending on your travel and spending patterns.

Agree with JANAZ, however to get Silver status faster, you can get the Marriott Visa card and it gives you that status, as well as extra points (2/$1) when using it to pay for your stays. In addition, it is free for the first year.

silverpie Jun 26, 2001 2:25 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by jan_az:
Yes join- I think 25 nites will make you Silver, at least get points at 10/1 or miles at 1/1. And no, Marriot is NOT into comping status</font>
Actually, if it's a proper Marriott (not a Courtyard or lower), Silvers get points at 12/1 and miles at 3/1.

And as to the credit card, be aware that it's from First USA, which has a reputation for bad service.

Phil Jun 26, 2001 4:47 pm

Yes, of course it's worth it. The only reason it wouldn't be is if you are never going to stay at a Marriott.

After 15 stays you will be a silver. But early on I would ask for the .the manager, introduce yourself, and tell him that you are booked for 25 nights with them... and ask at the same time if there is a chance of an upgrade to concierge level. You'll probably get it.

If you are fairly certain you won't be staying at Marriotts beyond the 25 nights, then choose airline miles. But as you get beyond 25 nights, the value of Marriott rewards available to you will rise. Fairfield, Courtyard, Residence Inn, and Renaisance stays will also count toward your elite status, which with 50 stays will become gold.



mrnick Jun 26, 2001 7:49 pm

Am I missing something here? If you have 25 nights in a row, it is one stay and you can get 500 miles in the airline of your choice only. Not 500 a night. Get the marriott points as Marriott counts nights, not stays, toward elite status. Also, as someone said, get the Marriott Visa even it is only for this month for the silver status.

jan_az Jun 26, 2001 9:22 pm

mrnick

Marriot does airline points different than Hilton - you cant get both, only one. Depedning on you status with marriot you get btwn 10-15 points per $ spent or 1-3 airline miles per dollar spent

also marriot counts nites spent rather than stays in determining elite status

felis Jun 26, 2001 11:52 pm

Definitively, get the card for free, credit your stays on the card, for themiles or for the points, but if you have any occasion in the next upcoming year to stay in a hotel for yourself, not for the company, use your points.With 25 nights by Marriott, I would suspect at least between 15000 and 30000 points, which is fairly a good begining for a pair of nights on Courtyard, or more on Fairfield Inn.
With the points, you may decide later on which airline do you want to transfer them into miles, if you do not want to saty in their hotel as a reward.
If you choose miles from the beginning, you will lost the opportunity fro free night immediately.

LAX 1K Jun 30, 2001 11:53 am

Awesome plan to sign up.

I am more and more aware how valuable hotel points are during expensive trips (vacations). Hilton, Marriott, and Starwood offer great options for using points in their hotels (even one or two nights at their budget properties come in handy during road trips)....

Sign up and enjoy the better service and free future stays.. if you are like me, you have enough airline miles http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

lacanau Jul 4, 2001 4:58 am

Thanks for all your helpful comments. I think you more than convinced me to sign up with Marriott's reward program now. I was hesitant because I live in Asia and most of the places I travel to in the Region don't have a Marriott where I need it. But if 25 nights are enough for silver, I think it's worth it anyway, esp. if I can convert the points to Airmiles later if I really don't know what to do with them.
The credit card sounds tempting, but not being a US resident it doesn't make much sense for me.
What exactly is the Concierge level? Is this Marriott's club floor?

Kremmen Jul 4, 2001 9:03 am

One interesting thing, though not relevant to your long stay, is that Marriott is very inconsistent with its treatment of members vs. airlines directly, in some cases.

For example, Marriott gives Qantas frequent flyers 1500 points per stay, but gives its own members points on a US$ basis. For very short stays, I earn vastly more points by giving them my Qantas card and not telling them I'm in their rewards scheme. Silly, eh?

(Other hotels that I'm aware of don't disadvantage their own members that way.)

felis Jul 7, 2001 1:38 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by lacanau:
...The credit card sounds tempting, but not being a US resident it doesn't make much sense for me....
What exactly is the Concierge level? Is this Marriott's club floor?
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I agree the credit card is probably not for you, as it is not for me.

The concierge level is a special dedicated level were the rooms are a little more comfortable, and there is a lounge where you can get a free breakfest for free (just the usal 1 dollar tip for service, I think), or a drink in the evening.


silverpie Jul 9, 2001 11:42 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Kremmen:
One interesting thing, though not relevant to your long stay, is that Marriott is very inconsistent with its treatment of members vs. airlines directly, in some cases.

For example, Marriott gives Qantas frequent flyers 1500 points per stay, but gives its own members points on a US$ basis. For very short stays, I earn vastly more points by giving them my Qantas card and not telling them I'm in their rewards scheme. Silly, eh?

(Other hotels that I'm aware of don't disadvantage their own members that way.)
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In some cases, Starwood does. If I set up their Airline Direct Deposit to Air Canada, I get two points per dollar. If I just give them my Aéroplan number, it's 1,000 miles at anything other than a Four Points.

Pointfreak! Jul 9, 2001 12:06 pm

I for one dont think you should join...I think you should just give them MY Marriott number when you check in. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I might make platinum after all!


afang Jul 11, 2001 9:28 pm

The most important thing in traveling is that you need to join all the programs there is in order to get the most perks. I strongly believe that when we are on the road away from our loved ones, we need as many perks as we can get so that way we will be all hooked on getting points/miles and we won't be missing our loved ones as much as we should http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif



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Al

lacanau Jul 11, 2001 11:57 pm

...so that when you come home from your trip you can update your loved ones on all the wonderful miles and points you earned?! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Pointfreak! Jul 13, 2001 8:32 am

&gt;&gt;you can update your loved ones&lt;&lt;

Actually thats exactly what happens to me... My wife spends the miles almost as fast as I earn them!

PF

Thumper Jul 13, 2001 11:56 am

After reading all this thread, I wanted to see if I could get "comp'ed" to an elite status. I did, and got silver over the phone. It is already posted on my rewards profile, one day later. I was asked if I could document the number of nights a year I travel, and when I agreed to do this, they later on in the call said never mind.

I have to do a mini "challenge", which is x number of nights by December 31.

Not bad. Now the big question: will silver status be enough to get me on the concierge level?

Thumper

Pointfreak! Jul 13, 2001 12:51 pm

&gt;&gt;Silver/Concierge Floor&lt;&lt;

Technically only Golds & Platinums get access, unless you book a room on that floor. I'm a Silver and have been given access to the floor (not a room on the floor) a few times by benevolent desk clerks.

It all depends on who you get. I am 8 nights from Gold, and just checked into the Denver Marriott Tech Center. I am booked for 17 nights, so I asked if I could be given access since technically I will turn Gold during the stay. The girl refused saying "You have to be Gold when you check in".

Luck of the draw I guess.

PF

underpressure Jul 15, 2001 6:03 am

Go ahead and join. Do not expect a thing other than the points. As a Platinum Level Member for teh past two years and gold before that, I am finished trying to stay in Marriotts. If it works out, okay, no more extra effort. They have not shown me a bit of extra effort.

Yesterday morning, I called the SF Marriott, asked them to please be sure my Plat Level number was posted. Yes, sir, sure, no problem, no prob with an upgrade to conc level.

I checked in, I might as well have been a bag lady. No upgrade, no welcome gift. A crappy room for $255.00 (before energy surcharge, 20% convention tax, and $20.00 breakfast.

I am seriously considering moving down the street.

But yes, join. Expect nothing and you will always be surprised.

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DL PM, UA Plat, Marriott PM, Hyatt Gold

underpressure Jul 19, 2001 5:06 am

Update....

1. Tiny Room
2. No Coffee Maker (they did bring one on request, with styrofoam cups)
3. Maid did not service coffee maker (took the mugs I had room service bring)
4. $255.00 per night AND 2.50 energy charge.... COME ON

underpressure Jul 29, 2001 5:43 am

2nd update

It has now been two weeks, points not posted on the site yet.

So now I get to call a toll number, fax a copy of the receipt, submit blood and urine samples, and pray that they get it right.....

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DL PM, UA Plat, Marriott PM, Hyatt Gold

Kremmen Jul 29, 2001 11:43 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by silverpie:
In some cases, Starwood does. If I set up their Airline Direct Deposit to Air Canada, I get two points per dollar. If I just give them my Aéroplan number, it's 1,000 miles at anything other than a Four Points.</font>
Interesting. When I stayed at a Sheraton, they originally credited half the points (ie. 750) for my stay, compared to the usual Qantas amount. When I contacted them and questioned it, they told me it was a processing error and it become the usual 1500. (not bad for a one-night stay)

And, they have kept me at Gold level again, even though they don't know I've stayed at any of their hotels in the last year.


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