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"Taste of Gold/Platinum" promotion and Platinum challenge [Merged threads]

"Taste of Gold/Platinum" promotion and Platinum challenge [Merged threads]

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Taste of Gold/Platinum
You are given gold/platinum status for 90 days, and you must complete a certain number of nights/stays to retain that status for the remainder of the year plus the following year. This promotion is targeted only.

Road to Gold/Platinum (a.k.a. Gold/Platinum Challenge)
Currently, this will allow you to move up one level with a shortened stay criteria. You have 90 days to complete 6/9 stays to receive Gold/Platinum status. If you do no qualify, you are eligible to start another challenge one year and one day after the 90th day of the challenge you just did. When you sign up, the MR CSR should tell you the date you are eligible to do another challenge.

FAQ

Q: What qualifies as a stay?
A: One paid night at a Marriott-brand (including Ritz-Carlton Hotels) hotel. Cash+points rate does not qualify. SPG hotels does not qualify (as of 03/2017). Some exclusions may apply, someone please help fill this in.

Q: Can I simply book multiple, consecutive one-night stays at the same hotel?
A: No.

Q: Can I jump between multiple Marriotts in the area?
A: Yes. As long as you book at least one night at each property. Special care must be taken if the Marriott properties are next to each other. They may share the same back-office. While you may book one night at each property on consecutive nights, which should count as two stays, it may only count as one stay. A call to Marriott Rewards should split them up correctly.

Q: Can I book multiple nights at different properties for the same night to get multiple stay credits?
A: No. Regardless how many different places you book for the same night, it all counts as one stay.

Q: Can I sign up for both Gold and Platinum Challenges at the same time?
A: No. Only one challenge per year.

Q: I'm Silver, can I do the Platinum challenge?
A: No. This is only a one-level promotion. You are only eligible for the Gold challenge.

Q: Can a non-elite do the Gold Challenge
A: No. Must be Silver.

Q: I just completed my 6th/9th stay. When should I see my new status?
A: Good job! Your new status should appear after your 6th/9th stay posts to your account.

Q: Can I book a meeting to get a stay credit?
A: No. You will only receive 10 night credits, not a stay credit.
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Old Feb 2, 13, 8:48 am
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SPG is even worse. I was in Chicago a few months ago at the Sheraton...and was given lounge access as a Gold? Anyway, before arrival they were selling access via email for $60 a day, which I politely declined.

I went to get breakfast in there and it was an absolute zoo. Like an elementary cafeteria. Stuff was thrown all over, coffee was empty, empty plates and crumbs were everywhere.

I ended up getting a tiny bit of fruit and a hardboiled egg...and the only place I could find to sit was on a couch upstairs, using the ottoman as my table

I must say, my plat experiences at RC have been much better, in general, than other marriott properties. I don't often get suite upgrades (if I frequent a hotel I sometimes do), but always get a great room. For example, I was staying in SJU on a corporate rate a few weeks ago at $249 a night, and was upgraded to a $1099/night oceanfront room.

Also, I don't mind paying up for lounge access at RC. It is a completely different experience than Marriott and is worth the $100-$200 a night.

I do wish they would stop offering challenges, but I think the 9 stay requirement is a much tougher one to get than the old version.
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Old Feb 2, 13, 9:43 am
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Challenges aren't the only reason lounges can be full. It can be for a variety of reasons:

* people booking exec level rooms & having legit access,
* properties 'upselling' to exec level at check-in (I've seen that at multiple chains btw, not limited to Marriott)
* where hotel is located; urban and convention properties will probably have more 'road warriors' who have legit status
* those doing challenges (who may decide to stay elite/w Marriott due to challenge or the 1-offs who need it for a vacation, but won't be staying around/taking up space at any other time.
* people bringing in all their colleagues and/or family (true whether it's challenge or road warrior)

I think Marriott is smart to give those doing a challenge the bennies while they're doing the challenge so they know what they'll get if they keep the status (and sometimes what they'll get is a crowded lounge ).

Cheers.
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Old Feb 2, 13, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock View Post
Challenges aren't the only reason lounges can be full. It can be for a variety of reasons:

* people booking exec level rooms & having legit access,
* properties 'upselling' to exec level at check-in (I've seen that at multiple chains btw, not limited to Marriott)
* where hotel is located; urban and convention properties will probably have more 'road warriors' who have legit status
* those doing challenges (who may decide to stay elite/w Marriott due to challenge or the 1-offs who need it for a vacation, but won't be staying around/taking up space at any other time.
* people bringing in all their colleagues and/or family (true whether it's challenge or road warrior)

I think Marriott is smart to give those doing a challenge the bennies while they're doing the challenge so they know what they'll get if they keep the status (and sometimes what they'll get is a crowded lounge ).

Cheers.
I also think people underestimate the number of Plats and Golds staying at many properties mid week. I've been at huge hotels with 300+ rooms where Plat occupancy was over 50%.
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Old Feb 2, 13, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by flyer4512 View Post
So it's not even as good as Hilton Gold as they give you continental breakfast daily with an option to upgrade to the menu
I've been HH Gold for a few years now and I've always had free full breakfast as a Gold at properties in the US, Canada, Europe and Asia. About 70% of my Hilton stays are at Hiltons, with about 20% Doubletree and 10% other. I don't know, maybe I've been lucky because I always stay in big city hotels?
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Old Feb 2, 13, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by phllyflyboy View Post
I also think people underestimate the number of Plats and Golds staying at many properties mid week. I've been at huge hotels with 300+ rooms where Plat occupancy was over 50%.
Then those are likely not Plat Lts as many of the latter are leisure travellers who are unlikely to stay at properties mid-week.

My guess it that you were unlucky on those occasions to have a larger than normal number of elites staying at the hotel, and that's all.
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Old Feb 2, 13, 9:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Santander View Post
I've been HH Gold for a few years now and I've always had free full breakfast as a Gold at properties in the US, Canada, Europe and Asia. About 70% of my Hilton stays are at Hiltons, with about 20% Doubletree and 10% other. I don't know, maybe I've been lucky because I always stay in big city hotels?
No, that is a, if not, the, key selling point of HHonors elite status, regardless if the property is a resort or not, or whether it is a weekday or not (except for W/A properties).

That is why some programs are better in some things and not others. HHonors points are much more like water with my experience being that many of their lower end properties commanding vastly greater points for room redemption as compared to the nightly room rate.

Of course, Marriott suffers from this also, but in my experience, far more HHonors properties are more "point overvalued" than Marriott properties, and with those Marriott properties that may be so, they are best dispatched with a Megabonus Cert, if you are going to go for a redemption, rather than hard earned points. HHonors doesn't have such a routine promotion like Megabonus (Certs) and therefore, the observation that different programs have strengths and weaknesses.
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Old Feb 2, 13, 9:48 pm
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Originally Posted by phllyflyboy View Post
I also think people underestimate the number of Plats and Golds staying at many properties mid week. I've been at huge hotels with 300+ rooms where Plat occupancy was over 50%.
Were those situations, however, where you had major trade shows during that time, where people who might travel a great deal for business would likely make an appearance for such trade show/convention/congress?

If so, that could explain why there was an overabundance of elite members at a large hotel during a given mid-week stay.
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Old Feb 3, 13, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by USirritated View Post
No, not everyone has received their new cards. As an example, I have not received my new card, and there are certainly others who have not either.
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Old Feb 5, 13, 12:06 pm
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I had one night last year and was denied a challenge via email. i guess i will stay with hilton a lot more this year.
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Old Feb 5, 13, 12:32 pm
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I had one night last year and was denied a challenge via email. i guess i will stay with hilton a lot more this year.
I guess you will.

I don't see having had one night as some badge of honor.
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Old Feb 5, 13, 3:58 pm
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Quote: Originally Posted by opusone
I had one night last year and was denied a challenge via email. i guess i will stay with hilton a lot more this year.


Originally Posted by NJUPINTHEAIR View Post
I guess you will.

I don't see having had one night as some badge of honor.
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Old Feb 6, 13, 3:23 am
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BUT, they are also getting many who are gaming the system and staying much less.
I am one of those that could be said is "gaming the system". I rarely have more than 15-20 hotel nights / year but try to acquire a challenge for those times when I'm on vacation with my fiance so our stay can be a little more memorable.

But just how many people do even know about these upgrade shortcuts and use them to this extent? I doubt it's 1000, rather it's in the 100s. How are those numbers in any way affecting your own options as a "legitimate" Gold/plat?

The only full concierge lounge I've been in out of dozens upon dozens is the airport Ren in ST Louis (and my company HQ is in St Louis so we provide a very sizeable % of their occupancy). Heck, I remember sitting in the DEAD Minneapolis Downtown Marriott concierge lounge a couple of days straight thinking, gee I wish there could be some more people around here to talk to.
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Old Feb 6, 13, 6:07 am
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I'm Platinum SPG, and had 90 nights last year. I asked about the challenge, and was told that I could only do the Gold Challenge.

I'm going to be staying at Ritz Carlton properties a lot in the next few months, so I was hoping I could use that to easily coast through the Platinum challenge. Guess the best I can hope for is Gold...which seems to be about the same.
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Old Feb 6, 13, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by SocialAdept View Post
I am one of those that could be said is "gaming the system". I rarely have more than 15-20 hotel nights / year but try to acquire a challenge for those times when I'm on vacation with my fiance so our stay can be a little more memorable.

But just how many people do even know about these upgrade shortcuts and use them to this extent? I doubt it's 1000, rather it's in the 100s. How are those numbers in any way affecting your own options as a "legitimate" Gold/plat?

The only full concierge lounge I've been in out of dozens upon dozens is the airport Ren in ST Louis (and my company HQ is in St Louis so we provide a very sizeable % of their occupancy). Heck, I remember sitting in the DEAD Minneapolis Downtown Marriott concierge lounge a couple of days straight thinking, gee I wish there could be some more people around here to talk to.
I think more people take advantage of it then you think, and like you a lot of people are just utilizing it for the free plat status regardless if they meet the criteria. Since the status is immediate, the person requesting it achieves it for 1/4 of the year which from my understanding can be requested every year (assuming 12 months have lapsed between the status challenges). Also, you say you have only seen one full lounge, but you say you only stay 15-20 nights a year , but out of those 15-20 how many are weekday stays at FS Hotel's, and how many of those are at different Hotel's?

The only reason I am asking is because I have seen a full lounge plenty of times over a wide array of Marriott's in different city's. Either way I am indifferent toward's the situation , but merely providing my input based on my experiences.
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Old Feb 6, 13, 11:04 am
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Also, you say you have only seen one full lounge, but you say you only stay 15-20 nights a year , but out of those 15-20 how many are weekday stays at FS Hotel's, and how many of those are at different Hotel's?
I gear it exclusively towards FS service hotels since the lower end doesn't do a very good job at recognizing status. The weekend/weekday mix is 50/50.
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