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vacagirl Feb 24, 2011 2:16 pm

Please post cat 4 to 5 changes...these are important!

Tbone4130 Feb 24, 2011 2:53 pm

I am going to go ahead and call it, and I'm not happy about it... Austin Courtyard/Residence Inn Downtown... Category 4 --> Category 5.

sophiegirl Feb 24, 2011 6:41 pm

This is why it makes no sense to "hoard" points...in any program. Use 'em or lose 'em....

And although it is easy to be critical, let's remember some of the things Marriott added...the new brands, rollover nights, etc.

Mr. Vker Feb 24, 2011 6:59 pm

WOW three category 8 in Aruba....

Influenced by the upcoming Ritz? The properties are nice, but they are SO crowded.

At the Renaissance Aruba is going BACK to a 6? It was only lowered to a 5 1-2 years ago. And it has not been updated! It WAS a great place to use the Visa cat 1-5 cert.

Not happy with these developments :td:

MyTravels Feb 24, 2011 7:17 pm


Originally Posted by Marriott Concierge (Post 15923751)
Current Cat 5 moving to Cat 4
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Marriott’s Villas at Doral
..

Good to see the Doral timeshare bumped down, but I expected to see several timeshares, espeically the Orlando timeshares bumped down too.

Marriott Grande Vista is a Cat6 (30k points/night) for a studio that is typically between $100 - 165/night

MyTravels Feb 24, 2011 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by Mr. Vker (Post 15927829)
WOW three category 8 in Aruba....

Influenced by the upcoming Ritz? The properties are nice, but they are SO crowded.

At the Renaissance Aruba is going BACK to a 6? It was only lowered to a 5 1-2 years ago. And it has not been updated! It WAS a great place to use the Visa cat 1-5 cert.

Yep, the Ren Aruba moved from a Cat 6 to Cat 5 in last year (2010). Evidently there's plenty of tourism in Aruba.

If I recall correctly, here's the Renaissance Aruba's categories the past four years:
2011 => Category 6
2010 => Category 5
2009 => Category 6
2008 => Category 5



Originally Posted by Marriott Concierge (Post 13453752)
Current Cat 6 moving to Cat 5
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Renaissance Curacao Resort & Casino*
...


swag Feb 24, 2011 8:45 pm


Originally Posted by Marriott Concierge (Post 15923751)

Current Cat 6 moving to Cat 7

SpringHill Suites Virginia Beach Oceanfront

Wow, a cat 7 SpringHill Suites???

JoeBagodonuts Feb 24, 2011 9:20 pm

overall a net loss but I do get a personal gain by the lowering to 4 of the doral property in Miami

CPRich Feb 24, 2011 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by dayone (Post 15925260)
All in all, not too bad.

I'm quite the opposite. Almost anywhere I have gone/will go - many in the Caribbean, are going up.

Marriott is 7:2 increase to decrease while SPG is less than 1:1. Unfortunately, this continues a trend I've seen over the recent few years. Just as I'm nearing lifetime PLT, I'm less and less pleased with the program.

Spiffster Feb 25, 2011 1:07 am

Lifetime plat is the perfect time to switch brands if you're not pleased with MR.



Originally Posted by CPRich (Post 15928534)
Unfortunately, this continues a trend I've seen over the recent few years. Just as I'm nearing lifetime PLT, I'm less and less pleased with the program.


GrizShel Feb 25, 2011 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by Marriott Concierge (Post 15923751)
Good Morning, FlyerTalk community.

I just wanted to share with all of you an announcement we had recently leaked on Marriott Rewards Insiders regarding Hotel Category Changes for 2011. Please see below:
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...we wanted to provide you with advance notice on hotel category changes effective for all reservations made after March 8, 2011. Approximately 100 hotels will decrease by one category and approximately 350 hotels will increase by one category. Less than 10% of the changes have been made to the Category 5-8 hotels.

Thanks Andrew. The Insiders link appears to be broken now. Also, as others have said, could you please do us a favor and post the Complete list of changes coming? This will enable us to see if we need to make some award reservations before March 8.

BTW, In the future I'd like to see a better balance between the # of properties decreasing in Category level and those increasing. We're still smarting from the addition of a Category 8 level.

satori Feb 26, 2011 2:50 am

Marriott reported group rates rising in high single digits in past few months and CEO Arne Sorenson declared in late 2010 that Marriott would raise rates aggessively.

I guess that includes reward night rates too.

DCFlyer0306 Feb 26, 2011 1:55 pm

Why won't you show us the list of hotels going from Cat 4 to Cat 5? This has a large implication for redemption of Marriott rewards certificates. It just seems disappointing and perplexing from a customer satisfaction standpoint to not release the entire list like Starwood does

Armani Feb 26, 2011 8:12 pm

It is hard to believe that the Renaissance Vinoy will now be cat 5, while Residence Inn Treasure Island is cat 6 (even though the rewards points only get you a 'studio' sleeping 2). I would definitely stay at the Vinoy.

SC Alum Feb 27, 2011 10:08 am

Interesting comparison: Most of *wood props that are going up are in Asia and Europe, while most of US props either stayed the same or went down in category.

Yet, Marriott props are predominately in the US, yet there are 3.5x more that are moving up 1 cat, compared to those moving down 1 cat. Can't know for certain since the list has not been publicized. :td:


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