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My experiences with Hilton
Hilton Garden Inns are probably their best value IMHO. They are newer properties. Traditional Hiltons are a waste. Hilton has now clue about customer service. Marriott does. I do not have elite status in either program, but I was once upgraded to a suite at a Marriott on an award stay when the lobby area was tied up by a wedding reception, and it was difficult to get to the front desk. I clearly did not expect an upgrade, but I told the desk clerk that I thought the wedding thing was ridiculous. I was give a huge suite on a free stay.
At a Hilton, I asked for extra blankets and was told that this was impossible since it was New Year's eve and the hotel was full. That was my last stay in a Hilton. There was several issues, and when i complained, all I got were excuses. At Marriott, the service is almost always consistent, and the employees are usually very helpful. I think Marriott treats their employees beter. |
I am MR plat and HH diamond. Differences in hotels in different cities leaves me on fence, sometimes staying in one, sometimes the other. Neither is consistently better everywhere.
Except, I will always take a Garden Inn over a Courtyard. |
Originally Posted by steve4031
(Post 15743028)
Hilton Garden Inns are probably their best value IMHO. They are newer properties.
Originally Posted by blue47
(Post 15743042)
I will always take a Garden Inn over a Courtyard.
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Re: Promotions. Many of Hilton's are targeted, most of Marriott's are not. As HH Gold, I don't get cut in on many lucrative offers. The quadruple point promo required long stays - a nice one for that specific type of guest I suppose. I do mostly one-nighters...I think I would have gotten double base points or something. Lame.
Although I usually argue for SPG and HY as having the best promos, in the past year Marriott has provided me 10 Cat 4 free nights, 60,000 Delta miles, and numerous Bonus Bucks above and beyond the normal program earnings. All but a couple of the Cat 4 free nights were publicly available. (I think two or three were direct-mail targeted promotions.) The "lame Megabonus" gripe is played often here, but 2010 was a good year for supplemental Marriott promos. (And again, don't overlook the ongoing EEO's - a source of another 5-6 free nights for me every single year.) The continue to tighten the EEO and BB rules over time, and we rightfully gripe about it, but HH doesn't even have this program to begin with. |
Originally Posted by VickiSoCal
(Post 15742087)
Q1 only has 90 nights, so it is pretty amazing that you are staying 92 nights at Hilton.
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Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 15747881)
The continue to tighten the EEO and BB rules over time, and we rightfully gripe about it, but HH doesn't even have this program to begin with.
Bonus bucks made Marriotts much cheaper for me than any other hotel chain when on leisure travel. |
When I stay at Marriott Resorts, I always book a standard room and almost always get upgraded to a view room, and I'm just gold.
Originally Posted by iflyjetz
(Post 15740653)
I'll have to add the Vegas JW and Eden Roc to the list of places I'll go when I'm frustrated with upgrades. I haven't been to Eden Roc yet....
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Originally Posted by keeton
(Post 15735288)
As a Marriott Platinum and HH Diamond, I can say from experience that each program has its advantages and disadvantages. We could go on forever as to which program does this or that better, but the bottom line is this: what do _you_ want from a hotel loyalty program? Find the program that fits your needs the best and stay there.
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Marriott have 10% discount with GC. Marriott points easier to redeem and more value. I am Hilton Diamond and Marriott PP. Rarely stay at FS facilities so upgrades are basically moot. However, I have been getting Marriott upgrades whenever I do stay above a Courtyard.
I like Hilton for the AXON discount. Stay there whenever there is a promo that makes sense. Regarding breakfast, I was at a Marriott property with a lounge and breakfast. Never made it for the whole week. Even if I can make the breakfast, I just find point redemption value more important than breakfast. IMO, Marriott points are far more valuable than Hilton. |
Originally Posted by blue47
(Post 15743042)
Except, I will always take a Garden Inn over a Courtyard.
I think the only person who REALLY enjoys CY is Bill Marriott. At least it looks like he does in the ads. |
Originally Posted by BearX220
(Post 15746723)
It is ironic that Hilton's best products are the mid-range / low-end ones and there's such inconsistency, and often poor value and poorer service, as you go higher.
All that resulted was Hilton CEO Chris Nasetta ultimately being relieved he does not face the possibility of serving jail time as the dispute was settled and the Feds are almost certainly going to drop their case. Conversely, Bill Marriott being involved in such reprehensible or even criminal activities is completely unimaginable. He is one of those true legendary American leaders who stands for the highest level of ethical conduct. |
I was HH Diamond for many years until last year. Went back to MR because of the new point redemtion chart and an unpleasent experience at the Hilton on the big island. I stayed 90+ nights/yr with Hilton and never felt like their top tier and seemed to have to beg for upgrades half the time.
There are some outstanding Hilton properties that I love (Rome Cavalieri), but I like the lifetime plat and rollovers in MR. A enjoyed a recent stay at the Maui Ritz where I paid for the cheapest room and got an Ocean View suite :) The staff was incredible as well. |
Originally Posted by travelexpert
(Post 15752221)
Those guys they hired from Starwood who broght with W secrets were supposed to solve some of these problems, ensuring that the upscale/luxury sectors were dramatically beefed up.
All that resulted was Hilton CEO Chris Nasetta ultimately being relieved he does not face the possibility of serving jail time as the dispute was settled and the Feds are almost certainly going to drop their case. Conversely, Bill Marriott being involved in such reprehensible or even criminal activities is completely unimaginable. He is one of those true legendary American leaders who stands for the highest level of ethical conduct. |
Originally Posted by socrates
(Post 15754783)
IMO Chris is a terrific leader and Hilton will greatly benefit from him - he did a terrific job as CEO of Host Marriott (now called Host Hotels and Resorts). In reference to the Starwood Secrets - as soon as he discovered it he made sure Starwood was informed (some CEO's would have kept it quiet in which case Starwood wouldn't have ever found out)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/starw...settled-3.html Saw a recent post in Hotels Magazine (for industry insiders) that quoted a survey--only 13% of Hilton employees believe that Mr. Nasetta is an effective leader. There was no comparable info for Marriott. Other than to say that in several of the past years Marriott gets very high ratings as a great place to work. Even though I have multiple misgivings about Marriott from a customer perspective--I admire their leadership in spades. |
Originally Posted by steve4031
(Post 15743028)
Hilton Garden Inns are probably their best value IMHO. They are newer properties. Traditional Hiltons are a waste. Hilton has now clue about customer service. Marriott does. I do not have elite status in either program, but I was once upgraded to a suite at a Marriott on an award stay when the lobby area was tied up by a wedding reception, and it was difficult to get to the front desk. I clearly did not expect an upgrade, but I told the desk clerk that I thought the wedding thing was ridiculous. I was give a huge suite on a free stay.
At a Hilton, I asked for extra blankets and was told that this was impossible since it was New Year's eve and the hotel was full. That was my last stay in a Hilton. There was several issues, and when i complained, all I got were excuses. I lived at hotels for many years for work and let me tell you about what Hilton did for me and my wife. They screwed up in scheduling a tour of Pompeii and when the bus arrived they had no reservation and no available seats. The Hilton in Sorrento got us a town car for the day to drive us anywhere we wanted with a private driver. The driver took us to Pompeii lunch and then Herculaneum. Best mistake ever. ! Anyways, sometimes a good attitude helps, sometimes just asking helps, and sometimes you just have to get lucky. Free upgrades are not a right. Sometimes the spoiled traveler forgets this. Its not very glamorous to travel most of the time, so thats why you see a lot of cranky people on here. I know an extra blanket doesn't fall into any of these categories and yer not a status member, but I just thought I'd throw that out there. |
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