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martig4 Aug 29, 10 12:04 pm

Platinum Status in Eight Days and $800 - No Stays Required
 
Meeting planners are given 10 nights elite credit for every meeting they book systemwide at Marriott.

My wife's business has meetings often at a Courtyard locally for $100 - $200 per meeting.

She has not stayed one night in a Marriott property this year, but has 540 nights elite credit to date this year. Yes, they do a lot of 2 hour meetings. Points are given for the spend. There is a promotion for double points on meetings until Dec 31, 2010. She will rollover about 800 nights by end of year and made Platinum in January!

This means one could have 8 "meetings" at a Marriott property at $100 each, and have eighty nights credit. This technique could also be effective for those who need to do mattress runs to obtain status. I haven't found a better deal for a night credit than $10 per night ($100 per meeting / 10 nights credit).

Has anyone tried to use this strategy to obtain status? Appears this could be more effective than cheap stays on a mattress run to reach a given status level.

CJKatl Aug 29, 10 1:06 pm

What a great tip. I bet there will be people who, come December, will want to do this to cross the finish line to G or P.

allset2travel Aug 29, 10 4:48 pm

Can we call this MR (meeting-run)?

heralder Aug 29, 10 6:42 pm

To qualify for the Rewarding Events program, according to the terms, a meeting may need to include overnight room bookings. Specifically, the FAQ state "the room block must actualize with at least 10 rooms on one night to earn points or miles."

There is a separate provision allowing points for certain catering-only events. It's not clear what the minimum spend level is for a "qualifying group, meeting or event."

stinger Aug 29, 10 7:07 pm

Been aware of this for a couple of years now. I do some bookings of meetings and always get 10 room nights, it shows separately on my totals but is included for my platinum status. Have three already booked for the fall so looking forward to my 30 extra nights as well as triple marriott miles if you use a visa card to pay for the event. My meetings are a little more substantial with a luncheon usually for a $3-5K spend for 50-75 people.

martig4 Aug 29, 10 10:09 pm


Originally Posted by heralder (Post 14568415)
To qualify for the Rewarding Events program, according to the terms, a meeting may need to include overnight room bookings. Specifically, the FAQ state "the room block must actualize with at least 10 rooms on one night to earn points or miles."

There is a separate provision allowing points for certain catering-only events. It's not clear what the minimum spend level is for a "qualifying group, meeting or event."

We always get credit for meetings - without a stay. We've had 59 (590 nights) meetings this year so far. No overnight stays.

qazw1 Aug 30, 10 12:03 am

So one is basically booking a conference room for $100 to $200. Get 10 nights credit every time. And the points will be base on the cost of the meeting?

stinger Aug 30, 10 6:26 am


Originally Posted by qazw1 (Post 14569595)
So one is basically booking a conference room for $100 to $200. Get 10 nights credit every time. And the points will be base on the cost of the meeting?

Yes, points are based on the cost of the room and any F+B. Right now there is a double points promotion for meetings, triple if you pay with visa.

AustinFlyer76 Aug 30, 10 8:08 am

Um ... wow to this post. this is super intriguing. Thanks!

jcthorne Aug 30, 10 9:43 am

Suggestions for hotels to book a cheap meeting for someone just a few nights shy of platnium?

pinniped Aug 30, 10 10:27 am

I'd be hesitant to book a meeting room and then not have a meeting...a little more noticeable than a mattress run where you don't sleep in the room. :)


However, Fantasy Football drafts are this weekend... Someone should go all moneybags and announce that you're hosting your league at the Courtyard, just like a real pro league would do it!! :D


(OK, that's be a seriously minor-league pro league, but still... :p)

VickiSoCal Aug 30, 10 10:39 am

Best bet would be to call your local area hotels- You need to actually show up for this one.

qazw1 Aug 30, 10 4:02 pm

Book a meeting and I guess invite your local FTers.

kennycrudup Aug 30, 10 6:40 pm

Who says anyone has to show up to this "meeting" but me?! I bring my laptop and/or a DVD player (don't they usually have a projector) and watch a movie- "Meeting Run" achieved!

martig4 Aug 30, 10 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by jcthorne (Post 14571328)
Suggestions for hotels to book a cheap meeting for someone just a few nights shy of platnium?

Rooms for an hour or two can be had at both Courtyard's and full-service properties in most areas for very reasonable rates.

Don't ask for more than a standard setup in the room and book for a small number of people.

deannaC Aug 30, 10 6:54 pm

I need 3 meetings i,e $300 to make plat :D plus triple points with visa ^

dgwright99 Aug 30, 10 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by kennycrudup (Post 14574379)
...(don't they usually have a projector) ...

Last time I booked a meeting the charge for the projector was more than the charge for the room....

IME projector is typically an extra, and most hotels really milk the extras.

VickiSoCal Aug 30, 10 7:28 pm

If you know anyone who is involved in local charities or civic organizations- why not see if they need a meeting space for some event? Book it for them and write it off as a donation. I'm the area coordinator for Girl Scouts around here and we always have adult trainings and other such events that we need meeting space for.

vilntrav Aug 30, 10 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by martig4 (Post 14574421)
Rooms for an hour or two can be had at both Courtyard's and full-service properties in most areas for very reasonable rates.

Don't ask for more than a standard setup in the room and book for a small number of people.

A private individual (not a company) could take a room for two hours a few times to get Platinum, and I need to stay many nights ?

Maybe one of those loopholes which will disappear now that it is displayed on FT

annerj Aug 31, 10 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by vilntrav (Post 14575384)
A private individual (not a company) could take a room for two hours a few times to get Platinum, and I need to stay many nights ?

sounds that way....but why would that matter to you?

vilntrav Aug 31, 10 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by annerj (Post 14581958)
sounds that way....but why would that matter to you?

It matters to me if it really works because then I'll be entering this game also.

ttpld100105 Aug 31, 10 10:33 pm

Any FTers in the Bay Area who want to schedule some "meetings"? :-)

gardener Sep 1, 10 6:49 am

Do the nights count toward Megabonus?

mooper Sep 1, 10 11:24 am

The thread title should be "Platinum Status for $300/year". If you apply for the Chase Marriott Visa Sig Prem card in January, you'll get 15 nights. Then, get six $100 meetings, earn 10 EQNs a pop, and you'll have 75 nights and therefore Platinum status. Do this right in the beginning of the year and your status will last for about two years. Net cost: $300/year for Platinum. If you earn points for the $600 spend, your effective cost is even lower.

Want to take it further? If you have (or will soon have) 12 years of membership under your belt and you have enough lifetime points to qualify, but you are short on nights for Lifetime Platinum, you could quickly rack up nights via these meetings and then have them count double towards your Lifetime total when they roll over to 2011.

pinniped Sep 1, 10 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by vilntrav (Post 14575384)
A private individual (not a company) could take a room for two hours a few times to get Platinum, and I need to stay many nights ?

Maybe one of those loopholes which will disappear now that it is displayed on FT

It's not a loophole: it's an intentional part of Marriott's meeting room offering (coupled with an intentional promotion).

I like the charity idea. I still think this is visible enough that booking dummy meetings or just showing up alone might be frowned upon by the hotel. I suspect they could legally refuse your payment and cancel the meeting if they felt like you were gaming the system.

Of course, offering up a meeting room for a local charity would be perfectly legit, even if the hotel suspected you were after the EQN more than good karma. Some small nonprofits hold their board meetings wherever they can space for free. (Restaurants, clubs, member's office conference rooms after hours, whatever.) It shouldn't be hard to find someone willing to accept a sponsored regular timeslot at a Marriott. :)

annerj Sep 1, 10 3:38 pm


Originally Posted by vilntrav (Post 14582024)
It matters to me if it really works because then I'll be entering this game also.

Sorry....I read it as you wanted the loophole closed/didn't like that "others" could do it.

annerj Sep 1, 10 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 14586079)
I still think this is visible enough that booking dummy meetings or just showing up alone might be frowned upon by the hotel. I suspect they could legally refuse your payment and cancel the meeting if they felt like you were gaming the system.

I can't imagine them trying to cancel. If its booked and paid for, IMO, the hotel doesn't care how many/who shows up.

PHLGovFlyer Sep 1, 10 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 14586079)
It's not a loophole: it's an intentional part of Marriott's meeting room offering (coupled with an intentional promotion).

It might be a loophole. As mentioned in post #4 above the FAQ states that rooms must "actualize" with the meeting in order to earn elite credit:

https://www.marriott.com/Multimedia/...Events_FAQ.pdf

Since it appears that folks have been earning Elite Credit without booking rooms this would be the type of thing that MR could want to correct (oops -- did I say that out loud?).

blackhat_3_6 Sep 1, 10 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by PHLGovFlyer (Post 14587720)
It might be a loophole. As mentioned in post #4 above the FAQ states that rooms must "actualize" with the meeting in order to earn elite credit:

https://www.marriott.com/Multimedia/...Events_FAQ.pdf

Since it appears that folks have been earning Elite Credit without booking rooms this would be the type of thing that MR could want to correct (oops -- did I say that out loud?).

The program details PDF contains this quote:


Planning a Meeting or Event Has Its Rewards With Marriott Rewards® Rewarding EventsTM you earn valuable Marriott Rewards points for groups, meetings and events you hold at participating Marriott® hotels around the world. From conferences to business meetings and social events, you qualify to earn Marriott Rewards points by booking 10 or more guest rooms for at least one night. Points can also be earned for catering-only events like teleconferencing, receptions, banquets, weddings and reunions. Simply sign a group or catering contract with the hotel, and as a member of Marriott Rewards you will earn Marriott Rewards points or, if you prefer, airline miles.
https://www.marriott.com/Multimedia/...am_details.pdf

I haven't held a meeting myself but it sounds to me like everything is on the up and up and there isn't any loophole that needs plugging.

pmaddock Sep 2, 10 10:55 am


Originally Posted by VickiSoCal (Post 14574663)
If you know anyone who is involved in local charities or civic organizations- why not see if they need a meeting space for some event? Book it for them and write it off as a donation. I'm the area coordinator for Girl Scouts around here and we always have adult trainings and other such events that we need meeting space for.

Its a nice thought but anyone doing this had better plan on supervising it in some way. Chances are that you would be responsible for any damages and/or any extra's billed (some places will charge if they ask for more chairs and so on).

calitequilasippergirl Sep 3, 10 9:36 am

Sorry, I don't believe in scamming the system. Most people earn their status with paid nights.

I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole. The purpose of this was to encourage REAL meeting planners to use Marriott properties for their needs, not for people to make fake meetings to earn nights at an extremely discounted rate. I am sure the loophole will close soon

mooper Sep 4, 10 3:59 am


Originally Posted by calitequilasippergirl (Post 14597286)
Sorry, I don't believe in scamming the system. Most people earn their status with paid nights.

I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole. The purpose of this was to encourage REAL meeting planners to use Marriott properties for their needs, not for people to make fake meetings to earn nights at an extremely discounted rate. I am sure the loophole will close soon

Taking advantage of Marriott's offer is not scamming them any more than taking advantage of the many other offers identified within FT as the best way to maximize value through a particular program.

Though I'm not convinced that selling essentially pure-profit EQNs tied to an activity that is likely to spur much more high-margin revenue from the majority of incentivized participants is unintentional, I'll presume that Marriott really does regret their decision and I'll consider us lucky to have you policing their generosity.

While you're at it, you might want to keep a vigil for other offers companies make that might be too rich for their own good. Keep an eye on Mile Buzz and some of the blogs run by the more avid FTers and you'll get lots of hot leads. It's easy to find outlandish loopholes being scammed all the time, such as when thousands of bonus miles are earned for making minor purchases and filling out surveys. Oh, and don't overlook the forums dealing with mistake fares... it's a great way for you to contribute to a lubricated system where companies don't even need to watch their step because they can count on their customers to save the day.

On that note, I've noticed that the recent Megabonus offer might be a loophole they want to close. It's possible to purchase twenty $50 nights as a Platinum, stacking various discounts (gift card offers, cash back sites, etc.) to get the actual cash outlay down to about $40, and then earn 300 (arrival gift) + 2000 (Megabonus) + 250 (chase cc) + 750 (regular plus elite bonus earnings) on each night. This amounts to 3300 MR points, a free newspaper, breakfast, gym and pool use, and a place to stay, all for a measly $40 cash outlay, per night. Even if you completely throw out the value of the hotel (which certainly costs Marriott something to provide), the points alone are costing you only 1.21 cents each. You can then take those 3300 x 20 points, add them to others you accumulate similarly, and redeem them via a travel package when an airline that is being victimized by a 50-100% matching miles promo has an active offer. You can easily approach 2 cents per MR point in redemption value this way, even though you paid much less for them and got twenty nights of hotel use to boot. Most people pay far more per point and don't get nearly this value out of their Marriott spending. This is clearly a loophole by which Marriott could be scammed if someone is motivated enough, and they need to be made aware. Shall I take it upon myself to tell them, or will you?

jan_az Sep 4, 10 3:56 pm


Originally Posted by calitequilasippergirl (Post 14597286)
.

I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole.

You have got to be kidding me - though I have never done this - and didnt even get the nights/points on a legitimate catering event. I would never contact Marriot about it

Zurich Flyer Sep 4, 10 4:43 pm


Originally Posted by stinger (Post 14570399)
Yes, points are based on the cost of the room and any F+B. Right now there is a double points promotion for meetings, triple if you pay with visa.

Do we have a link for the source?

I am not yet convinced that a "meeting" without at least ten rooms or without catering will give you anything at all.

Here are the German t&cs:


Allgemeine Geschäftsbedingungen ....Qualifizierte Veranstaltungen müssen mindestens 10 Übernachtungen für eine Nacht beinhalten (mit oder ohne Catering) oder Veranstalungen ausschließlich mit Catering.
That means in English

Terms and conditions .... Qualified events must include a minimum of 10 nights for a night (with or without catering) or events exclusively with catering.

Zurich Flyer Sep 4, 10 5:28 pm

Another question: Why would you pay 800 $ for a status if you never sleep at a Marriott hotel?

In Europe, you pay around 200 $ at least per "meeting". That would make the Platinum status 1'600 $. The Gold status would cost you 1'000 $.


That's too much money simply for the status, isn't it? You can usually buy back your status at the beginning of the year. If I remember right, it was 25k for gold. That would be around 350 $ for 25'000 points = Gold status @:-)

boomdog Sep 4, 10 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by calitequilasippergirl (Post 14597286)
Sorry, I don't believe in scamming the system. Most people earn their status with paid nights.

I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole. The purpose of this was to encourage REAL meeting planners to use Marriott properties for their needs, not for people to make fake meetings to earn nights at an extremely discounted rate. I am sure the loophole will close soon

Someday, I hope that I will grow up to be a person of impeccable moral standards like you.

Until then, I'll just settle for not being a jerk.

bd
:D

MyTravels Sep 4, 10 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by calitequilasippergirl (Post 14597286)
I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole.

This must be a joke. Contacting Marriott?? C'mon, unless there's a whistle blower award (which I would hope legitimate offers wouldn't qualify for).

Even if that were to happen, why would someone brag about it??

boomdog Sep 4, 10 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by MyTravels (Post 14604375)
This must be a joke. Contacting Marriott?? C'mon, unless there's a whistle blower award (which I would hope legitimate offers wouldn't qualify for).

Even if that were to happen, why would someone brag about it??

Yeah, you must be right. Color me red!

:o

dalm Sep 4, 10 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by calitequilasippergirl (Post 14597286)
Sorry, I don't believe in scamming the system. Most people earn their status with paid nights.

I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole. The purpose of this was to encourage REAL meeting planners to use Marriott properties for their needs, not for people to make fake meetings to earn nights at an extremely discounted rate. I am sure the loophole will close soon


Can't believe you would do that. Shame on you. This is FT.

mapu Sep 5, 10 7:33 am


Originally Posted by calitequilasippergirl (Post 14597286)
Sorry, I don't believe in scamming the system. Most people earn their status with paid nights.

I took the liberty of contacting Marriott about this and this was NOT an intentional loophole. The purpose of this was to encourage REAL meeting planners to use Marriott properties for their needs, not for people to make fake meetings to earn nights at an extremely discounted rate. I am sure the loophole will close soon

:td::td::td: shame on you


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