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Ten (10) Elite Nights are given for each meeting held in a participating hotel under the "Rewarding Events" program. See below for non-participating brands. Information about the Rewarding Events program may be found at https://www.marriott.com/meeting-eve...els/rewards.mi

The 10 elite nights per meeting are independent of any hotel rooms booked in conjunction with the meeting. In fact, no hotel rooms have to be booked as part of the meeting in order to receive credit for 10 elite nights.

Although the Rewarding Events webpage refers to room nights for meeting participants, the most important section is the one that states 10 Elite Nights, regardless if you or your guest is paying for it

In general, a written contract is required (or should be obtained). In many cases, the meeting is booked through a central Marriott group sales office instead of directly with a hotel. If booked through a central Marriott group sales office, there is a three-page contract that makes reference to the Rewarding Events program on page 2 of the agreement. A MR member number should be included in this area of the contract by the group sales office.

FAQs:

Q: What brands participate in the Rewarding Events program?
A: AC Hotels by Marriott, Aloft, Autograph Collection, Courtyard by Marriott, Delta Hotels by Marriott, EDITION, Element, Fairfield by Marriott, Four Points by Marriott, Gaylord Hotels, JW Marriott, LeMéridien, The Luxury Collection, Marriott Hotels, Marriott Vacation Club, Moxy Hotels, Protea Hotels by Marriott, Renaissance Hotels, The Ritz-Carlton, Sheraton, St. Regis, Tribute Portfolio, W Hotels, & Westin.
Residence Inn by Marriott, TownePlace Suites, & Marriott Executive Apartments do not participate in the program.

Q: How do I find a hotel that participates?
A: Click on the link to the Rewarding Events page and then in the "Plan" section of the page click on the "Find a Hotel" box. Enter the city you'd like to have your meeting in, purpose of event (Business) and then check the "I need meeting/event space" box. Enter the size of your meeting (2 attendees should work) and then click the "Find" box. Leave the start date and end date blank. A list of potential hotels will be shown. The smallest meeting room is not usually shown online --- you may need to call each hotel to find out which one has a boardroom or other small meeting room. Once you've found a small meeting room, then request a quote online.

Q: How quickly will Marriott respond with a quote?
A: Usually within a day or two --- and usually via email. The email should contain a telephone number of the group sales contact. Give them a call and tell them you'd like to follow up on the quote and you're interested in booking the smallest room available for a 2 person meeting for an hour. If they quote a price that's higher than you want to pay, ask them if they can get approval for a lower priced meeting (e.g., a recent quote was for $75 for an 8 hour use of a CY boardroom). They accepted a counter of $50 for a one-hour meeting in the room (plus service charge plus local sales tax). Urban hotels may charge significantly higher rates for meeting space than a smaller, less congested city.

Q: Is a contract required?
A: The terms of the program suggest "yes" --- although there are reports that 10 elite nights have been granted without contracts. A best practice would be to obtain a contract.

Q: How long do points and EQNs take to post after the event is over?
A: Generally, this takes 3+ business days. According to Marriott, it can take 15 business days. If you do not see anything post after 15 business days, contact the hotel before contacting Marriott customer support. The hotel has to be the one to post it.

You will get an e-mail with a subject line Your Rewarding Events Award has Posted: EVENT NAME

Q: Will the hotel know what I am talking about when I say points and elite night credits?
A: Probably not. They may know about the rewarding events points being 3x per dollar spent, but not always. Usually they know of only the Marriott system (Group Posting Tool) where they input how much you spent and when. This is done after the event and is usually authorized by the sales or general manager.

Q: The contract doesn't say anything about points, will I still earn them?
A: YMMV but so far all the electronic contracts from the website state it, but some fail to read it. The paper contracts usually talk about points, but some reports that they don't, but still post. Remember this is a Marriott Rewards benefit that the hotels don't seem to be footing the bill for.
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Old Mar 22, 17, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by PayItForward View Post
Not to mention the fake demand could easily exceed the limited availability and causes inconvenience to folks with real needs for these same resources. Properties cannot oversell meeting rooms unlike rooms for accommodations. This is one of those situations where if you want something, you have to work for it. I have real business needs for these meeting rooms and the nights are gravy which I hate to lose due to blatant abuse.
The amount of fake meetings is so trivial I am fairly confident it will have no noticeable effect on meeting room availability for your precious real meetings. Also, I don't think Marriott cares either way as they are making money either way.
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Old Mar 22, 17, 7:59 pm
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The amount of fake meetings is so trivial I am fairly confident it will have no noticeable effect on meeting room availability for your precious real meetings. Also, I don't think Marriott cares either way as they are making money either way.
My reply was in reference to shorthauldad's comment

I can understand no-one wanting to name a specific property as they would likely get loads of mentions on blogs ... then inundated with fake meetings ... and this loophole might just get shut down.
If someone outed <property A> on a blog has availability for say USD 75.00, news will spread and that gets everyone booking at <property A> which may only have 1 or 2 meeting rooms. Whoever really needs a space at property A will now have more difficulty getting the space. "Fake" meetings are flexible so I can imagine the conversation will go something like "let me have the next available date". At the very least, the price will go up since now there is higher demand. On a Marriott level, yes, fake meetings is likely very minimal and sales are sales. But from a customer point of view, this is not the same. Sharing a cheap flight / room deal is not likely going to generate speculative bookings as if one does not show, there is no negotiation to get credits. From what I read here, there are phantom meetings without anyone showing up so, YES. I believe if a good deal at specific properties that allows phantom events if broadcast would significantly impact legitimate users for that property's resources either in lower availability or higher pricing.
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Old Mar 22, 17, 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by fordan View Post
I wouldn't think so. Nights don't transfer between programs, only elite status. Otherwise all Marriott Platinums would be SPG Plat/75s and we aren't.

If you assume that the two programs will merge in time for the 2018 program year you might be able to get yourself up to 100 nights on the Marriott side before the merger combines nights, but there's no guarantee there'll be an Ambassador status in the new combined program.
Appreciate the thought leadership.
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Old Mar 24, 17, 5:04 am
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Just one quick question: I've got a draft of a contract from a hotel. The contract included the multiple bookings with mention of points but no mention of elite nights. The contract is not the generic Marriott business centre one.
1 Should I get the hotel to seperate the contracts?
2 Do I need to double confirm the inclusion of elite nights?
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Old Mar 24, 17, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by Redwoodw View Post
Just one quick question: I've got a draft of a contract from a hotel. The contract included the multiple bookings with mention of points but no mention of elite nights. The contract is not the generic Marriott business centre one.
1 Should I get the hotel to seperate the contracts?
2 Do I need to double confirm the inclusion of elite nights?
1 contract (multiple days) = 1 event.
None of my contracts have any references to nights but I have legit events and has established relationships with the various sales managers. As long as event is entered through the Group Posting Tool, the nights are automatically triggered.
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Old Mar 24, 17, 9:16 am
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So far I've done 5 events.

The first 2 I got the nights a few days afterwards. The 2 after that I didn't get anything. I asked about it and they were in the process of changing sales staff and my points will be posted soon.

The 5th event I got the points the same day.

I booked the next event but I'm still waiting for my 2 missing events.

All events were booked at least 1 week apart at the same hotel for 1 hour(half price of listed for under a half day) for 2 people. I have not shown up to any of the meetings.

I did not do anything with rooms at all. I did not ask about elite nights. I just asked when my points will be posted and each time I got points, it came with elite nights.
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Old Mar 27, 17, 4:27 am
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Anyone tried leveraging this to get plat prem?
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Old Mar 27, 17, 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by kkl View Post
Anyone tried leveraging this to get plat prem?
It could help, but since MR does not provide info on how they determine the top 3%, you will be shooting in the dark. I'm sure if someone earned 1000 nights it would get someone's attention. Not sure it would be good or bad. Loopholes tend to get plugged when brought to program management.
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Old Mar 27, 17, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408 View Post
It could help, but since MR does not provide info on how they determine the top 3%, you will be shooting in the dark. I'm sure if someone earned 1000 nights it would get someone's attention. Not sure it would be good or bad. Loopholes tend to get plugged when brought to program management.
Meeting nights are classified under Bonus nights. I dont know if Bonus Nights qualify for Plat Prem.
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Old Mar 27, 17, 9:34 pm
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Has anyone had any problems receiving the elite nights from a event in Asia? I am considering booking a meeting room, but am not sure if I will receive the nights.
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Old Mar 28, 17, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by buckeyes1212 View Post
Has anyone had any problems receiving the elite nights from a event in Asia? I am considering booking a meeting room, but am not sure if I will receive the nights.
It's going to depend upon the training the property has received and how well they perform. Make sure your requirement includes the elite nights that should be spelled out in the contract. If not, ask if they know about the posting tool that is to be used that triggers the nights to post.

If you have any specific property you wish to use, post the name and maybe someone can speak to their specific experience.
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Old Mar 28, 17, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408 View Post
It's going to depend upon the training the property has received and how well they perform. Make sure your requirement includes the elite nights that should be spelled out in the contract. If not, ask if they know about the posting tool that is to be used that triggers the nights to post.

If you have any specific property you wish to use, post the name and maybe someone can speak to their specific experience.
I called JW Marriott in Bangkok. I asked for a meeting room for 2 people and asked if this qualifies for the EQN. Got a response back that I would need to book an event for 10+ people in order to get the 10 EQN. I don't think they are correct but am I mistaken?
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Old Mar 28, 17, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by buckeyes1212 View Post
I called JW Marriott in Bangkok. I asked for a meeting room for 2 people and asked if this qualifies for the EQN. Got a response back that I would need to book an event for 10+ people in order to get the 10 EQN. I don't think they are correct but am I mistaken?
There are two different programs, one where you book 10 rooms and you get credit as well as the guests that are in the rooms. This is is separate and usually not known outside the sales office. You might try calling MR and asking them to confirm that property participates and help educate them.

Again, if they know about the posting tool mentioned in above posts, then it will probably happen.
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Old Mar 28, 17, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by buckeyes1212 View Post
I called JW Marriott in Bangkok. I asked for a meeting room for 2 people and asked if this qualifies for the EQN. Got a response back that I would need to book an event for 10+ people in order to get the 10 EQN. I don't think they are correct but am I mistaken?
The hotel is probably not familiar with its own rules. I would just choose another property to book the meeting, as long as it's posted via the Group Posting Tool you should get the 10 elite nights. I received mine after 2 weeks. I had to email back the manager after she asked why I didn't show up for the meeting.
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Old Mar 28, 17, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by RogerD408 View Post
There are two different programs, one where you book 10 rooms and you get credit as well as the guests that are in the rooms. This is is separate and usually not known outside the sales office. You might try calling MR and asking them to confirm that property participates and help educate them.

Again, if they know about the posting tool mentioned in above posts, then it will probably happen.

Thanks for the tips. I called MR about it. The CSR said that it would qualify for the elite nights, as I expected. She also said that once the points post, the nights should follow within a day. If they don't post, then I should call her back and she would post them. Do CSR at MR have the ability to post the nights? I was under the impression that the hotel does it.
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