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jessej Oct 26, 2009 10:03 am

a new low or just continued poor performance?
 
I have noticed a major decline in the service/competence of the Marriott desk staff over the last 6 months

I am amazed as I thought with the economy being down, that Marriott would be in a position to hirebrighter/inteligent people - but I continue to be proven wrong

So on Thursday night I check in at the courtyard - newark, CA
I give the clerk a $50 BB. He looks at it and tells me its no good. I ask why? He says the cert is only good for 2 day stays and I am staying for 3 days so it's not valid. I tell him to check with the manager and get back to me.

I will be asking my boss to push for a new hotel chain when this contract is up!!

keeton Oct 26, 2009 11:39 am

I wouldn't blame the whole Marriott chain on the basis of one Courtyard employee.

Maybe I am just lucky but in my last few Marriott stays (Ren Walnut Creek, SF Marquis, Marriott Dayton, Marriott Cincy North) I have found the front desk staffs to be universally outstanding - almost like the good ol' days!

jessej Oct 26, 2009 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by keeton (Post 12711501)
I wouldn't blame the whole Marriott chain on the basis of one Courtyard employee.

Maybe I am just lucky but in my last few Marriott stays (Ren Walnut Creek, SF Marquis, Marriott Dayton, Marriott Cincy North) I have found the front desk staffs to be universally outstanding - almost like the good ol' days!

Thats just the last stay

I have them going back for the last 6 stays

e.g. the stay before

check in at the newark, new jersey courtyard
give a $50 BB, it says residence inn on the front (where it was earned)
line 1 on the back says its good at any marriott except execstay

check in agent cant figure it out

the next day i get a call from the front desk
they say it cant be used
i tell them to turn it over and read the directions

get a call an hour later
they tell me it cant be used
so i call and talk to the manager
(or someone who said they were the manager)
they say they will take care of it

manager calls me back
says it cant be used because it says residence inn on the front

so at checkout icall the manger
he apologixes since his staff cant read directions


unfortunatly i have even more stories of ignorance

hhoope01 Oct 26, 2009 2:14 pm

The BB's I've used in the past, for the most part, have been processed correctly. The biggest problem I've had to deal with is the B1G1 Free night EEO is not processed correctly. Very few times have I used one where the bill at check-out correctly processed that coupon.

Personally, I wonder if part of the problem is Marriott's systems might be a bit complex, confusing, or just hard to use. If you add to that type of system an environment with a high-turnover rate, you are asking to cause your customers problems.

mjtx Oct 26, 2009 2:44 pm

We always print 2 copies of our B1G1 and give one on check-in and then have the duplicate for the end of the stay when they can't find the one we gave to them when we checked in.

NDDomer86 Oct 26, 2009 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by hhoope01 (Post 12712468)
Personally, I wonder if part of the problem is Marriott's systems might be a bit complex, confusing, or just hard to use. If you add to that type of system an environment with a high-turnover rate, you are asking to cause your customers problems.

There is a way to go in and change the rates for each night of the stay in Marriott's PMS but it is not well known to employees (certainly wasn't taught to me at any point except by a fellow night auditor) and possibly set up such that not all front desk employees have access to it (I'm not sure as since I was night audit I had access to the full system). Perhaps better training or more trust in the employees would allow for these to be processed more easily.

socrates Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am


Originally Posted by bulldoggolfer05 (Post 12713291)
There is a way to go in and change the rates for each night of the stay in Marriott's PMS but it is not well known to employees (certainly wasn't taught to me at any point except by a fellow night auditor) and possibly set up such that not all front desk employees have access to it (I'm not sure as since I was night audit I had access to the full system). Perhaps better training or more trust in the employees would allow for these to be processed more easily.

It's actually very simple to change the rate in both PMS & Fosse, you just select the rate and change it...if you have the access in MARSHA it's just as easy

bigguyinpasadena Oct 27, 2009 10:00 am

Poorly trained FDR's and Jr. Managers are nothing new at Marriott Properties.
Some folks have even refered to these folks as "Chimps" :p

NDDomer86 Oct 27, 2009 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 12716470)
It's actually very simple to change the rate in both PMS & Fosse, you just select the rate and change it...if you have the access in MARSHA it's just as easy

I wasn't speaking of day of changes in rate plan (obviously this just involves changing the rate on the main screen although one must also remember to change the rate code as well or it will throw off revenue numbers) but rather speaking of changing the rates in the reservation to automatically change the rate on a given day. In regards to MARSHA, keyword is IF you have access, which many front desk employees don't.

socrates Oct 28, 2009 8:38 am


Originally Posted by bulldoggolfer05 (Post 12719215)
I wasn't speaking of day of changes in rate plan (obviously this just involves changing the rate on the main screen although one must also remember to change the rate code as well or it will throw off revenue numbers) but rather speaking of changing the rates in the reservation to automatically change the rate on a given day. In regards to MARSHA, keyword is IF you have access, which many front desk employees don't.

still not that difficult to accomplish via either PMS or FOSSE...a much better system than the old days where it was manual with a R2 code

DenverBrian Oct 28, 2009 9:00 am


Originally Posted by bigguyinpasadena (Post 12717730)
Poorly trained FDR's and Jr. Managers are nothing new at Marriott Properties.
Some folks have even refered to these folks as "Chimps" :p

And some people lose all credibility despite otherwise interesting posts when they use that highly offensive word in such a context. @:-)

holocker Oct 28, 2009 9:49 am

I have never has an EEO processed corectly. Always have to go to the desk on check out and present another one.

pinniped Oct 28, 2009 10:19 am

I always have to explain the EEO's. I don't sweat it too much: it's a great benefit and I've never left a property without having a correct bill. I just know it will take a few minutes for me to explain it.

The old Premium Pounds certificates were far worse. Many Marriott employees had never heard of British pounds or the concept of different people in the world using different currencies. On a few occasions, I would use either a USA Today or a WSJ to explain it. Sometimes I'd leave without getting those posted right and have to call later and get it worked out.

The ironic part is that there are some Marriott properties out there where I find the front desk staff more knowledgeable, educated, and competent than I've ever seen at other brands. Ren Chancery Court, Marriott Seattle Waterfront, Mayflower Ren in DC - those are just three off the top of my head where everybody in the hotel seems to take pride in doing their jobs very well.

TrojanHorse Oct 28, 2009 5:13 pm


Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 12724168)
And some people lose all credibility despite otherwise interesting posts when they use that highly offensive word in such a context. @:-)

I agree

no need for him to put down chimps like that

NDDomer86 Oct 29, 2009 1:36 am


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 12724036)
still not that difficult to accomplish via either PMS or FOSSE...a much better system than the old days where it was manual with a R2 code

I never said that it was difficult just that it is not well known to front desk employees and not every front desk employee has access to it ;)


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