Feb 9, 2018, 7:31 pm
Last edit by: SkiAdcock
Marriott-family hotels in "xx" means all Marriott brand hotels in that city. It does not mean hotels that are family friendly, although there could be some family friendly ones on the list. But it refers to the various brands. Marriott-family hotels in XX usually have posts asking which property is better, etc, & trip reports are usually in the property specific threads."
Marriott-family hotels in Manhattan (NYC) (thru Oct. 2018) [Merged threads]
Jul 8, 2008, 7:07 pm
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If you believe that your stay could stretch out into several weeks, you might want to try the Residence Inn on 6th at roughly 38th. Call the res. dept at the hotel itself; you should be able to negotiate a favorable rate.
Jul 9, 2008, 8:53 am
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Considering all the good info you guys have shared.
One thing to consider is that I'll have to work 6 12-hour days when there, probably 6AM - 6PM (or 7), so I may miss breakfast and also the evening CL food.
I'll be there day-to-day, won't know how long I'm staying, so can't negotiate long term rates. Also can't prepay for the same reason.
I will probably have a week or two before I need to book, so I'll have time to check all of the codes.
One thing to consider is that I'll have to work 6 12-hour days when there, probably 6AM - 6PM (or 7), so I may miss breakfast and also the evening CL food.
I'll be there day-to-day, won't know how long I'm staying, so can't negotiate long term rates. Also can't prepay for the same reason.
I will probably have a week or two before I need to book, so I'll have time to check all of the codes.
Jul 9, 2008, 10:42 am
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Is the Marriott Downtown out of the question? I know some of the weekday rates can be horrendous but I have often seen 'Look No Further' opportunities for this particular property which can bring the price down to a more manageable level. As mentioned previously, Premium Pounds coupons would also make a big dent in the price.
Jul 15, 2008, 6:44 am
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When checking marriott.com yesterday, I didn't see as many hotels in NYC available with our corporate rate. Since there are many of us employees potentially travelling for work, I think our corporate travel agent is sitting on most of the rooms at our rate.
You can only imagine my reaction when I heard from a friend that my employer will probably assign me a room (presumably the cheapest room they can find) and a roommate.
Well, that has only increased the urgency to find a room I like (will probably need 2 beds) at the best rate available. I made a reservations at a couple of candidate hotels and found out that I had already invoked the Plat guarantee. I may request a LNF rate soon.
You can only imagine my reaction when I heard from a friend that my employer will probably assign me a room (presumably the cheapest room they can find) and a roommate.
Well, that has only increased the urgency to find a room I like (will probably need 2 beds) at the best rate available. I made a reservations at a couple of candidate hotels and found out that I had already invoked the Plat guarantee. I may request a LNF rate soon.
Jul 16, 2008, 3:56 pm
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Considering all the good info you guys have shared.
One thing to consider is that I'll have to work 6 12-hour days when there, probably 6AM - 6PM (or 7), so I may miss breakfast and also the evening CL food.
I'll be there day-to-day, won't know how long I'm staying, so can't negotiate long term rates. Also can't prepay for the same reason.
One thing to consider is that I'll have to work 6 12-hour days when there, probably 6AM - 6PM (or 7), so I may miss breakfast and also the evening CL food.
I'll be there day-to-day, won't know how long I'm staying, so can't negotiate long term rates. Also can't prepay for the same reason.
Jul 21, 2008, 12:51 pm
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category codes/ranks? - especially in NYC
Do you guys know how they truly rate the Marriott Category Codes/Ranks (1-7) Technically, its the Rewards Category value.
My question is that almost EVERY hotel in NYC / Manhattan is considered at 7 ( or at least a 6).
How is that true?
I had heard that to be a Class 7 ... it had to be a resort, or have a water view, or a spa, or at least "n" restaurants, etc.
So how does a Courtyard or a Residence Inn quality as a Reward 7?
Any thoughts ... i assume this is 100% because the cost of living in NYC manhattan justifies that many points/dollars are necessary. But it sure sounds pretty crappy to get a Courtyard for the same amount of points i could get a JW Marriott in Ko Olina.
My question is that almost EVERY hotel in NYC / Manhattan is considered at 7 ( or at least a 6).
How is that true?
I had heard that to be a Class 7 ... it had to be a resort, or have a water view, or a spa, or at least "n" restaurants, etc.
So how does a Courtyard or a Residence Inn quality as a Reward 7?
Any thoughts ... i assume this is 100% because the cost of living in NYC manhattan justifies that many points/dollars are necessary. But it sure sounds pretty crappy to get a Courtyard for the same amount of points i could get a JW Marriott in Ko Olina.
Jul 21, 2008, 1:19 pm
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I'm quite convinced that the location of the hotel is the primary determining factor for the category. I've stayed in some pretty mediocre looking rooms in pretty ordinary looking hotels ranked as category 5 and up. Those hotels were in prime destination cities. I've stayed in delightful rooms in marvelous hotels ranked as low as category 3. These were in less popular locations. It looks like if it's in the right location, it's a minimum of category 5.
Jul 21, 2008, 1:32 pm
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There was actually a thread on this at one time. You might want to do a search & see if you can dig it up. Cheers.
Jul 21, 2008, 1:33 pm
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Starwood has confirmed that their categories are simply based on average rates - the more cash the room costs, the higher the category. I'd assume Marriott is the same - it makes sense business-wise, and explains the NYC categories.
Jul 21, 2008, 1:39 pm
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I believe someone from Marriott has stated at one point that it was based on demand for award redemption. Makes sense - supply and demand driving the price (award level). And room rate, as SPG says they use, is a pretty good proxy for demand, so the two are roughly analogous.
It makes more sense to me than "water view", "spa", etc.
It makes more sense to me than "water view", "spa", etc.
Jul 21, 2008, 3:59 pm
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Given that most resorts are actually Cat. 6 or less, I would say what you heard is not correct. In fact, my favorite resort Marriott anywhere is a Cat. 6 property (Harbor Beach Marriott). My understanding has always been similar to what others here are saying, that it is based on the nightly rate and possibly the amount of awards purchased for that property. If that is true, then it makes perfect sense that most of the properties in major downtown locations like NYC and London would be Cat. 7, even if they aren't top of the line FS Marriotts.
Jul 21, 2008, 5:58 pm
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) has said previously that award categories are based on demand...though I wonder then, how do they assign categories to new hotels?And as far as the Courtyard and Residence Inn in NY requiring more points than the Ko Olina, I've seen the Residence Inn in NYC have rates over $600 at certain times of the year....Ko Olina can often be had at about $350. Ko Olina used to be a Cat 6 but is now a Cat 7 as well.
Jul 21, 2008, 9:45 pm
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My guess is that both average rate and reward demand are factors in assigning the Cat.
Jul 30, 2008, 12:00 pm
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Are the concierge lounge hours still quite restrictive with no weekend service? Do Gold members receive access to the lounge here or only breakfast in the restaurant?
Jul 30, 2008, 4:06 pm
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I don't know about Gold receiving access - but the lounge IS closed on the weekends.