Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Apr 16, 2018, 4:15 pm
#2701
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,016
Hard to say. The FAQ states:
As written, it could be interpreted that the Suite Night Awards are restricted to those who meet the qualification criteria (50 or 75 nights) each year, and not grandfathered to those with lifetime status. If so, it would mean there is virtually no difference between Lifetime Platinum and Lifetime Premier Plat (only difference would be 50% bonus vs. 75% bonus earn rate).
For complimentary suite upgrades outside the suite night awards, priority is hotel discretion and the new documents don't document this well other than saying time of check-in. It seems to me mobile app would be the best way to guarantee this unless you showed up at the hotel desk early and there happened to be a suite available.
As written, it could be interpreted that the Suite Night Awards are restricted to those who meet the qualification criteria (50 or 75 nights) each year, and not grandfathered to those with lifetime status. If so, it would mean there is virtually no difference between Lifetime Platinum and Lifetime Premier Plat (only difference would be 50% bonus vs. 75% bonus earn rate).
For complimentary suite upgrades outside the suite night awards, priority is hotel discretion and the new documents don't document this well other than saying time of check-in. It seems to me mobile app would be the best way to guarantee this unless you showed up at the hotel desk early and there happened to be a suite available.
Apr 16, 2018, 4:18 pm
#2702
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 47
I am 9 nights short of LTP. Do I need to get those nights before Aug 1 or Jan 1, 2019?
Apr 16, 2018, 4:23 pm
#2703
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New York
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott LTPP, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 1,079
Originally Posted by View from the Boarding Area
Upgrades. Suite upgrades become a Marriott benefit finally. 50 night elites are entitled to standard (or ‘select’) suites when available, which should be thought of as ‘the Starwood benefit.’
David Flueck tells me that the “expectation is that our members are upgraded to the best available room including select or standard suites, and we work with all of our owners and properties to make sure they’re delivering on the member benefits.”
Five Suite Night Awards are given as a choice at 50 nights, and 5 more at 75 nights. This should help to manage demand against availability, but is a cut for Starwood’s 50 night Platinums used to getting 10 (and a real win for Marriott elites who hadn’t gotten any).
David Flueck tells me that the “expectation is that our members are upgraded to the best available room including select or standard suites, and we work with all of our owners and properties to make sure they’re delivering on the member benefits.”
Five Suite Night Awards are given as a choice at 50 nights, and 5 more at 75 nights. This should help to manage demand against availability, but is a cut for Starwood’s 50 night Platinums used to getting 10 (and a real win for Marriott elites who hadn’t gotten any).
Originally Posted by The Points Guy
While I’ll get all those perks no matter how many times I stay at SPG hotels going forward, I’ll still have good reason to go for 50 nights a year or more, even with Lifetime Platinum. That’s because at 50 nights each year, I get 10 Suite Night Awards, which are upgrades that I can confirm in advance depending on availability.
Apr 16, 2018, 4:31 pm
#2705
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SNA
Programs: Bonvoy LTTE/AMB, AmEx Plat, National EE, WN A-List, CLEAR+, Covid-19
Posts: 4,963
As soon-to-be LTPP who'll probably never hit any annual stay requirement again (so therefore not being given the upgrade certs), I'll be curious to see if my "... are there any upgrades available?" success rate changes mid-'19 and beyond.
One thing that DOES concern me is price. I've been status-matched SPG Plat for ~18 mos now, yet rarely stay in SPG properties as they're generally higher-priced in the areas I've been staying lately (if they even exist at all). I wonder if the prices will change enough after the merger (but I'm sure they will change ) to drive more SPG stays, if the MI prices go up enough such that they're closer to parity, and what will that mean for me?
Apr 16, 2018, 4:32 pm
#2706
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: OGG
Programs: AA Plat, A List Pref, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 356
I have similar questions. I am short on points for LTP. If this points transfer in August from SPG counts toward lifetime points, then I am good to go. If it doesn't, then I guess I have until December 31, 2018, to earn those points from a different source. Right now, since SPG point transfers don't count, I need to assume that they won't count in August, either. But I don't know that for sure.
Apr 16, 2018, 4:37 pm
#2707
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,016
Well, as a very-long thread here suggests, there never seemed to be much of an "order" per se anyway.
As soon-to-be LTPP who'll probably never hit any annual stay requirement again (so therefore not being given the upgrade certs), I'll be curious to see if my "... are there any upgrades available?" success rate changes mid-'19 and beyond.
One thing that DOES concern me is price. I've been status-matched SPG Plat for ~18 mos now, yet rarely stay in SPG properties as they're generally higher-priced in the areas I've been staying lately (if they even exist at all). I wonder if the prices will change enough after the merger (but I'm sure they will change ) to drive more SPG stays, if the MI prices go up enough such that they're closer to parity, and what will that mean for me?
As soon-to-be LTPP who'll probably never hit any annual stay requirement again (so therefore not being given the upgrade certs), I'll be curious to see if my "... are there any upgrades available?" success rate changes mid-'19 and beyond.
One thing that DOES concern me is price. I've been status-matched SPG Plat for ~18 mos now, yet rarely stay in SPG properties as they're generally higher-priced in the areas I've been staying lately (if they even exist at all). I wonder if the prices will change enough after the merger (but I'm sure they will change ) to drive more SPG stays, if the MI prices go up enough such that they're closer to parity, and what will that mean for me?
Apr 16, 2018, 4:52 pm
#2708
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,004
They just say "If you’ve previously achieved Lifetime Elite status in Rewards or SPG, you will have that Lifetime Elite status in the new program. In addition, when you combine Rewards and SPG accounts, we will combine your lifetime activity across both toward Lifetime Elite status in the new combined program." - it doesn't clarify if, on the consolidation, they'll consolidate the years + points accumulated and then say you retroactively made the old LTP programs across MR + SPG, or if it'll just count on qualification for lifetime tiers in the new program (different!)...
Last edited by CPRich; Apr 16, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Apr 16, 2018, 4:54 pm
#2709
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MSY; 2-time FT Fantasy Football Champ, now in recovery.
Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
Posts: 14,517
New qualification requirements are:
Lifetime Silver Elite: 250 lifetime nights + 5 years at Silver Elite (or higher)
Lifetime Gold Elite: 400 lifetime nights + 7 years at Gold Elite (or higher)
Lifetime Platinum Elite: 600 Lifetime Nights + 10 years at Platinum Elite (or higher)
Lifetime Silver Elite: 250 lifetime nights + 5 years at Silver Elite (or higher)
Lifetime Gold Elite: 400 lifetime nights + 7 years at Gold Elite (or higher)
Lifetime Platinum Elite: 600 Lifetime Nights + 10 years at Platinum Elite (or higher)
Old Marriott Gold = New Marriott Plat (50 nights)
Old Marriott Plat = New Marriott Plat Premier (75 nights)
Will this be the case for lifetime status under the new rules based on the old account history?
For new LT Plat (50 night) status, will they count the number of past years I have had 50 night (old Gold) status, or the number of past years I have had old Plat (75 night) status?
Apr 16, 2018, 5:20 pm
#2710
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
How does SPG treat this for current LTPs? Do they get the certs without the stays? Marriott may have been overdone it on making the point that you get your first five at P50 and the next at P75 that they overcomplicated the explanation which we may be interpreting incorrectly.
Apr 16, 2018, 5:24 pm
#2711
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: IC Amb :-(, UA silver, BA Gold, SPG Plat, A-Club Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 913
any word on potential differences between tiers in terms of how they match up with an airline partner? up to this year plat premiers with Marriott were given UA Gold - a genuinely useful benefit for some.
if the Lifetime Plat Prem corresponded to lifetime Star Alliance Gold that would be a significant difference between LTP and LTPP - I'm not hopeful, but it's another item worth adding to the list of open questions.....
if the Lifetime Plat Prem corresponded to lifetime Star Alliance Gold that would be a significant difference between LTP and LTPP - I'm not hopeful, but it's another item worth adding to the list of open questions.....
Apr 16, 2018, 5:28 pm
#2712
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Bonvoy Titanium, UA Silver, HH G, IHG P, Hyatt P
Posts: 56
If you want to be grand fathered into LTPP then I think it has to be completed before Aug 1. Otherwise, don't worry about it because both old Marriott LTG and LTP = the LTP in the new program. So I would recommend getting it done in the next 3 months if it's reasonably possible, or you'll undoubtedly be kicking yourself sometime down the road. Or if the new LTP is fine for you then you are set for life.
Apr 16, 2018, 5:29 pm
#2713
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Denver, CO, USA
Programs: Former 1KMM now free as UA Gold MM, former HH D, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 1,121
Several questions on this.
So may members qualify under the pre-changes Marriott Lifetime chart until December 31, 2018? That would of course include the tripled points transferring from Starwood in August?
I'm at 600 nights and 1.4 million points. I'm assuming the big transfer of 150,000 Starwood points (tripled to 450,000) will put me well over the threshold for Marriott Lifetime Gold. Plus I'll have 100 nights or so in the Starwood program. Need some clarity on this from the forum.
So may members qualify under the pre-changes Marriott Lifetime chart until December 31, 2018? That would of course include the tripled points transferring from Starwood in August?
I'm at 600 nights and 1.4 million points. I'm assuming the big transfer of 150,000 Starwood points (tripled to 450,000) will put me well over the threshold for Marriott Lifetime Gold. Plus I'll have 100 nights or so in the Starwood program. Need some clarity on this from the forum.
Based on my experience, transferring in Starwood points do not count toward the existing lifetime points for lifetime status (or I'd already be done).
I believe transferring in Ultimate Rewards points would get me over the limit and am curious what folks think? In my case, I probably would *not* qualify for the new Lifetime Platinum because I'm pretty sure I'm multiple years short of being at 50 nights/year.
Apr 16, 2018, 5:32 pm
#2714
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: PHL, NYC
Programs: AA PLT, DL SLV, UA SLV, MR LTT, HH DIA
Posts: 10,065
And, if upgrades matter, Plat just fell behind the pecking order. "I'm sorry sir, we have 85 Platinum Premiere guests staying with us tonight, there are no upgrades available"
Apr 16, 2018, 5:39 pm
#2715
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1P-1MM, Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 3,930
I guess I'm not clear how they will count elite status years looking backwards. For those who have MR lifetime status, they'll get the same status in the new program based on the night levels and not the status level names.
Old Marriott Gold = New Marriott Plat (50 nights)
Old Marriott Plat = New Marriott Plat Premier (75 nights)
Will this be the case for lifetime status under the new rules based on the old account history?
For new LT Plat (50 night) status, will they count the number of past years I have had 50 night (old Gold) status, or the number of past years I have had old Plat (75 night) status?
Old Marriott Gold = New Marriott Plat (50 nights)
Old Marriott Plat = New Marriott Plat Premier (75 nights)
Will this be the case for lifetime status under the new rules based on the old account history?
For new LT Plat (50 night) status, will they count the number of past years I have had 50 night (old Gold) status, or the number of past years I have had old Plat (75 night) status?
I'm in a similar situation (similar nights, closer on points).
Based on my experience, transferring in Starwood points do not count toward the existing lifetime points for lifetime status (or I'd already be done).
I believe transferring in Ultimate Rewards points would get me over the limit and am curious what folks think? In my case, I probably would *not* qualify for the new Lifetime Platinum because I'm pretty sure I'm multiple years short of being at 50 nights/year.
Based on my experience, transferring in Starwood points do not count toward the existing lifetime points for lifetime status (or I'd already be done).
I believe transferring in Ultimate Rewards points would get me over the limit and am curious what folks think? In my case, I probably would *not* qualify for the new Lifetime Platinum because I'm pretty sure I'm multiple years short of being at 50 nights/year.