Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
May 16, 2017, 6:48 pm
#2176
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 65
You seem to be confusing requirements with benefits.
Requirements are what you need to earn lifetime status. Benefits are what the status gives.
The current Marriott Lifetime Gold requirements are 500 lifetime nights plus 1.6 million lifetime points. Lounge access is a Gold benefit, not a Lifetime Gold requirement.
It's much more likely that the requirements will change than than that the benefits will change. It would not be competitive for Marriott to continue to require 50 nights for a status which gives no lounge access, when SPG did the same at 50 nights. The SPG status that SPG calls "Gold" is much closer to Marriott Silver than to Marriott Gold.
However, SPG's lifetime status requirements do not involve points at all, only nights and years.
So it's not lounge status that you should be worried about, but the possibility that if you wait you might not need any lifetime points at all (and thus any UR points transferred now might be a "waste" if you didn't need the points for stays, just for lifetime status, and if you didn't need lifetime status now, just later).
So I agree with hhoope01 that you should wait to see what happens. If it turns out they'll get rid of the points requirements but add a years requirement which you're even further away from, you should have time to transfer those UR points (assuming you haven't used them for something else) at that time. But if it turns out that they'll get rid of (or reduce) the points requirement and not add any new requirements you haven't met already, then you won't ever need to use your UR points for this.
Requirements are what you need to earn lifetime status. Benefits are what the status gives.
The current Marriott Lifetime Gold requirements are 500 lifetime nights plus 1.6 million lifetime points. Lounge access is a Gold benefit, not a Lifetime Gold requirement.
It's much more likely that the requirements will change than than that the benefits will change. It would not be competitive for Marriott to continue to require 50 nights for a status which gives no lounge access, when SPG did the same at 50 nights. The SPG status that SPG calls "Gold" is much closer to Marriott Silver than to Marriott Gold.
However, SPG's lifetime status requirements do not involve points at all, only nights and years.
So it's not lounge status that you should be worried about, but the possibility that if you wait you might not need any lifetime points at all (and thus any UR points transferred now might be a "waste" if you didn't need the points for stays, just for lifetime status, and if you didn't need lifetime status now, just later).
So I agree with hhoope01 that you should wait to see what happens. If it turns out they'll get rid of the points requirements but add a years requirement which you're even further away from, you should have time to transfer those UR points (assuming you haven't used them for something else) at that time. But if it turns out that they'll get rid of (or reduce) the points requirement and not add any new requirements you haven't met already, then you won't ever need to use your UR points for this.
May 18, 2017, 6:01 am
#2177
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Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
In either case, if it turns out in less than a year that you don't need lifetime points any more, then having earned them on a low-value credit card vs having transferred them from UR will both have been equally "a waste"?So the main idea in "wait" is don't change your behavior while waiting!
I don't use my Marriott card anywhere other than Marriott family properties, except overseas (because not all my other cards have 0% forex) I've used it for restaurants because it earns extra points there.
The earning from that credit card (on everyday purchases) is so slow, that unless you have a gigantic amount of spend (way more than most people who aren't in business for themselves), you're not going to earn enough to make much of a dent. The 1 night from $3k of purchases is going to be way more significant than the 3000 points, but you don't nights, you only need points, right?
May 18, 2017, 6:06 am
#2178
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 65
Well, how is that any different from transferring UR? In either case, if it turns out in less than a year that you don't need lifetime points any more, then having earned them on a low-value credit card vs having transferred them from UR will both have been equally "a waste"?
So the main idea in "wait" is don't change your behavior while waiting!
I don't use my Marriott card anywhere other than Marriott family properties, except overseas (because not all my other cards have 0% forex) I've used it for restaurants because it earns extra points there.
The earning from that credit card (on everyday purchases) is so slow, that unless you have a gigantic amount of spend (way more than most people who aren't in business for themselves), you're not going to earn enough to make much of a dent. The 1 night from $3k of purchases is going to be way more significant than the 3000 points, but you don't nights, you only need points, right?
In either case, if it turns out in less than a year that you don't need lifetime points any more, then having earned them on a low-value credit card vs having transferred them from UR will both have been equally "a waste"?So the main idea in "wait" is don't change your behavior while waiting!
I don't use my Marriott card anywhere other than Marriott family properties, except overseas (because not all my other cards have 0% forex) I've used it for restaurants because it earns extra points there.
The earning from that credit card (on everyday purchases) is so slow, that unless you have a gigantic amount of spend (way more than most people who aren't in business for themselves), you're not going to earn enough to make much of a dent. The 1 night from $3k of purchases is going to be way more significant than the 3000 points, but you don't nights, you only need points, right?
Thanks for talking me out of this, i needed the extra voice besides my own.
May 18, 2017, 9:14 am
#2179
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
Apologies if this has been covered, but have points converted from SPG via linked account increased the lifetime point counter? Conversely do points transferred out decrease the counter?
I'm guessing that SPG points aren't counting towards lifetime, because unless they also decreased on transfer out, you could transfer in and out to bump up your lifetime points.
I ask because my wife has a large amount of SPG points from credit card promotions which I plan to do family transfer to my SPG account and then transfer to my Marriott account (where I have a bunch of points from Marriott credit card promotions, too)
I'm guessing that SPG points aren't counting towards lifetime, because unless they also decreased on transfer out, you could transfer in and out to bump up your lifetime points.
I ask because my wife has a large amount of SPG points from credit card promotions which I plan to do family transfer to my SPG account and then transfer to my Marriott account (where I have a bunch of points from Marriott credit card promotions, too)
May 18, 2017, 9:23 am
#2180
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 65
Points from SPG do not count. Rewards line confirmed to me when the transfer option became available.
May 18, 2017, 9:25 am
#2181
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: GEG
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Lifetime SkyClub, AS MVP
Posts: 2,410
No and No.
Although it has been anecdotally noted that if your wife were to convert her SPG points to a Marriott account in her name, and then transfer them over to your Marriott account (presumably subject to a fee unless she is a Gold or Platinum elite), then her Marriott point lifetime counter would go down on the transfer and your Marriott point lifetime counter would go up.
I believe there are limits as to the amount of points that can be transferred between Marriott accounts (unless there's a pending award) --- you might wish to confirm.
Although it has been anecdotally noted that if your wife were to convert her SPG points to a Marriott account in her name, and then transfer them over to your Marriott account (presumably subject to a fee unless she is a Gold or Platinum elite), then her Marriott point lifetime counter would go down on the transfer and your Marriott point lifetime counter would go up.
I believe there are limits as to the amount of points that can be transferred between Marriott accounts (unless there's a pending award) --- you might wish to confirm.
May 18, 2017, 11:56 am
#2182
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
No and No.
Although it has been anecdotally noted that if your wife were to convert her SPG points to a Marriott account in her name, and then transfer them over to your Marriott account (presumably subject to a fee unless she is a Gold or Platinum elite), then her Marriott point lifetime counter would go down on the transfer and your Marriott point lifetime counter would go up.
I believe there are limits as to the amount of points that can be transferred between Marriott accounts (unless there's a pending award) --- you might wish to confirm.
Although it has been anecdotally noted that if your wife were to convert her SPG points to a Marriott account in her name, and then transfer them over to your Marriott account (presumably subject to a fee unless she is a Gold or Platinum elite), then her Marriott point lifetime counter would go down on the transfer and your Marriott point lifetime counter would go up.
I believe there are limits as to the amount of points that can be transferred between Marriott accounts (unless there's a pending award) --- you might wish to confirm.
May 21, 2017, 7:36 am
#2183
Join Date: Dec 2003
Programs: AA Plat Pro, United Silver, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 1,120
Thanks for the options. Since SPG makes it easy to transfer between folks with the same address with no fee, I was going that route. The Marriott point sharing FAQ say up to 50k points for $10 -- this will be more than 50k points so won't work at first glance. But I have to consider if a 50k point bump to my lifetime status is worth $10 (with the rest having to go through the SPG door)
If she doesn't currently have status, is there a way she can easily get it? For example, Amex platinum card = SPG Gold = Marriott Gold.
May 21, 2017, 8:43 am
#2184
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,519
Thanks for the options. Since SPG makes it easy to transfer between folks with the same address with no fee, I was going that route. The Marriott point sharing FAQ say up to 50k points for $10 -- this will be more than 50k points so won't work at first glance. But I have to consider if a 50k point bump to my lifetime status is worth $10 (with the rest having to go through the SPG door)
If she doesn't currently have status, is there a way she can easily get it? For example, Amex platinum card = SPG Gold = Marriott Gold.
May 22, 2017, 5:06 am
#2185
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Dallas, TX, USA, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium, AA Platinum
Posts: 38
I've just hit Marriott Lifetime Platinum. Given that and the SPG/Marriott merger, I'm interested in other people's thinking, and strategy, for the future. Obviously I no longer need to chase Marriott nights each year to retain status, and will presumably retain Platinum for both Marriott and SPG until they fully merge.
For my future hotel needs, options might be:
1) Stay where I like within the Marriott/SPG envelope, enjoy all the benefits, collecting Platinum bonuses etc, and trying to hit whatever periodic bonuses arise just to bank points for future use.
2) Build up my SPG stays, in case the merger is some weird averaging of the Marriott and SPG status.
3) Status match somewhere, I guess realistically Hilton, and start building status there.
4) Stretch out, stay wherever I want, including cute little non-chains hotels, knowing I can always run to the Marriott/SPG mothership whenever I need to.
5) Worry that Marriott might introduce an uberPlatinum level in the future and keep mindlessly accumulating nights and points just in case.....
I can't be the only one in this place - what do others think?
TM
For my future hotel needs, options might be:
1) Stay where I like within the Marriott/SPG envelope, enjoy all the benefits, collecting Platinum bonuses etc, and trying to hit whatever periodic bonuses arise just to bank points for future use.
2) Build up my SPG stays, in case the merger is some weird averaging of the Marriott and SPG status.
3) Status match somewhere, I guess realistically Hilton, and start building status there.
4) Stretch out, stay wherever I want, including cute little non-chains hotels, knowing I can always run to the Marriott/SPG mothership whenever I need to.
5) Worry that Marriott might introduce an uberPlatinum level in the future and keep mindlessly accumulating nights and points just in case.....
I can't be the only one in this place - what do others think?
TM
May 22, 2017, 8:53 am
#2186
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
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Posts: 2,820
I'm almost to Lifetime Platinum and I've been thinking the same thing. I'm thinking a combination of 1, 4 and 5. #3 might not be bad to test the waters somewhere else as well.
May 22, 2017, 11:44 am
#2187
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Any future 2000-night uber-platinum would lose priority to any future 3000-night ultra-uber-platinum.
May 22, 2017, 12:48 pm
#2188
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
May 22, 2017, 1:27 pm
#2189
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Mesilla, NM
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Posts: 2,714
May 22, 2017, 1:46 pm
#2190
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
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Posts: 2,820